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earlybird14 Supreme	30-Nov-2015 10:11        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Shake shake shake, day chart slowly out from overbought liao woo... 7dec, panicking getting worse day by day for longists since the longer cma drag, the worse is it, at the end, no deal, nol back to 90 loh. Jialat jialat. earlybird14      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 06:47) Posted: These terminals, Alphaliner believes, are APL?s most attractive assets. However, the largest of these ? the Global Gateway South terminal in Los Angeles (Berths 302-305) ? requires significant capital investment to renovate the facility that was opened in 1997. APL has a 30-year lease agreement at the Los Angeles facility, while earlier giving up leases at its terminals in Oakland (2013) and Seattle (2014). Wah the port assets also very attractive and hidden value woo... (Claimed by expert here too) hehehe earlybird14      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 06:45) Posted: http://www.joc.com/maritime-news/container-lines/apl/finding-buyer-nol-will-not-be-easy-alphaliner-says_20151110.html APL also lacks attractive assets that would attract a premium, Alphaliner said. Its owned vessel fleet, comprising 57 ships with a total capacity of 472,000 TEUs, is valued at between $3 to 3.5 billion based on the analyst?s estimates, compared to a book value of $4.7 billion at the end of 2014. Really a lot 'hidden' assets loh (claimed bu expert here). 3.5 bil vs 4.7 bil stated by joc. But "expert" in this thread said nol assets worth more. Hahahaha!!!!
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DONTBEEVIL Veteran	30-Nov-2015 10:10        DONTBEEVIL About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Have Patience and Discipline"
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Just my opinion 1. NOL has been in overbought situation and long overdue for correction. So if the takeover price is unknown yet, it is quite sensible for price to correct now. There is where TA can HELP to read the movement. That was the reason why I sold 50% of my holding last friday becaouse I do not realy see any strong support at 1.18 or 1.17 (there are technical support but not strong) 2. If the takeover price is much lower than the current price, do you think TH or NOL will not come out and warn the public? Or you think they will allow the market to continue pushing up the price? 3.   So if the takeover price is at this level. (There is a possibility since the price is hovering around this level.) So if you have not bought, do you want to buy at a risk that the price will not move up anymore. If you already holding it, then selling now or not doesn' t make much different anyway. (IMO Taking profit is always good no matter what will happen later because money already in pocket) 4. For those who strongly believe that the price will be higher, then just wait for 7 decemember. I am betting on thise with my 50% holdings. Will continue to monitor the price movement. All the above is just my own opinion. Good luck
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mrwise Supreme	30-Nov-2015 09:30        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Shortist coming in.... Haha...gd... U will start crying soon...
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sengsk Elite	30-Nov-2015 09:02        sengsk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Confuse ? JUST sell 50% of it and enjoy with the profit. speechless      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 08:57) Posted: So confused... dunno whether to sell now or wait till dec 7 -_-
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speechless Member	30-Nov-2015 08:57        speechless About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So confused... dunno whether to sell now or wait till dec 7 -_-
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earlybird14 Supreme	30-Nov-2015 06:47        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	These terminals, Alphaliner believes, are APL?s most attractive assets. However, the largest of these ? the Global Gateway South terminal in Los Angeles (Berths 302-305) ? requires significant capital investment to renovate the facility that was opened in 1997. APL has a 30-year lease agreement at the Los Angeles facility, while earlier giving up leases at its terminals in Oakland (2013) and Seattle (2014). Wah the port assets also very attractive and hidden value woo... (Claimed by expert here too) hehehe earlybird14      ( Date: 30-Nov-2015 06:45) Posted: http://www.joc.com/maritime-news/container-lines/apl/finding-buyer-nol-will-not-be-easy-alphaliner-says_20151110.html APL also lacks attractive assets that would attract a premium, Alphaliner said. Its owned vessel fleet, comprising 57 ships with a total capacity of 472,000 TEUs, is valued at between $3 to 3.5 billion based on the analyst?s estimates, compared to a book value of $4.7 billion at the end of 2014. Really a lot 'hidden' assets loh (claimed bu expert here). 3.5 bil vs 4.7 bil stated by joc. But "expert" in this thread said nol assets worth more. Hahahaha!!!!
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earlybird14 Supreme	30-Nov-2015 06:45        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.joc.com/maritime-news/container-lines/apl/finding-buyer-nol-will-not-be-easy-alphaliner-says_20151110.html APL also lacks attractive assets that would attract a premium, Alphaliner said. Its owned vessel fleet, comprising 57 ships with a total capacity of 472,000 TEUs, is valued at between $3 to 3.5 billion based on the analyst?s estimates, compared to a book value of $4.7 billion at the end of 2014. Really a lot 'hidden' assets loh (claimed bu expert here). 3.5 bil vs 4.7 bil stated by joc. But "expert" in this thread said nol assets worth more. Hahahaha!!!!
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mrwise Supreme	30-Nov-2015 01:12        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Speculation is part of playing shares. Play n invest wisely.... Wait patiently for fruits to come... Longist will win finally....
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famouspinky Supreme	30-Nov-2015 01:07        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ur username is good DONTBEEVIL      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 23:57) Posted: 03/11/2015 0.97 1.00 +0.03 (3.09%) HOLD DBS Vickers   02/11/2015 0.965 0.96 -0.005 (0.52%) HOLD OCBC   02/11/2015 0.965 1.16 +0.195 (20.21%) BUY Deutsche Bank   02/11/2015 0.965 0.95 -0.015 (1.55%) HOLD CIMB I would also like to talk about these price targets made by different banks/financail houses. Obviously, these figures never put into consideration the " take over" effect (please read the reports if they ever mention anything about takeover) . All based on fundamental. They should give an indication of the price when there is no closed deal. (it becomes irrelent if there is a take over talk) Personally, they are hardly accurate. For example: the average target price for KepCorp is $8.29
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famouspinky Supreme	30-Nov-2015 00:40        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We shall see. earlybird14      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:41) Posted: No start? Hahaha, then you wait till after 7 dec loh. famouspinky      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:31) Posted: Speculation has not started
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famouspinky Supreme	30-Nov-2015 00:01        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is not impt. DONTBEEVIL      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 23:57) Posted: 03/11/2015 0.97 1.00 +0.03 (3.09%) HOLD DBS Vickers   02/11/2015 0.965 0.96 -0.005 (0.52%) HOLD OCBC   02/11/2015 0.965 1.16 +0.195 (20.21%) BUY Deutsche Bank   02/11/2015 0.965 0.95 -0.015 (1.55%) HOLD CIMB I would also like to talk about these price targets made by different banks/financail houses. Obviously, these figures never put into consideration the " take over" effect (please read the reports if they ever mention anything about takeover) . All based on fundamental. They should give an indication of the price when there is no closed deal. (it becomes irrelent if there is a take over talk) Personally, they are hardly accurate. For example: the average target price for KepCorp is $8.29
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DONTBEEVIL Veteran	29-Nov-2015 23:57        DONTBEEVIL About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Have Patience and Discipline"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	03/11/2015 0.97 1.00 +0.03 (3.09%) HOLD DBS Vickers   02/11/2015 0.965 0.96 -0.005 (0.52%) HOLD OCBC   02/11/2015 0.965 1.16 +0.195 (20.21%) BUY Deutsche Bank   02/11/2015 0.965 0.95 -0.015 (1.55%) HOLD CIMB I would also like to talk about these price targets made by different banks/financail houses. Obviously, these figures never put into consideration the " take over" effect (please read the reports if they ever mention anything about takeover) . All based on fundamental. They should give an indication of the price when there is no closed deal. (it becomes irrelent if there is a take over talk) Personally, they are hardly accurate. For example: the average target price for KepCorp is $8.29
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famouspinky Supreme	29-Nov-2015 23:40        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Yup plenty outside too. Most will curse and swear cos these people want fast money. Day trade? Challenging. sgng123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 23:10) Posted: wow so many peep lose money on NOL and do their venting in forum lol. That why earlier i mention don play with NOL, shit don behave like normal stock. IT climb when u expect it to die and go down fast when u expect it to rise, how to trade. THe real winner is those who can hold and got patience. Currently just watch from sideline and enjoy the forum venting due to losses from wrong decision lol. IT very obvious some lose big time in NOL else thee would bnot be so much venting.
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sgng123 Supreme	29-Nov-2015 23:10        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	wow so many peep lose money on NOL and do their venting in forum lol. That why earlier i mention don play with NOL, shit don behave like normal stock. IT climb when u expect it to die and go down fast when u expect it to rise, how to trade. THe real winner is those who can hold and got patience. Currently just watch from sideline and enjoy the forum venting due to losses from wrong decision lol. IT very obvious some lose big time in NOL else thee would bnot be so much venting.
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mrbean249 Senior	29-Nov-2015 23:06        mrbean249 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Say no position but everyday spend so much time want to talk until got dragon got phoenix come out. Doesnt match isnt it?
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mrbean249 Senior	29-Nov-2015 23:04        mrbean249 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	To him only shortist views is ok, when longists post views he will shoot down. When longist shoot down his views it becomes not ok, say it is only a cheerleading forum and all that jiao wei. What a hypocrite DONTBEEVIL      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:58) Posted: Why are you so sensitive to my User name? Nobody else talk about it except you?!!! earlybird14      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:28) Posted: So what, this doesn't mean you can be evil to speculate higher and higher to attract other to pay for your profit. Don't build your happiness on other pain. Don't be evil? So sarcastic on your username
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DONTBEEVIL Veteran	29-Nov-2015 22:58        DONTBEEVIL About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Have Patience and Discipline"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why are you so sensitive to my User name? Nobody else talk about it except you?!!! earlybird14      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:28) Posted: So what, this doesn't mean you can be evil to speculate higher and higher to attract other to pay for your profit. Don't build your happiness on other pain. Don't be evil? So sarcastic on your username. DONTBEEVIL      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:12) Posted: When there is a industrial down turn, there were M& A. There is why Singaproe left with OCBC, DBS & UOB. and after consolidation, they become stronger. Why in EB' s analysis, effect of " consolidation" has never been considered?  Straight away it can be said, it is a biased analysis. No matter how impressive it seems, if it is not a thorough analysis where all aspects/points have to be considered. So it is a bad arguement. Likewise, all the other arguements are also biased to a certain extend. So we shall put all these informations together and make our own choice.  Once again, for those who are making money at current price, they read the market correctly and they are the winners. Those who are not making money are lossers. As simple as that.  Good luck everybody.
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mrbean249 Senior	29-Nov-2015 22:57        mrbean249 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	He got give buy call meh?? Just discuss only what. Which part is evil i cannot sense. Anyway dont give the bird crap on happiness is others pain. In the market, one persons gain is another persons loss. Not a hypocrite like you who choose to ignore this simple logic. earlybird14      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:28) Posted: So what, this doesn't mean you can be evil to speculate higher and higher to attract other to pay for your profit. Don't build your happiness on other pain. Don't be evil? So sarcastic on your username. DONTBEEVIL      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:12) Posted: When there is a industrial down turn, there were M& A. There is why Singaproe left with OCBC, DBS & UOB. and after consolidation, they become stronger. Why in EB' s analysis, effect of " consolidation" has never been considered?  Straight away it can be said, it is a biased analysis. No matter how impressive it seems, if it is not a thorough analysis where all aspects/points have to be considered. So it is a bad arguement. Likewise, all the other arguements are also biased to a certain extend. So we shall put all these informations together and make our own choice.  Once again, for those who are making money at current price, they read the market correctly and they are the winners. Those who are not making money are lossers. As simple as that.  Good luck everybody.
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DONTBEEVIL Veteran	29-Nov-2015 22:55        DONTBEEVIL About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "Have Patience and Discipline"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Speculation is Evil? Then nobody should play share Don' t tell me you have not been speculating it to be lower and shorted twice, failed twice.  If ppl here can shout to make the price higher, then everybody should shout more, so everyday up. ridiculous argument!! The price has been kept moving up even though STI had been dropping badly, it shows that the market value NOL higher. We can' t do anything to the price. The bb/fund-managers/investors can. Speculators speculate by reading the market. Who are evil then? Those who are manipulating the price are. Those who distorted facts are.   earlybird14      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:28) Posted: So what, this doesn't mean you can be evil to speculate higher and higher to attract other to pay for your profit. Don't build your happiness on other pain. Don't be evil? So sarcastic on your username. DONTBEEVIL      ( Date: 29-Nov-2015 22:12) Posted: When there is a industrial down turn, there were M& A. There is why Singaproe left with OCBC, DBS & UOB. and after consolidation, they become stronger. Why in EB' s analysis, effect of " consolidation" has never been considered?  Straight away it can be said, it is a biased analysis. No matter how impressive it seems, if it is not a thorough analysis where all aspects/points have to be considered. So it is a bad arguement. Likewise, all the other arguements are also biased to a certain extend. So we shall put all these informations together and make our own choice.  Once again, for those who are making money at current price, they read the market correctly and they are the winners. Those who are not making money are lossers. As simple as that.  Good luck everybody.
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tortuga Member	29-Nov-2015 22:55        tortuga About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dec 7 can' t come soon enough, after Dec 8 all these sudden armchair shipping experts and M& A experts in this forum will fly off to feed on another carcass.....bunch of vultures.....
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