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25-Jul-2017 21:44     
 
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 Alert Admin 		GSS is under valued compared to peer companies
 

Peer comparison



Company

Market cap(US$&rsquo m)

PE ratio(trailing 12 mths)

EV/EBITDA(trailing 12 mths)



GSS Energy

55

7.0

1.9



Venture Corp

2592

18.3

10.7



EVA Precision

346

15.8

7.8



UMS

283

42.2

4.7



Jentech

260

15.0

3.7



Elec & Eltek

247

7.9

2.7



Sunningdale

238

7.8

9.7



Fu Yu

171

18.3

4.5



Frencken

142

6.6

3.6



Fischer Tech  

108

15.0

2.5



Spindex  

10.4

11.3

2.4



CEI

79

10.4

2.6



Cheung Woh

46

17.6

5.2



Average

377

15.5

5.0



Source: Bloomberg, 23 May 2017
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25-Jul-2017 19:41     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Yes I did , but my ability limited, see how
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25-Jul-2017 18:07     
 
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 Alert Admin 		PLs go buy up over 20c so that not much shortist will target this lol

xiongshi      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 17:30) Posted:

so you are going to short sell this stock, good luck to you

Adtower      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 15:34) Posted:

81% yet still below 20c really so speechless lo
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25-Jul-2017 17:54     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I got 300 lots of this 
it always up some vomited back all made me fainted few times already 😂 😂 😂 😂

xiongshi      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 17:30) Posted:

so you are going to short sell this stock, good luck to you

Adtower      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 15:34) Posted:

81% yet still below 20c really so speechless lo
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 Alert Admin 		so you are going to short sell this stock, good luck to you

Adtower      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 15:34) Posted:

81% yet still below 20c really so speechless lol

xiongshi      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 13:51) Posted: 

At present, the top five shareholders hold more than 81% of all the shares
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 Alert Admin 		81% yet still below 20c really so speechless lol

xiongshi      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 13:51) Posted: 

At present, the top five shareholders hold more than 81% of all the shares
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 Alert Admin 
At present, the top five shareholders hold more than 81% of all the shares
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 Alert Admin 		those who sell GSS at 0.169, what shall I tell you? Alamak, keep the share....
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25-Jul-2017 13:13     
 
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xiongshi      ( Date: 25-Jul-2017 12:30) Posted:

Go down more, i will buy more
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 Alert Admin 		Go down more, i will buy more
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25-Jul-2017 10:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		thats the time for you to load more shares
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 Alert Admin 		strange...why oil price go up, this stock price go down
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25-Jul-2017 09:28     
 
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 Alert Admin 		collected some..............
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23-Jul-2017 20:32     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Under valued at this px
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23-Jul-2017 18:42     
 
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 Alert Admin 		The option granted to CEO is not 47m, that's the total number granted to few key executives of the company including the CEO. Some of the options are discounted and some are at market price at the time of grant. They can't excercise it till at least 1 year and 2 years later. This is positive as they have to ensure GSS is profitable thus share price will go up accordingly. If not no incentive to excercise the option. We cannot simply view option to company's executive as bad thing. I think this option is incentive for them to make sure oil business come to fruition. They may excercise the option but doesn't mean they will sell. The lifespan of the option is 5 yrs, which is a short time. They better make the stock 50 cents by then 😂
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23-Jul-2017 18:22     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Don' t have big positions, just small ones not worth mentioning.   I have Koh Eco, building collection, good time to do so because of the rights issue, some dumping.       Looking at others based on charts for short term trading. 

Regarding investment bankers as CEOs, I personally see it as downside risks.   Look at what happend to big commercial banks that put Investment bankers as their CEOs.   ABN Amro, Deutshe bank.   Within a few years, all went downhill. Too quick to do big deals, without building a stable base, they want big meat but ignore the rice that fills the stomach.     Those are major banks with long history and stable commercial banking business.   The investment banker CEOs destroyed the business within a few years. 
I see a lack of disclosure in GSS, if they are more forthcoming, at least shareholders are more assured. \

 
 

xiongshi      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 17:55) Posted:

Bro, what stock did you buy?

TigTig      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 16:35) Posted:

Not yet.   I looked at it and found there are questions.   Pose here for two reasons.     Want to find out more.   Second, confirm whether the oil is in the money.    
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 Alert Admin 		Bro, what stock did you buy?

TigTig      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 16:35) Posted:

Not yet.   I looked at it and found there are questions.   Pose here for two reasons.     Want to find out more.   Second, confirm whether the oil is in the money.    

xiongshi      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 15:54) Posted:

did you buy this share
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 Alert Admin 		Not yet.   I looked at it and found there are questions.   Pose here for two reasons.     Want to find out more.   Second, confirm whether the oil is in the money.    

xiongshi      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 15:54) Posted:

did you buy this share?

TigTig      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 15:20) Posted:

The CEO has 47miln options according to a filing in SGX in Feb ' 17.      


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23-Jul-2017 16:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Noticed the os shares is about 500mln.   Giving 47mln to CEO?    
Not vested, but if I am, I would certainly question this.
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23-Jul-2017 16:24     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I think the company can make money, but the potential growth is really what investors are looking for.   The oil produced, I read, has to be sold back to the Indo Govt.   The important question is sale of oil is at what price, are there caps?   If ti' s a free float market price, the potential for growth from oil sales is there.   If it' s capped, the growth upside is limited, dependant on other biz. 

There' s a $13.6mln profit in financial year end 31st Dec 2016.   Out of which $10mln " Other Income" comes from sale of Subsi and land acquisition compensatioin, etc.   Extra ordinary income that is not recurring.   Net, net only $3mln profit. 
Precision engineering - I can' t find any description of contributions, if anyone can, please enlighten. 
The Company also has negative retained earnings, which possibly came about due to some restructuring, merger, etc, I didn' t find out more,but accumulated retained earnings obviously helps in funding new ventures.    

The price has risen considerably over past months, whether it' s justified remains to be seen.  
Reason I went to look into detail is I was thinking of vesting.       It still may be a good investment, but then, let' s be clear with the numbers before we jump in. 

 

TigTig      ( Date: 23-Jul-2017 15:20) Posted:

The CEO has 47miln options according to a filing in SGX in Feb ' 17.      

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