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FATABA Supreme	18-Jan-2018 15:10        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is not new issue ....for arguement ....soya and many other agri product shld b also included ?  So Eu is target some countries or product ? ( lol ...time will tell ) Olam is zoning up ....and Wilmar result is 22nd Feb.....could be an opportunity to accumulate. DYODD. Eruditionboy      ( Date: 18-Jan-2018 13:55) Posted: Will EU ban on palm oil affect wilmar revenue?
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Eruditionboy Senior	18-Jan-2018 13:55        Eruditionboy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will EU ban on palm oil affect wilmar revenue?
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wavehunter Supreme	18-Jan-2018 13:38        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Her chart says BUY ZONE is at 3.15 to 3.19.
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noslen Veteran	18-Jan-2018 13:01        noslen About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The good run yesterday undone the very next day...
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noslen Veteran	17-Jan-2018 21:52        noslen About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good closing price so hopefully it will break 3.30 tomorrow and starts building up all the way to CNY...
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wavehunter Supreme	17-Jan-2018 09:23        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	She is edging up.... 3.23 : 3.24 now. This could be the start of her Results Play. She is reporting on 22 Feb 2018 and will be declaring dividends. But XD date will be in Apr.
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noslen Veteran	16-Jan-2018 17:37        noslen About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think it was the same in 2017.... leongyan      ( Date: 16-Jan-2018 16:55) Posted: Last 2 Q it rallied up prior to earnings and than tanked after release.. so the movement from now till 22 feb will tell you when to take profit.. Octavia      ( Date: 12-Jan-2018 21:23) Posted: Full yr result to be released after trading hour on 22 Feb 18.
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rainbowman Senior	16-Jan-2018 17:36        rainbowman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	EU is planning to ban palm oil imports from these region, impact may be significant wavehunter      ( Date: 16-Jan-2018 15:17) Posted: SINGAPORE (Jan 16): UOB Kay Hian is maintaining its " buy" call on Wilmar with target price of $4.10 or blended 14 times FY18 earnings, which is higher than its five-year mean. UOB is pegging the oilseeds and grains division at 20 times FY18 earnings to factor in the potential listing of its China operations. The research house is also valuing the tropical oils division at 15 times FY18 earnings, and the sugar division and other businesses at 10 times FY18 earnings. In a Tuesday report, UOB analyst Leow Huey Chuen expects Wilmar to report 4Q17 core profit of between US$360 million and 380 million ($476-502 million) on higher contribution from the tropical oils and sugar divisions. While higher than in 3Q17, the forecast is lower compared to 4Q16 which saw unusually strong contribution from the sugar division and the oilseeds & grains segments. PBT of tropical oils is largely supported by higher sales volume and a stable margin. Sales volume is expected to have increased on the back of higher upstream production in 4Q17. Leow expects tropical oils to report higher 4Q17 refining margin compared to 2Q17 and 3Q17 as biodiesel deliveries rebounded and contributed positively to earnings. In addition, 4Q17 PBT for the sugar division is expected to be higher q-o-q but weaker y-o-y as the strong performance in 4Q16 will not recur as milling volumes peaked in 4Q instead of 3Q. 4Q17 PBT for oilseeds and grains is likely to register a weaker q-o-q and y-o-y on lower sales of consumer packs as festive demand will only come in 1Q18 with Chinese New Year falling in February. Meantime, UOB understands Wilmar&rsquo s plan to list its Mainland operations on China&rsquo s A-share market is on track. Wilmar has completed internal restructuring. The listing application will start after Wilmar China completes the financial year ending Dec. " Depending on the listing queue, the listing could take pace in 2H19 or closer to 4Q19," says Leow.
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leongyan Master	16-Jan-2018 16:55        leongyan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Last 2 Q it rallied up prior to earnings and than tanked after release.. so the movement from now till 22 feb will tell you when to take profit.. Octavia      ( Date: 12-Jan-2018 21:23) Posted: Full yr result to be released after trading hour on 22 Feb 18.
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wavehunter Supreme	16-Jan-2018 15:17        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SINGAPORE (Jan 16): UOB Kay Hian is maintaining its " buy" call on Wilmar with target price of $4.10 or blended 14 times FY18 earnings, which is higher than its five-year mean. UOB is pegging the oilseeds and grains division at 20 times FY18 earnings to factor in the potential listing of its China operations. The research house is also valuing the tropical oils division at 15 times FY18 earnings, and the sugar division and other businesses at 10 times FY18 earnings. In a Tuesday report, UOB analyst Leow Huey Chuen expects Wilmar to report 4Q17 core profit of between US$360 million and 380 million ($476-502 million) on higher contribution from the tropical oils and sugar divisions. While higher than in 3Q17, the forecast is lower compared to 4Q16 which saw unusually strong contribution from the sugar division and the oilseeds & grains segments. PBT of tropical oils is largely supported by higher sales volume and a stable margin. Sales volume is expected to have increased on the back of higher upstream production in 4Q17. Leow expects tropical oils to report higher 4Q17 refining margin compared to 2Q17 and 3Q17 as biodiesel deliveries rebounded and contributed positively to earnings. In addition, 4Q17 PBT for the sugar division is expected to be higher q-o-q but weaker y-o-y as the strong performance in 4Q16 will not recur as milling volumes peaked in 4Q instead of 3Q. 4Q17 PBT for oilseeds and grains is likely to register a weaker q-o-q and y-o-y on lower sales of consumer packs as festive demand will only come in 1Q18 with Chinese New Year falling in February. Meantime, UOB understands Wilmar&rsquo s plan to list its Mainland operations on China&rsquo s A-share market is on track. Wilmar has completed internal restructuring. The listing application will start after Wilmar China completes the financial year ending Dec. " Depending on the listing queue, the listing could take pace in 2H19 or closer to 4Q19," says Leow.
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wavehunter Supreme	13-Jan-2018 17:46        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All houses including those who offer DMA has the " Limit feature" as well. The Limit feature works like this. Let' s say you key in an order to BUY 30 lots of Wilmar at 3.15, you can select the duration of your order such as " Good For The Day" or " Good Till Cancelled" . A " Good For The Day" order expires by the end of that day if it is not filled. A " Good Till Cancelled" order will remain in the system until it is filled or cancelled by you. This order is an offer by you to your House to buy or sell a stock at a particular price. Only your House and your House alone can fill that order. Becoz your order is not in the queue. Your order does not  affect the Order Book of the stock exchange in the cash market.  So when  will your BUY or SELL order be filled by the House? My own experience with IG Market (and I believe it is the same for the other Houses) is that when I use the Limit feature to buy a stock at say 3.15, my order will be filled only if the stock is trading in the cash market at 3.14 : 3.15. In other words, in the cash market, people must sell at my price. Only then will my BUY order be filled. Conversely, if I use the Limit feature to sell a stock, people in the cash market must buy at my price. Only then will my SELL order be filled. And even then, the BUY and SELL volume in the cash market must not be disproportionate to your order size. Let me explain. Say I use the Limit feature to key in a BUY order for 10 lots at 3.15. In the cash market, the stock did at one time trade at 3.14 : 3.15 and 3.14 was the Day Low. However, although in the cash market, people were selling at 3.15, there were only 5 lots selling at that price and that was the highest number of lots selling at 3.15 throughout that day. Becoz my BUY order is for 10 lots and there are only 5 lots selling at that price, IG will most probably fill my BUY order for 10 lots at 3.15. This is entirely at IG' s discretion whether to fill up my BUY order which is at a size bigger than what the market is selling. If there are 20 lots selling, then there is no discretion. IG should fill up my BUY order for 10 lots.  However, if my BUY order at 3.15 is for 100 lots but throughout the day, the highest number of lots selling at 3.15 was say, only 20 lots, in such a situation, I do not think IG will fill up my BUY order for 100 lots at 3.15. My BUY order will remain unfilled. Cant say this is unfair. Becoz in the cash market, my BUY order for 100 lots will not be filled either. If my order is the first in line in the Order Book of the stock  exchange, only 20 lots will be done. The remaining 80 lots...I will not get.  I dunno about other Houses. IG gives you a choice whether to allow a partial fill of your Limit Order. The default setting is that all or none of your Limit Order will be filled. But if you instruct that you allow a partial fill, IG can at their discreton makes a partial fill of your Limit Order depending on the order size in the cash market.  The downside about allowing a partial fill is that you may well end up with a partially filled position so small that you trigger the minimum com. Which is why I wont allow a partial fill if I use a Limit Order to place my order.
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spore1 Supreme	13-Jan-2018 10:32        spore1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CMC has this Limit feature whereby user can set your ideal Buy or Selling price. It will get trigger when the Limit price is reached . But do not has the other options for pre-opening and closing feature .. Is pretty easy to use their platform . I think for CMC to get the 250 bonus need a min transfer of 1K & place one trade to qualify.(terms and conditions apply) . Gd luck! wavehunter      ( Date: 12-Jan-2018 20:01) Posted: Prior to signing up with IG, I also checked with CMC Markets and discovered that the CFD offered by CMC has one major drawback. CMC does not offer DMA which stands for Direct Market Access. CMC' s CFD is based on the Market Maker Model. What is the difference between Direct Market Access and Market Maker Model ? In the DMA model, when you submit a BUY or SELL order to your CFD House, they will in turn submit a corresponding BUY or SELL order to the Order Books of the stock exchange. Hence, your BUY or SELL orders directly affect the BUY and SELL queues in the cash market. You can actually see, for example, the SELL queue increasing by 100 lots when you submit a SELL order for 100 lots. In DMA, you take your place in the BUY and SELL queues and wait for your order to be filled. The price is the same price transacted in the cash market. There is full transparency when you buy or sell. Your BUY or SELL order is filled when someone else in the cash market  sells to you or buys from you.  It is exactly like trading with a cash account. When you trade via DMA, you can queue to buy or sell at your preferred price and wait for your order to be filled. If your order is not filled, it will  expire by the end of the day. Throughout the day, you can amend the price of your pending order or withdraw it if it is not already filled. And you  can participate in pre-opening and pre-closing. All this you can do just like with your cash account. In the Market Maker Model, you trade against your House.  When you want to buy or sell a stock, you cannot queue. If you want to buy, your trade is done right away but at the prevailing SELL PRICE. If you want to sell, your trade is done straight away at the prevailing BUY price. And becoz you cannot queue to buy or sell, you also cannot participate in pre-opening and pre-closing sequences, which is a major setback becoz oftentimes, the thickest meat and sweetest juice are found in the pre-opening and pre-closing sequences.    CMC Markets do not offer DMA. So if DMA is important to you, you need to find another CFD House which offer DMA. City Index also do not offer DMA. I believe all the others do offer DMA. But their commission rates and interest rates are different. You may want to go online to search and compare.
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Octavia Supreme	12-Jan-2018 21:23        Octavia About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Full yr result to be released after trading hour on 22 Feb 18.
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wavehunter Supreme	12-Jan-2018 20:01        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Prior to signing up with IG, I also checked with CMC Markets and discovered that the CFD offered by CMC has one major drawback. CMC does not offer DMA which stands for Direct Market Access. CMC' s CFD is based on the Market Maker Model. What is the difference between Direct Market Access and Market Maker Model ? In the DMA model, when you submit a BUY or SELL order to your CFD House, they will in turn submit a corresponding BUY or SELL order to the Order Books of the stock exchange. Hence, your BUY or SELL orders directly affect the BUY and SELL queues in the cash market. You can actually see, for example, the SELL queue increasing by 100 lots when you submit a SELL order for 100 lots. In DMA, you take your place in the BUY and SELL queues and wait for your order to be filled. The price is the same price transacted in the cash market. There is full transparency when you buy or sell. Your BUY or SELL order is filled when someone else in the cash market  sells to you or buys from you.  It is exactly like trading with a cash account. When you trade via DMA, you can queue to buy or sell at your preferred price and wait for your order to be filled. If your order is not filled, it will  expire by the end of the day. Throughout the day, you can amend the price of your pending order or withdraw it if it is not already filled. And you  can participate in pre-opening and pre-closing. All this you can do just like with your cash account. In the Market Maker Model, you trade against your House.  When you want to buy or sell a stock, you cannot queue. If you want to buy, your trade is done right away but at the prevailing SELL PRICE. If you want to sell, your trade is done straight away at the prevailing BUY price. And becoz you cannot queue to buy or sell, you also cannot participate in pre-opening and pre-closing sequences, which is a major setback becoz oftentimes, the thickest meat and sweetest juice are found in the pre-opening and pre-closing sequences.    CMC Markets do not offer DMA. So if DMA is important to you, you need to find another CFD House which offer DMA. City Index also do not offer DMA. I believe all the others do offer DMA. But their commission rates and interest rates are different. You may want to go online to search and compare.
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spore1 Supreme	12-Jan-2018 15:51        spore1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am using CMC market, there is this new account bonus gift of $250 via referral . Terms and condition apply. If interested , do pm me .
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leongyan Master	11-Jan-2018 10:55        leongyan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree.. for wilmar let go at 3.15 so didn't maximize the run up. For singtel I let go prior to XD else holding cost would have killed given SingTel's price today. I hold the rest in cash. wavehunter      ( Date: 11-Jan-2018 10:34) Posted: Bro, Which house you using and what is their com and interest rate like? If buy at 3.09 and hold for one month to sell at 3.23... profits should be quite decent. Unless your House has a crocodile mouth and love lion meat - took the lion' s share of your earnings. IG' s com is 0.1% of transaction value. There is no GST. That 0.1% is all inclusive. Their interest is 2.5% + SIBOR. Both add together...around 3.6% p.a. Let' s say 100 lots at 3.09... and sell at 3.23... To calculate the daily interest, I will use the median price of 3.16. 3.16 x 100,000 shares x 3.6% = $11,376 divide by 365 days = $31.17 per day... x 30 days = $935.10. Com at 0.1% is... 3.09 + 3.23 x 100,000 shares x 0.1% = $632.00. So total transaction cost to hold 100 lots for 30 days is $1567.10. Profit on sale of 100 lots at 3.23 (bought at 3.09) is $14,000. After deducting transaction cost of $1567.10, net profit is $12,432.90. That' s a VERY decent profit for a 1-mth trade.    leongyan      ( Date: 11-Jan-2018 10:15) Posted: Me no reits. Don't like to own a building pillar LOL.. But seriously I realise using CFD for Wilmar can't make it.. I bought in dec at 3.09 and profit were little after holding for so long. CFD interest charges are hefty. So I have decided to omit wilmar from CFD. use cash instead as there is no holding costs. Than swap other cash counters into wilmar.
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wavehunter Supreme	11-Jan-2018 10:49        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Those of you who are interested in signing up for CFD can PM me. I can arrange a special deal for you. Upon completing 5 trades within 6 mths of account opening, you will receive a gift of $350. This deal is available only to new sign-ups and provided you sign up thru my Premium Account Manager with IG. To be eligible for this special gift, do not sign up at IG' s website. Not even for a Demo account. Becoz IG will then not recognise you as a referral from me. You wont find this deal anywhere else.
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wavehunter Supreme	11-Jan-2018 10:34        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, Which house you using and what is their com and interest rate like? If buy at 3.09 and hold for one month to sell at 3.23... profits should be quite decent. Unless your House has a crocodile mouth and love lion meat - took the lion' s share of your earnings. IG' s com is 0.1% of transaction value. There is no GST. That 0.1% is all inclusive. Their interest is 2.5% + SIBOR. Both add together...around 3.6% p.a. Let' s say 100 lots at 3.09... and sell at 3.23... To calculate the daily interest, I will use the median price of 3.16. 3.16 x 100,000 shares x 3.6% = $11,376 divide by 365 days = $31.17 per day... x 30 days = $935.10. Com at 0.1% is... 3.09 + 3.23 x 100,000 shares x 0.1% = $632.00. So total transaction cost to hold 100 lots for 30 days is $1567.10. Profit on sale of 100 lots at 3.23 (bought at 3.09) is $14,000. After deducting transaction cost of $1567.10, net profit is $12,432.90. That' s a VERY decent profit for a 1-mth trade.    leongyan      ( Date: 11-Jan-2018 10:15) Posted: Me no reits. Don't like to own a building pillar LOL.. But seriously I realise using CFD for Wilmar can't make it.. I bought in dec at 3.09 and profit were little after holding for so long. CFD interest charges are hefty. So I have decided to omit wilmar from CFD. use cash instead as there is no holding costs. Than swap other cash counters into wilmar. wavehunter      ( Date: 10-Jan-2018 16:51) Posted: Yes indeed, bro. I know you do that too - whack a few hundred lots when a good buying window opens up. Then let go when the rebound comes and pocket a few thousand bucks just lidat. You into REITs, bro? CapitaComm Trust Suntec REIT CapitaMall Trust These 3 are all paying dividends at end-Jan. Sure to run. Can use your (and mine) whack few hundred lots and collect thousands strategy.
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leongyan Master	11-Jan-2018 10:15        leongyan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Me no reits. Don't like to own a building pillar LOL.. But seriously I realise using CFD for Wilmar can't make it.. I bought in dec at 3.09 and profit were little after holding for so long. CFD interest charges are hefty. So I have decided to omit wilmar from CFD. use cash instead as there is no holding costs. Than swap other cash counters into wilmar. wavehunter      ( Date: 10-Jan-2018 16:51) Posted: Yes indeed, bro. I know you do that too - whack a few hundred lots when a good buying window opens up. Then let go when the rebound comes and pocket a few thousand bucks just lidat. You into REITs, bro? CapitaComm Trust Suntec REIT CapitaMall Trust These 3 are all paying dividends at end-Jan. Sure to run. Can use your (and mine) whack few hundred lots and collect thousands strategy.    leongyan      ( Date: 10-Jan-2018 16:10) Posted: sounds good bro.. few cents trading can make a lot in 100 lot qty.. :
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wavehunter Supreme	10-Jan-2018 21:32        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks bro. I just checked her chart.  Er... not to my liking. She takes two to two and a half months to move 4 to 5 cts. For a CFD trader, a stock which takes 2.5 mths to move 5 cts is not a good stock to play becoz after taking into account interest charges for that 2.5 mths, what' s left of that 5 cts is not worth the trouble. The REITs I look at can move 10 cts to 20 cts within a mth.  By the way, they will be in play this month and there is still upside between now and end-Jan. Except for Ascendas REIT, the other 3 will be paying dividends which will likely go XD on 30th or 31st Jan. CapitaMall Trust - results before market opens on Wed, 24 Jan 2018. CapitaComm Trust - results before market opens on Thu, 25 Jan 2018. Ascendas REIT - results after market close on Thu, 25 Jan 2018. Suntec REIT - no announcement yet but should be very soon. yuzuisland      ( Date: 10-Jan-2018 21:11) Posted: Starhill Reit is another one that I really love and has paid me a lot of meal vouchers in the past years :D wavehunter      ( Date: 10-Jan-2018 16:51) Posted: Yes indeed, bro. I know you do that too - whack a few hundred lots when a good buying window opens up. Then let go when the rebound comes and pocket a few thousand bucks just lidat. You into REITs, bro? CapitaComm Trust Suntec REIT CapitaMall Trust These 3 are all paying dividends at end-Jan. Sure to run. Can use your (and mine) whack few hundred lots and collect thousands strategy.
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