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KAMAL0883 Supreme	20-Feb-2018 15:24        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hardly see SG property company especially those listed in SGX close down hor.... all make bucks hor .... delisting is not close down..... delisted but business still running very well like All Green property , MCL land , Keppel Land etc these property companies with very deep pocket no need to tap money from market  famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:13) Posted: Why did i say pt 2? Look at the number of delisting and companies closing down. This will tell u that demand for housing will also go dwn. Plus oversupply? When no jobs, who will want to come? famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:06) Posted: For buyers now, Hav to worry 1) rising interest rates 2) no tenant 3) 100k stamp duty for 2nd property henced buyers will be limited to 1st home buyers which will reduce demand thus bring dwn the price.
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Lionel84 Member	20-Feb-2018 15:22        Lionel84 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1) First, delisting doesn mean company shut down or loss of jobs 2) Company shut down doesn mean no new companies opening. Unless there is backup by some stats that more jobs are being lost den being created 3) Future no jobs? Then what is the government thinking? Building Terminal 5, megaport, high speed rail, 3 more new mrt lines etc etc to sustain a 5.5 million ppl economy?   famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:13) Posted: Why did i say pt 2? Look at the number of delisting and companies closing down. This will tell u that demand for housing will also go dwn. Plus oversupply? When no jobs, who will want to come? famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:06) Posted: For buyers now, Hav to worry 1) rising interest rates 2) no tenant 3) 100k stamp duty for 2nd property henced buyers will be limited to 1st home buyers which will reduce demand thus bring dwn the price.
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 15:13        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why did i say pt 2? Look at the number of delisting and companies closing down. This will tell u that demand for housing will also go dwn. Plus oversupply? When no jobs, who will want to come? famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:06) Posted: For buyers now, Hav to worry 1) rising interest rates 2) no tenant 3) 100k stamp duty for 2nd property henced buyers will be limited to 1st home buyers which will reduce demand thus bring dwn the price.
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 15:10        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Because of this, will sti and property prices drop af least 20%? The only buffer is tt they bought ultra cheap but how many? Theres still 2mil people waitg to cash out urgently. famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:07) Posted: There r 2mil of these people. famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:02) Posted: Correc
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 15:07        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There r 2mil of these people. famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:02) Posted: Correct alexchew      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:32) Posted: many properties are still being built on not so good locations. Your point is wrong, many buyers of second properties are actually from mass markets and have likely overstretched themselves most likely
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 15:02        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Correct alexchew      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:32) Posted: many properties are still being built on not so good locations. Your point is wrong, many buyers of second properties are actually from mass markets and have likely overstretched themselves most likely. Andy80      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:27) Posted: Well, I dont totally agree with your point 2. No tenant pertainingto only certain districts. For people who are able own 2nd properties, one of the properties, will most likely be located at good districts (RCR or CR). Hence, tenancy at foresaid area, is still good. However, rental yield might not be as good compared to 10 years ago.
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	20-Feb-2018 15:01        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	LOL dun really big fat but if i added my private + HDB + 100k saving then i am worth 1 mio and above  money value getting smaller and smaller, lastime 500k can get 2 rms condo but now same size and same location need to force out 900k to 1mio.. once peoples use to price they are most willing to pay for it. another 10 years you will see people paying 1.3mio  kangaroo11      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:35) Posted: Bro u must be one of those with the very big fat pocket lah lol. My opinion, property prices have been declining gradually over the past yearsss and the moment when there are 1st sign of upticks in home prices in the last 2 quarters, garment acted swiftly to added "minute cooling measures". This shows the garment is very determined to CAP price growth and will not hestitate to introduce more if warranted. Upside will be capped. Those upgrading and buying for own stay may not mind the extra 1%, those buying for investment, upside cap, diminishing ROI, probably better to deploy capital to other investment vehicles like equities lol! KAMAL0883      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 11:17) Posted: temporary only .... big fat singreans and foreigners will soon ignore the 1% increase what is 1% stamps duty increase if the property price can go up 8
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	20-Feb-2018 14:51        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	not so good location also cost 1k and above psf liao  hard to find a new projects 3 rms condo with less than 1 mio  alexchew      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:32) Posted: many properties are still being built on not so good locations. Your point is wrong, many buyers of second properties are actually from mass markets and have likely overstretched themselves most likely. Andy80      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:27) Posted: Well, I dont totally agree with your point 2. No tenant pertainingto only certain districts. For people who are able own 2nd properties, one of the properties, will most likely be located at good districts (RCR or CR). Hence, tenancy at foresaid area, is still good. However, rental yield might not be as good compared to 10 years ago.
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Goldfinger Supreme	20-Feb-2018 14:44        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Paiseh - I live in a middle-sized freehold landed in a Central location that houses my 3G family.  It was paid in full from the profits of an enbloc sale I had 10 years ago, so technically FOC.  I feel it is very productive, as I derive a lot of happiness living in my " free" house.  Priceless feeling. littleones      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:58) Posted: If the government had a hand in it, there will be a way.  It is whether they want to do it or not.  But it is my hope that they will do it.  It is good for the country in the long run.  Invest in productive assets rather than in unproductive assets like properties Goldfinger      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:45) Posted: Unfort - the Good ones will never be available to the retail investor. Only the junk gets distributed
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Andy80 Senior	20-Feb-2018 13:47        Andy80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Mass markert buyers can have other choices too. It doesnt mean mass markey buyers only resort to not so good districts. Some of them will rather overstrtech to buy good disctrict areas.   alexchew      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:32) Posted: many properties are still being built on not so good locations. Your point is wrong, many buyers of second properties are actually from mass markets and have likely overstretched themselves most likely. Andy80      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:27) Posted: Well, I dont totally agree with your point 2. No tenant pertainingto only certain districts. For people who are able own 2nd properties, one of the properties, will most likely be located at good districts (RCR or CR). Hence, tenancy at foresaid area, is still good. However, rental yield might not be as good compared to 10 years ago.
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Andy80 Senior	20-Feb-2018 13:43        Andy80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unproductive assest like properties? Dont agree with the term you used. You shouldn' t bring in properties to compare with retails, F& B...etc... Is a total different element.....Assests like properties is the one of the key driving factor of the econmoy not only in Singapore but applies to the whole world. Hence, that' s y governmenet needs to pay more attenetion to something which will affect the economy. A rising economy & inflation in inevitable, hence higher rental & cost for retails and F& B. Those who are in this biz have got no choice.  To stay competitive, oneselves need to be more innovative.      littleones      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:58) Posted: If the government had a hand in it, there will be a way.  It is whether they want to do it or not.  But it is my hope that they will do it.  It is good for the country in the long run.  Invest in productive assets rather than in unproductive assets like properties Goldfinger      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:45) Posted: Unfort - the Good ones will never be available to the retail investor. Only the junk gets distributed
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alexchew Master	20-Feb-2018 13:32        alexchew About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	many properties are still being built on not so good locations. Your point is wrong, many buyers of second properties are actually from mass markets and have likely overstretched themselves most likely. Andy80      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:27) Posted: Well, I dont totally agree with your point 2. No tenant pertainingto only certain districts. For people who are able own 2nd properties, one of the properties, will most likely be located at good districts (RCR or CR). Hence, tenancy at foresaid area, is still good. However, rental yield might not be as good compared to 10 years ago.    famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:06) Posted: For buyers now, Hav to worry 1) rising interest rates 2) no tenant 3) 100k stamp duty for 2nd property henced buyers will be limited to 1st home buyers which will reduce demand thus bring dwn the price.
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Andy80 Senior	20-Feb-2018 13:27        Andy80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well, I dont totally agree with your point 2. No tenant pertainingto only certain districts. For people who are able own 2nd properties, one of the properties, will most likely be located at good districts (RCR or CR). Hence, tenancy at foresaid area, is still good. However, rental yield might not be as good compared to 10 years ago.    famouspinky      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 13:06) Posted: For buyers now, Hav to worry 1) rising interest rates 2) no tenant 3) 100k stamp duty for 2nd property henced buyers will be limited to 1st home buyers which will reduce demand thus bring dwn the price.
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 13:09        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Which they will sinced free money or low interest is now over. littleones      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:42) Posted: It is about time the government channel all monies put into this class of unproductive asset to better use. kangaroo11      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:35) Posted: Bro u must be one of those with the very big fat pocket lah lol. My opinion, property prices have been declining gradually over the past yearsss and the moment when there are 1st sign of upticks in home prices in the last 2 quarters, garment acted swiftly to added "minute cooling measures". This shows the garment is very determined to CAP price growth and will not hestitate to introduce more if warranted. Upside will be capped. Those upgrading and buying for own stay may not mind the extra 1%, those buying for investment, upside cap, diminishing ROI, probably better to deploy capital to other investment vehicles like equities lol
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 13:06        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For buyers now, Hav to worry 1) rising interest rates 2) no tenant 3) 100k stamp duty for 2nd property henced buyers will be limited to 1st home buyers which will reduce demand thus bring dwn the price.
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famouspinky Supreme	20-Feb-2018 13:04        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	👍 littleones      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:58) Posted: If the government had a hand in it, there will be a way.  It is whether they want to do it or not.  But it is my hope that they will do it.  It is good for the country in the long run.  Invest in productive assets rather than in unproductive assets like properties Goldfinger      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:45) Posted: Unfort - the Good ones will never be available to the retail investor. Only the junk gets distributed
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littleones Veteran	20-Feb-2018 12:58        littleones About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If the government had a hand in it, there will be a way.  It is whether they want to do it or not.  But it is my hope that they will do it.  It is good for the country in the long run.  Invest in productive assets rather than in unproductive assets like properties Goldfinger      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:45) Posted: Unfort - the Good ones will never be available to the retail investor. Only the junk gets distributed. littleones      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:29) Posted: The key is viable start-ups, not some fly by night businesses.  The money should be pooled and managed by some venture capitalists that will scrutinise the businesses that they will invest in. You think property is a sure bet investment?  Ask those Japanese property investors back in the late 80s or early 90s.  The world property bubble that we have now is due to easy money from massive printing of the USD.  That is a thing of the past as US debt has balloon to such a big figure that it may not be able to pay back.
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Goldfinger Supreme	20-Feb-2018 12:45        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unfort - the Good ones will never be available to the retail investor. Only the junk gets distributed. littleones      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:29) Posted: The key is viable start-ups, not some fly by night businesses.  The money should be pooled and managed by some venture capitalists that will scrutinise the businesses that they will invest in. You think property is a sure bet investment?  Ask those Japanese property investors back in the late 80s or early 90s.  The world property bubble that we have now is due to easy money from massive printing of the USD.  That is a thing of the past as US debt has balloon to such a big figure that it may not be able to pay back.    Goldfinger      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:15) Posted: Very remote very remote chance in my view. There is danger to do so as retirees should not blow their retirement funds into lousy start ups. The good ones will never be available to the man in the street either. They will have full access to S-Chips though
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littleones Veteran	20-Feb-2018 12:42        littleones About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is about time the government channel all monies put into this class of unproductive asset to better use. kangaroo11      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:35) Posted: Bro u must be one of those with the very big fat pocket lah lol. My opinion, property prices have been declining gradually over the past yearsss and the moment when there are 1st sign of upticks in home prices in the last 2 quarters, garment acted swiftly to added "minute cooling measures". This shows the garment is very determined to CAP price growth and will not hestitate to introduce more if warranted. Upside will be capped. Those upgrading and buying for own stay may not mind the extra 1%, those buying for investment, upside cap, diminishing ROI, probably better to deploy capital to other investment vehicles like equities lol! KAMAL0883      ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 11:17) Posted: temporary only .... big fat singreans and foreigners will soon ignore the 1% increase what is 1% stamps duty increase if the property price can go up 8
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