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Peter88 Senior	03-Dec-2020 20:15        Peter88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Worth taking a bet at this level for sure !
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 19:43        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	According to ar 2019. I never see 2020 reports yet... WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:41) Posted: Net cash company. WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:40) Posted: No it does not have any marketable securities. Only cash and f
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 19:41        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Net cash company. WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:40) Posted: No it does not have any marketable securities. Only cash and fd Peter88      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:27) Posted: Just read thru the AR of 2019 , the investments on the so-called security was not reflected in the current assets or non current assets in the BS ,  Is there such an assets at all
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 19:40        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No it does not have any marketable securities. Only cash and fd Peter88      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:27) Posted: Just read thru the AR of 2019 , the investments on the so-called security was not reflected in the current assets or non current assets in the BS ,  Is there such an assets at all ? WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:18) Posted: Well they should be paring down debt if they earned so much! Let me take a look. Sometimes the devil is in the details..
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Peter88 Senior	03-Dec-2020 19:27        Peter88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just read thru the AR of 2019 , the investments on the so-called security was not reflected in the current assets or non current assets in the BS ,  Is there such an assets at all ? WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:18) Posted: Well they should be paring down debt if they earned so much! Let me take a look. Sometimes the devil is in the details... Peter88      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:14) Posted: Many thanks WhereI , I just read their resuly end 30 June 2020 , the total borrowing stand at 10 Millions Riggit only ??? So little vs shareholder fund ??
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 19:22        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good for yzj. River stone may replace it in a year or two shadow      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:19) Posted: No changes to the constituents of the Straits Times Index (STI), following the December 2020 quarterly review announced today. The next review will take place in March 2021.YZJ still in STI30 blue chip !
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shadow Veteran	03-Dec-2020 19:19        shadow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No changes to the constituents of the Straits Times Index (STI), following the December 2020 quarterly review announced today. The next review will take place in March 2021.YZJ still in STI30 blue chip !
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 19:18        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well they should be paring down debt if they earned so much! Let me take a look. Sometimes the devil is in the details... Peter88      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:14) Posted: Many thanks WhereI , I just read their resuly end 30 June 2020 , the total borrowing stand at 10 Millions Riggit only ??? So little vs shareholder fund ??? WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:05) Posted: Cannot count like that one. I think it' s last price cb was about 370. So the shares were worth about 1.85 each then. The first day was more than 1.85 because the other half of the shares not floated out yet. investment securities are not cash. They are more like bonds and stocks that are marketable securities that can be converted to cash on a secondary market. If these were converted at the reported value, then top glove will have net cash. why in the world would river stone invest in bonds? Is it an investment company with lots of spare cash
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Peter88 Senior	03-Dec-2020 19:14        Peter88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Many thanks WhereI , I just read their resuly end 30 June 2020 , the total borrowing stand at 10 Millions Riggit only ??? So little vs shareholder fund ??? WhereI      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 19:05) Posted: Cannot count like that one. I think it' s last price cb was about 370. So the shares were worth about 1.85 each then. The first day was more than 1.85 because the other half of the shares not floated out yet. investment securities are not cash. They are more like bonds and stocks that are marketable securities that can be converted to cash on a secondary market. If these were converted at the reported value, then top glove will have net cash. why in the world would river stone invest in bonds? Is it an investment company with lots of spare cash? Peter88      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:56) Posted: Just curious : 1) 9 Nov. is the XD for the  one for one bonus , Price was 1.96 . Is this XD price from 3.92 ( Before XD price )  ? 2) A case in point: As at 1HFY20, Top Glove has cash and investment securities amounting to MYR348m and MYR1.45b respectively. It is not a net cash company with MYR1.52b of short- and long-term loans and borrowings.  This was mentioned in the analyst report by Ernest Lim https://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/943-2020/13762-riverstone-is-recent-32-decline-justified .  What is this statement ?  Riverstone also invest in bonds ? Hope some friend s here can help to enlighten , thanks. Veteran Posted: 03-Dec-2020 18:48
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 19:05        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cannot count like that one. I think it' s last price cb was about 370. So the shares were worth about 1.85 each then. The first day was more than 1.85 because the other half of the shares not floated out yet. investment securities are not cash. They are more like bonds and stocks that are marketable securities that can be converted to cash on a secondary market. If these were converted at the reported value, then top glove will have net cash. why in the world would river stone invest in bonds? Is it an investment company with lots of spare cash? Peter88      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:56) Posted: Just curious : 1) 9 Nov. is the XD for the  one for one bonus , Price was 1.96 . Is this XD price from 3.92 ( Before XD price )  ? 2) A case in point: As at 1HFY20, Top Glove has cash and investment securities amounting to MYR348m and MYR1.45b respectively. It is not a net cash company with MYR1.52b of short- and long-term loans and borrowings.  This was mentioned in the analyst report by Ernest Lim https://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/943-2020/13762-riverstone-is-recent-32-decline-justified .  What is this statement ?  Riverstone also invest in bonds ? Hope some friend s here can help to enlighten , thanks. Veteran Posted: 03-Dec-2020 18:48
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Checkerman Master	03-Dec-2020 19:03        Checkerman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If simply believe in all this report sure run road investor999      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:37) Posted: https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/healthcare/sgx-ap4/riverstone-holdings-shares/news/these-4-measures-indicate-that-riverstone-holdings-sgxap4-is ADS2200      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:18) Posted: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/6DUW7WP42STDXMLT/78ea104b8ff2c05aa4f00bc8b5c68d69dd0392c3496e768c302de110b97b36b7 ceo buying last 2 days. as mentioned epf bought 1,000,000 value $1,323,200
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Peter88 Senior	03-Dec-2020 18:56        Peter88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just curious : 1) 9 Nov. is the XD for the  one for one bonus , Price was 1.96 . Is this XD price from 3.92 ( Before XD price )  ? 2) A case in point: As at 1HFY20, Top Glove has cash and investment securities amounting to MYR348m and MYR1.45b respectively. It is not a net cash company with MYR1.52b of short- and long-term loans and borrowings.  This was mentioned in the analyst report by Ernest Lim https://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/943-2020/13762-riverstone-is-recent-32-decline-justified .  What is this statement ?  Riverstone also invest in bonds ? Hope some friend s here can help to enlighten , thanks. Veteran Posted: 03-Dec-2020 18:48
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Scarycat Member	03-Dec-2020 18:54        Scarycat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi bros Am vested. Below is the reply from Riverstone on my enquiry today on the recent large decline in its share price: "It is worthy to note that many healthcare-related stocks have experienced some selling in recent weeks following the news of successful Covid-19 vaccine trials. Hence, we believe the recent share price performance could be largely sentiment-driven and closely related to the news. With that said, Riverstone continues to engage frequently with shareholders and potential investors through various channels (such as attending various non-deal roadshows) to promote the counter. However, we must highlight that share price is driven largely by external market forces beyond the company?s control. It may be worthwhile to note that Riverstone?s CEO, Mr Wong Teek Son, continues to purchase shares on the open market at current levels. We believe this is a positive signal that the stock remains undervalued based on current fundamentals. As you may have noticed, average selling prices of gloves continue to trend upwards and worldwide demand remains robust."
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 18:48        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Simply Wall Street is not a good authoritative source. The actual walls street journal is the better guide. But will it cover river stone? We need an independent valuer. We need some tools of financial analysis. Who can provide?? investor999      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:40) Posted: There is generally a positive attitude towards Riverstone. Simply wall street report that debts were well managed with positive cash position. EPF Malaysia disposed 1.4 + million shares of TOP glove to pick up 1 million shares of Riverstone. I guess selling is ended or ending soon investor999      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:37) Posted: https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/healthcare/sgx-ap4/riverstone-holdings-shares/news/these-4-measures-indicate-that-riverstone-holdings-sgxap4-i
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humblestudent666 Senior	03-Dec-2020 18:44        humblestudent666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Epf no choice have to buy They hold how many million shares at post split price of close to $2. Sell now for close to 50% loss meh
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investor999 Elite	03-Dec-2020 18:40        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There is generally a positive attitude towards Riverstone. Simply wall street report that debts were well managed with positive cash position. EPF Malaysia disposed 1.4 + million shares of TOP glove to pick up 1 million shares of Riverstone. I guess selling is ended or ending soon investor999      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:37) Posted: https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/healthcare/sgx-ap4/riverstone-holdings-shares/news/these-4-measures-indicate-that-riverstone-holdings-sgxap4-is ADS2200      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:18) Posted: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/6DUW7WP42STDXMLT/78ea104b8ff2c05aa4f00bc8b5c68d69dd0392c3496e768c302de110b97b36b7 ceo buying last 2 days. as mentioned epf bought 1,000,000 value $1,323,200
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investor999 Elite	03-Dec-2020 18:37        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/healthcare/sgx-ap4/riverstone-holdings-shares/news/these-4-measures-indicate-that-riverstone-holdings-sgxap4-is ADS2200      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 18:18) Posted: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/6DUW7WP42STDXMLT/78ea104b8ff2c05aa4f00bc8b5c68d69dd0392c3496e768c302de110b97b36b7 ceo buying last 2 days. as mentioned epf bought 1,000,000 value $1,323,200   ADS2200      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 09:54) Posted: sgvale, it gives you a hi-5. for that i bought 5 lots but not at 1.25 ' cos it is only for my eyes to see only.  at first i thought increasing the no of shares will dilute the price. someone very kind, asked me a leading question and i did  a check. boh lei bonus share don' t dilute the share. the management and ceo so sweet and has been buying for the last 2 days. malaysia boleh with their epf in this coy. till today hor, every countries still trying to find solution for dengue ..... dengue already there for sooooo loooooong still no solution. i think must find solution in the one that created the mosquito lah. imho
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ADS2200 Veteran	03-Dec-2020 18:18        ADS2200 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/6DUW7WP42STDXMLT/78ea104b8ff2c05aa4f00bc8b5c68d69dd0392c3496e768c302de110b97b36b7 ceo buying last 2 days. as mentioned epf bought 1,000,000 value $1,323,200   ADS2200      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 09:54) Posted: sgvale, it gives you a hi-5. for that i bought 5 lots but not at 1.25 ' cos it is only for my eyes to see only.  at first i thought increasing the no of shares will dilute the price. someone very kind, asked me a leading question and i did  a check. boh lei bonus share don' t dilute the share. the management and ceo so sweet and has been buying for the last 2 days. malaysia boleh with their epf in this coy. till today hor, every countries still trying to find solution for dengue ..... dengue already there for sooooo loooooong still no solution. i think must find solution in the one that created the mosquito lah. imho
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WhereI Master	03-Dec-2020 17:53        WhereI About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How does one price in a strong demand for gloves? There will need to be objective evidence and figures to support how that demand will translate to revenue and profits which will in turn influence the stock price. Mere qualitative analysis and description is insufficient. We need a more quantitative analysis of this stock. I personally do not subscribe to monkey theory, although everyone is free to believe in whatever or whosoever is causing stock prices to move. From market depth analysis we may spot a big buyer from time to time, but what makes or who moves the market is mere Speculation and I would not want to proceed to far on that.    SGPhantom      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 17:23) Posted: Couldn' t agree more, and couldn' t describe it any better. wavehunter      ( Date: 03-Dec-2020 16:56) Posted: The only reason why people still believe in this stock is becoz of the strong demand for gloves etc...something which has been repeated and repeated many times over and which the market already know. But yet the price is heading lower day after day. Why ? If news of strong demand works, shouldnt the stock price be back at the peak and looking to make new higher highs? Strong demand for gloves probably fully priced in already. Market is always forward looking. It is not as if weak demand was projected all along and then only now news of strong demand hits the market for the very first time. When COVID19 news first hit the market, we had a selldown. After that, bad news about more infections and deaths and lockdowns came out day after day. Did the market react negatively to that and fell lower and lower and lower until basement 1 then basement 2 and lower? No, she didnt. After that nasty selldown in March, the market became completely numb to rising number of infections and deaths. If you compare the number of global infections and deaths during the MAR LOWs and the number of total infections and deaths today, Dow should have fallen to 5000 pts already. But instead, Dow is at near 30,000 pts. MAR LOW was around 18300. This shows that bad news... the same type of bad news... you cannot keep using it to expect a market to drop. There will come a time when the market will be numb to it and dont want to drop anymore. Likewise, you cannot keep using the same type of good news, ie. strong demand for gloves etc to keep expecting a stock to rise and rise and blast off to the Moon first. And then to the outer planets of the Solar System. It doesnt work that way. After the initial good news is priced in, a repeat of that same type of good news, ie. strong demand for gloves... will have diminishing return and then no return.  So will this stock bounce? Yes. When it has fallen enough, there will be a technical rebound.  The fuel for this rebound will come from shortcovering and bargain hunting. If a monkey is in the driver' s seat, this rebound will go further. But will eventually fizzle out when the monkey leaves the party. Only if we get a big and strong monkey who wants to start a 2nd round of speculative fever will we see a much stronger bounce and if the monkey is willing, even back to the peak. Its not about FA or TA or strong demand for gloves. Its about whether the monkey thinks he can stir and maintain another round of push and dump to make money out of people like us. In other words, its all about I Chia Mai niah. And this will depend on the monkey' s assessment whether there are enough of us to participate and chase the price if he chooses to do this. He needs that. He needs us to chase the price so that he can sell to us as the price rises. If we dont chase...if we just watch from the sideline, his plan will fail.
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Peter88 Senior	03-Dec-2020 17:37        Peter88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just announced , EPF also bought One million shares at 1.323 .
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