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Starship Supreme	08-May-2020 12:34        Starship About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	FrancisLim      ( Date: 08-May-2020 12:04) Posted: " (a) it appears that it is neither the developer nor the manufacturer, (b) it is also not an exclusive agent in most countries, and (c) its distributors may be able to distribute similar products produced by competitors." These are Red Flags
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wokiechewbacca Member	08-May-2020 12:16        wokiechewbacca About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	One month old news is a century by stock market standards, please try harder than this. FrancisLim      ( Date: 08-May-2020 12:00) Posted: 1 April announcement - ceased to be substantial shareholders. Disclosure of Interest/ Changes in Interest of Substantial Shareholder(s)/ Unitholder(s)::Cease to be a Substantial Shareholder - BV Healthcare II Pte. Ltd. owned by MOF, Singapore
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wokiechewbacca Member	08-May-2020 12:15        wokiechewbacca About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Those barking here Everyday for so Long I have yet seen any produce any clear independent evidence that this co is shit, rather I see them trying to sway the sentiment to their vested interests based on their own flawed opinion soonsoonhuat      ( Date: 08-May-2020 11:49) Posted: if u think bios is worth 20 cts, pls be man enough to short it down to that levels leh, dunt everyday kpkb here non stop as if those vested are morons to cling on to a sinking ship. i think its better than your chasen (for which u claimed to be a ssh wor), hahahahahaa, prop traders kee lan. WL123456      ( Date: 27-Apr-2020 13:40) Posted: I agree on this point. Actually sell first since it?s above the average $0.20 before the run up and then keep the cash and see how is the best policy. If the company is really good, can come back and throw money in later. Right now, after being exposed by sgx ( if you look at the Q and A by sgx, you know the questions are prepared to exposed biolidics and Ho Ching, it?s going to be tough from now onwards until they achieve significant sales to prove their critics wrong. Hence, the reason why I say the share price will just slowly drift south.) and those who msg me about the potential TP I had I mind, it will be around $0.20 before the run up. You can check the charts. Good luck and take care
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FrancisLim Elite	08-May-2020 12:04        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	" (a) it appears that it is neither the developer nor the manufacturer, (b) it is also not an exclusive agent in most countries, and (c) its distributors may be able to distribute similar products produced by competitors." These are Red Flags
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ST3-trading Senior	08-May-2020 12:01        ST3-trading About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No one got news why so many shares acculmated for both bio n clear bridge . ? all waiting for news
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donnycheh Member	08-May-2020 12:01        donnycheh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Its reasonable to say that the true profitability is unknown since test kit prices depends largely on the scale of production as well accounting for distribution agents taking a cut in the profit. That might explain the range in prices. If I' m selling test kits in India, I wouldn' t price it at 25 USD if I want to stay competitive... I think the real reason why antibody test kit sales are not flying off the shelves yet is because the world hasn' t really figured out how to make sense of it yet. But there is still alot of potential in this. We don' t need to be a market leader, since every country needs testing. 1% of the world buys from Bio, its already Billions in sales.. think about that. FrancisLim      ( Date: 08-May-2020 11:37) Posted: Extract from Governance for Stakeholders by Prof Mak   " One thing that has not been disclosed so far by Biolidics are revenues and profits that can be expected from these test kits. Based on searches I have done, I have seen prices mentioned in online marketplaces and news media reports that are as low as about S$4.50 each, and reports that a test administered at point of care may be US$25 per test. The fact is that we just don&rsquo t know if these test kits will be profitable given the highly competitive market and the fact that Biolidics is just one player in a COVID-19 rapid test kit value chain where (a) it appears that it is neither the developer nor the manufacturer, (b) it is also not an exclusive agent in most countries, and (c) its distributors may be able to distribute similar products produced by competitors."
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FrancisLim Elite	08-May-2020 12:00        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1 April announcement - ceased to be substantial shareholders. Disclosure of Interest/ Changes in Interest of Substantial Shareholder(s)/ Unitholder(s)::Cease to be a Substantial Shareholder - BV Healthcare II Pte. Ltd. owned by MOF, Singapore
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soonsoonhuat Veteran	08-May-2020 11:49        soonsoonhuat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if u think bios is worth 20 cts, pls be man enough to short it down to that levels leh, dunt everyday kpkb here non stop as if those vested are morons to cling on to a sinking ship. i think its better than your chasen (for which u claimed to be a ssh wor), hahahahahaa, prop traders kee lan. WL123456      ( Date: 27-Apr-2020 13:40) Posted: I agree on this point. Actually sell first since it?s above the average $0.20 before the run up and then keep the cash and see how is the best policy. If the company is really good, can come back and throw money in later. Right now, after being exposed by sgx ( if you look at the Q and A by sgx, you know the questions are prepared to exposed biolidics and Ho Ching, it?s going to be tough from now onwards until they achieve significant sales to prove their critics wrong. Hence, the reason why I say the share price will just slowly drift south.) and those who msg me about the potential TP I had I mind, it will be around $0.20 before the run up. You can check the charts. Good luck and take care. sbscap      ( Date: 27-Apr-2020 11:29) Posted: For the bulls out there, please pause and assume the bears' case for a while and see if the devil' s advocate has merits. This company' s major shareholder is another listed company, Clearbridge. I don' t see any scientific brain(s) holding a significant stake in Biolidics. The only technically brainy person is some smart PhD woman who has no significant stake. The other holders are PE firms and other vultures and SEED (and we all know how good Temasek/GIC/whatever companies are in investing). And then there are historic accounting losses in Biolidics - as well as Clearbridge. Clearbridge lost more than $10m per year. Losses at Biolidics are not small too. This so-called game-changer product has questions such as competition, the reputation of its US distributors, etc. The share price sharp drop is also of concern that the move is not sustainable. Then we all know, just like SARS, this COVID-19 will one day be history. Then what? With so many uncertainties, for the bulls, maybe just buy a bit and leave the company to sort out the future. One can always buy later as profitable Singapore companies are usually trading at good discounts.
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FrancisLim Elite	08-May-2020 11:37        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Extract from Governance for Stakeholders by Prof Mak   " One thing that has not been disclosed so far by Biolidics are revenues and profits that can be expected from these test kits. Based on searches I have done, I have seen prices mentioned in online marketplaces and news media reports that are as low as about S$4.50 each, and reports that a test administered at point of care may be US$25 per test. The fact is that we just don&rsquo t know if these test kits will be profitable given the highly competitive market and the fact that Biolidics is just one player in a COVID-19 rapid test kit value chain where (a) it appears that it is neither the developer nor the manufacturer, (b) it is also not an exclusive agent in most countries, and (c) its distributors may be able to distribute similar products produced by competitors."
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wokiechewbacca Member	08-May-2020 11:17        wokiechewbacca About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	May I know what queries by SGX had uncovered any rot in Bio? In fact if memory serves me well they managed to address quite a few key clarifications. If there are bad results of the testing, I think HSA would have withdrawn their approval. The tests were conducted with NUH and NCID since 6april. Jeremy has mentioned it?s to confirm the results are consistent with what the China side reported, and can be uniformly applied to other juridictions. The studies were also submitted for authority approval. (From phillip research) Why would the co continue to provide any figures or projections, when sgx queries them on this and caused the trading halt in the first place? Bio was questioned on whether ?director?s comment of 2m kits? were to be taken as projection, by which the co had clarified it?s ?in anticipation? of orders and not a projection. FrancisLim      ( Date: 08-May-2020 11:05) Posted: Should read the articles by Mak and various queries by SGX. Also, what the analysis of the results of the testing? What exactly is the co' s role in the rapid test - does it has exclusive distribution rights?  seem not so as shown in the article. Why the co is unable to provide a financial projection on sales -at least a conservative figure or lowest range? I tend to agree on WL 123456 below. WL123456      ( Date: 29-Apr-2020 18:54) Posted: Ok let?s wait for the the financial figures before we roll again. If the figures are fantastic, I am sure you have justify your valuations and then it?s not too late for others to buy in at $0.40-$0.50c. If not, then I am right about the company in overstating their projections. Let?s wait for the figures to be out. Fair to everyone. Right now to me, still worth $0.20. If profit margin is $0.20c per share, then it?s worth $.40. I believe some will even pay $0.50 or $0.60 if they earnings per share is $0.20.
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guards80 Supreme	08-May-2020 11:14        guards80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This time should be testing 500 guards80      ( Date: 08-May-2020 11:11) Posted: Good buy again at 455
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guards80 Supreme	08-May-2020 11:11        guards80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good buy again at 455
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Player99 Member	08-May-2020 11:10        Player99 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can consider fsm too, 0.08% genting^2      ( Date: 08-May-2020 09:48) Posted: Forget POEMS because it remains restricted. Use other platforms to buy/sell..    Investment Brokerage Firm Trading Fee (up to $50K) Minimum Fee Custodian or CDP? SAXO Markets 0.08% $10 Custodian DBS Vickers Cash Upfront  (prepaid, buy only) 0.12% $10 CDP Maybank Kim Eng  (prepaid) 0.12% $10 Custodian Phillip Securities (POEMS)  (prepaid) 0.12% $10 Custodian UOB KayHian  (prepaid) 0.12% $10 Custodian CGS-CIMB Securities  (prepaid) 0.18% $18 Custodian Standard Chartered 0.2% $10 Custodian Citibank 0.25% $28 CDP CGS-CIMB Securities 0.275% $25 CDP KGI Securities  (formerly AmFraser) 0.275% $25 CDP Maybank Kim Eng 0.275%  $25 CDP OCBC Securities 0.275% $25 CDP RHB Securities  (formerly DMG) 0.275% $25 CDP UOB KayHian 0.275% $25 CDP DBS Vickers 0.28% $25 CDP
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wokiechewbacca Member	08-May-2020 11:09        wokiechewbacca About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This goes to show, those that want this stock to crash have more inherent bias than those who want it to do well lol. I didn?t see any supporters making such grossly inaccurate statements here so far. Don?t mention the source credibility, but what does that say about your own credibility as well. newbieliu      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:44) Posted: All the things mentioned already there published clearly . He seems try to send something that we have read repeatedly. Such whistleblowing article is not updated and partially inaccurate-- hence misleading. Fluffyclouds      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:20) Posted: Precisely. Say with support evidence. Obviously they dont know the product well then use scare tactic on cb.
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FrancisLim Elite	08-May-2020 11:05        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Should read the articles by Mak and various queries by SGX. Also, what the analysis of the results of the testing? What exactly is the co' s role in the rapid test - does it has exclusive distribution rights?  seem not so as shown in the article. Why the co is unable to provide a financial projection on sales -at least a conservative figure or lowest range? I tend to agree on WL 123456 below. WL123456      ( Date: 29-Apr-2020 18:54) Posted: Ok let?s wait for the the financial figures before we roll again. If the figures are fantastic, I am sure you have justify your valuations and then it?s not too late for others to buy in at $0.40-$0.50c. If not, then I am right about the company in overstating their projections. Let?s wait for the figures to be out. Fair to everyone. Right now to me, still worth $0.20. If profit margin is $0.20c per share, then it?s worth $.40. I believe some will even pay $0.50 or $0.60 if they earnings per share is $0.20. t0RNAD0      ( Date: 29-Apr-2020 16:05) Posted: Think before this deal, with no products the share price is around 20 cents. Now at least they have a product to resell. Hence my personal opinion is the price range of 40-50 is a true reflection of the company. Of course my valuation could be wrong , but you really over bash too much. If you are on a personal crusade against listed companies with bad financials, there are targets out there more worthy of your fight, like Tesla & Netflix.
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98mich98 Master	08-May-2020 11:03        98mich98 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope the shortist get squezz one big time😁
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UncoolChip5 Senior	08-May-2020 11:00        UncoolChip5 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When will profit be out? DooDoo      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:55) Posted: Lol in my opinion i think you shorted here trying to make people sell to minimise your loss but don?t think stock will drop anytime soon. Will only go up, once profit result release it will shoot up even more. As always do your own decision. Happy trading UncoolChip5      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:49) Posted: Starting to see distribution. Sell off if you're in profits, can buy back later.
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DooDoo Senior	08-May-2020 10:55        DooDoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol in my opinion i think you shorted here trying to make people sell to minimise your loss but don?t think stock will drop anytime soon. Will only go up, once profit result release it will shoot up even more. As always do your own decision. Happy trading UncoolChip5      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:49) Posted: Starting to see distribution. Sell off if you're in profits, can buy back later.
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UncoolChip5 Senior	08-May-2020 10:49        UncoolChip5 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Starting to see distribution. Sell off if you're in profits, can buy back later.
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newbieliu Elite	08-May-2020 10:44        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All the things mentioned already there published clearly . He seems try to send something that we have read repeatedly. Such whistleblowing article is not updated and partially inaccurate-- hence misleading. Fluffyclouds      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:20) Posted: Precisely. Say with support evidence. Obviously they dont know the product well then use scare tactic on cb. wokiechewbacca      ( Date: 08-May-2020 10:18) Posted: ? i was watching CNN a couple of days ago and there was an interview with the CEO of Roche, the giant pharma company. He was talking about the Covid-19 tests based on blood draw that they are producing ? the plan was to have 100 million tests by the end of the year. He also mentioned how such tests are more accurate than finger prick tests, which are what the rapid test kits are.? Looks like Prof Mak needs to get his facts straight, not all rapid test kits are finger prick Biolidics? kits are Rapid test (10min) but definitely not finger prick. Many have been repeating it on this forum(1 just yesterday) it?s also available on bio?s site. Can bio sue him for defamation? This is just one of the inaccuracies of his report, if you have been following closely you can simply do some cross referencing. Such irresponsible ?research? from a man that so many looks up to to protect their investments! Also says a lot about those who share such documents for their own agendas, please make sure your source is solid or you end up looking like a clown :
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