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windcloud Member	26-Aug-2021 10:08        windcloud About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	You can either sell off 65 shares in the odd lot trading function of your brokerage account & sell the remaning 900 shares in the usual market or buy 35 shares   in the odd lot trading function of your brokerage account to make 1000 shares. Brokerage fee for odd lot selling and buying of CICT will be free for some brokage firms such as Poems as stated in Capitaland delisting prospectus. MoneyUnsavvy      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 16:31) Posted: Just a question on Odd Lots. How do we sell or buy to make it even? eg from 965 to 1000 shares?
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Adrianinsing Elite	25-Aug-2021 22:54        Adrianinsing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes you trade the same as normally it' s only tradable in 100 lot units but you can trade odd lots during that special period  The issue is how much the brokerage will be as if the lots are v small  you could end up losing all your capital on the minimum brokerage ! MoneyUnsavvy      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 17:09) Posted: Thanks. Actually i meant the method (if it is not clear at all) not whether the shares will go up or go down- do i trade the same as way as trading the full lot but during the allocated timeslot? Thanks. Adrianinsing      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 16:48) Posted: That' s your choice  Nobody here is God  We all have to make own decisions  Many have advised holding but many have sold too low in panic  We can only advise - pick up or sell is your choice
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MoneyUnsavvy Member	25-Aug-2021 17:09        MoneyUnsavvy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks. Actually i meant the method (if it is not clear at all) not whether the shares will go up or go down- do i trade the same as way as trading the full lot but during the allocated timeslot? Thanks. Adrianinsing      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 16:48) Posted: That' s your choice  Nobody here is God  We all have to make own decisions  Many have advised holding but many have sold too low in panic  We can only advise - pick up or sell is your choice  MoneyUnsavvy      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 16:31) Posted: Just a question on Odd Lots. How do we sell or buy to make it even? eg from 965 to 1000 shares?
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Adrianinsing Elite	25-Aug-2021 16:48        Adrianinsing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That' s your choice  Nobody here is God  We all have to make own decisions  Many have advised holding but many have sold too low in panic  We can only advise - pick up or sell is your choice  MoneyUnsavvy      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 16:31) Posted: Just a question on Odd Lots. How do we sell or buy to make it even? eg from 965 to 1000 shares?
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Adrianinsing Elite	25-Aug-2021 16:46        Adrianinsing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It obviously did ! hokpin      ( Date: 25-Aug-2021 13:40) Posted: Will it go beyond 4.10 before delisting?
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MoneyUnsavvy Member	25-Aug-2021 16:31        MoneyUnsavvy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just a question on Odd Lots. How do we sell or buy to make it even? eg from 965 to 1000 shares?
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Ling9345 Master	25-Aug-2021 15:05        Ling9345 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Your money u decide, I am not the god
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Ling9345 Master	25-Aug-2021 13:44        Ling9345 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If u are holding, up down no difference for U,unless u going to sell or buy
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hokpin Supreme	25-Aug-2021 13:40        hokpin About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will it go beyond 4.10 before delisting?
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hokpin Supreme	24-Aug-2021 17:44        hokpin About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Powerful closing today!
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Adrianinsing Elite	21-Aug-2021 15:50        Adrianinsing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry I mean 16th September- that' s the day CLI lists  Odd lot trading for CLIT etc is 16 September - 14 October  Adrianinsing      ( Date: 21-Aug-2021 15:45) Posted: My view on how to profit most form the delisting exercise on 15 September  Given that ... For every 1,000  shares of Capitaland you have now   you will get the following on 15 September ... a) CASH-   1,000 x $0.951 = $951 b) CICT -   ( Capland Commercial Trust ) -   0.155 x 1,000 = 155 shares of CICT  c) CLI - ( the big one ) 1,000 shares of CLI  On 15 September I advise ... 1. Immediately put the cash returned by CapitaLand BACK   into buying CLI shares on first trading day 2. AVOID selling CapitaLand Commercial Trust ( many will do to raise more cash - it will rally significantly once the first wave of selling takes place - either buy more on weakness ( round up the odd lots ) or hold to end of odd lot trading date  3. HOLD your CLI shares and avoid taking small profits - institutions have been buying to hold and Temasek will not sell so why sell - hold for 3-4 weeks and u will get a good return and gold for 3-4 months and you will get  far more but only 3-4 years it can easily double.  Just my humble opinion    Adrianinsing      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 22:35) Posted: Correct - CLI will have a reference price not an IPO price  CapitaLand strong today - on its way back to $4.10 I was wrong - I thought it would retest $3.91 but it only touched $3.95 earlier this week  CapitaLand looks v solid - those who sold yesterday only have themselves to blame
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Adrianinsing Elite	21-Aug-2021 15:45        Adrianinsing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My view on how to profit most form the delisting exercise on 15 September  Given that ... For every 1,000  shares of Capitaland you have now   you will get the following on 15 September ... a) CASH-   1,000 x $0.951 = $951 b) CICT -   ( Capland Commercial Trust ) -   0.155 x 1,000 = 155 shares of CICT  c) CLI - ( the big one ) 1,000 shares of CLI  On 15 September I advise ... 1. Immediately put the cash returned by CapitaLand BACK   into buying CLI shares on first trading day 2. AVOID selling CapitaLand Commercial Trust ( many will do to raise more cash - it will rally significantly once the first wave of selling takes place - either buy more on weakness ( round up the odd lots ) or hold to end of odd lot trading date  3. HOLD your CLI shares and avoid taking small profits - institutions have been buying to hold and Temasek will not sell so why sell - hold for 3-4 weeks and u will get a good return and gold for 3-4 months and you will get  far more but only 3-4 years it can easily double.  Just my humble opinion    Adrianinsing      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 22:35) Posted: Correct - CLI will have a reference price not an IPO price  CapitaLand strong today - on its way back to $4.10 I was wrong - I thought it would retest $3.91 but it only touched $3.95 earlier this week  CapitaLand looks v solid - those who sold yesterday only have themselves to blame. lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 18:20) Posted: A more suitable word would be " reference" price. IPO issue price is to make it easier to understand. A more suitable statement: " The listing of CLI via introduction with reference price of $2.82" When u go for listing via IPO, u have issue price. When u go for listing via introduction u need a reference , without reference investors (shareholders of capitaland in this case) will not be able to know what they are getting
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tguanhoc Senior	21-Aug-2021 13:48        tguanhoc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Your comments seem discouraging.     Lobster           ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 17:50) Posted:    I don' t want to say this any more, or the last time I even want to mention this. There is no such thing as the IPO price, the issue price, the intrinsic price, the post delinked price, the theoretical price, the new nav price of CLIM. No such thing. Best is to say the guessing price, or " my guess of the price is...." .
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Adrianinsing Elite	20-Aug-2021 22:35        Adrianinsing About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Correct - CLI will have a reference price not an IPO price  CapitaLand strong today - on its way back to $4.10 I was wrong - I thought it would retest $3.91 but it only touched $3.95 earlier this week  CapitaLand looks v solid - those who sold yesterday only have themselves to blame. lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 18:20) Posted: A more suitable word would be " reference" price. IPO issue price is to make it easier to understand. A more suitable statement: " The listing of CLI via introduction with reference price of $2.82" When u go for listing via IPO, u have issue price. When u go for listing via introduction u need a reference , without reference investors (shareholders of capitaland in this case) will not be able to know what they are getting. Lobster      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 17:50) Posted: I don' t want to say this any more, or the last time I even want to mention this. There is no such thing as the IPO price, the issue price, the intrinsic price, the post delinked price, the theoretical price, the new nav price of CLIM. No such thing. Best is to say the guessing price, or " my guess of the price is...." .
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lukewong82 Master	20-Aug-2021 18:20        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 1  Alert Admin	A more suitable word would be " reference" price. IPO issue price is to make it easier to understand. A more suitable statement: " The listing of CLI via introduction with reference price of $2.82" When u go for listing via IPO, u have issue price. When u go for listing via introduction u need a reference , without reference investors (shareholders of capitaland in this case) will not be able to know what they are getting. Lobster      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 17:50) Posted: I don' t want to say this any more, or the last time I even want to mention this. There is no such thing as the IPO price, the issue price, the intrinsic price, the post delinked price, the theoretical price, the new nav price of CLIM. No such thing. Best is to say the guessing price, or " my guess of the price is...." .
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Lobster Elite	20-Aug-2021 17:50        Lobster About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Even Adam Khoo believes in the Black Market!"
x 1   x 2  Alert Admin	I don' t want to say this any more, or the last time I even want to mention this. There is no such thing as the IPO price, the issue price, the intrinsic price, the post delinked price, the theoretical price, the new nav price of CLIM. No such thing. Best is to say the guessing price, or " my guess of the price is...." .
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HT10000 Member	20-Aug-2021 17:17        HT10000 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	I see. thank a lot.   lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 16:59) Posted: issue price $2.82 U dun have to do anything. as long as u dun sell ur capitaland on or before 3 September, ur shares will be entitlted to the cash + CICT  + CLI. If u happen to sell on or before 3 September then u dun be entitled. If u sell on or before 3 September but u buy back before or on 3 September, then ur newly purchased shares will be entitled.    HT10000      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 16:32) Posted: Thanks you very much for your explanation and clear now.    Pls may I know belows.  Can we know the issue price of CLI  now? 4) around 8 or 9 September will be book record date for entitlement. aka those having the shares will be entitled to the cash +CICT +CLI > > What shall i need to do to get these cash+CICT+CLI ? thanks.
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lukewong82 Master	20-Aug-2021 16:59        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	issue price $2.82 U dun have to do anything. as long as u dun sell ur capitaland on or before 3 September, ur shares will be entitlted to the cash + CICT  + CLI. If u happen to sell on or before 3 September then u dun be entitled. If u sell on or before 3 September but u buy back before or on 3 September, then ur newly purchased shares will be entitled.    HT10000      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 16:32) Posted: Thanks you very much for your explanation and clear now.    Pls may I know belows.  Can we know the issue price of CLI  now? 4) around 8 or 9 September will be book record date for entitlement. aka those having the shares will be entitled to the cash +CICT +CLI > > What shall i need to do to get these cash+CICT+CLI ? thanks. lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 14:25) Posted: Another possible actions if u trust CLI to produce excellent maiden results next feb. 1) U can use ur cash of $9510 to buy more CLI on 16 September assuming $3 CLI trading price.. so u can buy around $9150/$3 = 3100 shares of CLI. So end up ur 10000 shares of capitaland becomes 13100 shares of CLI + 1550 shares of CICT    OR 2) U can use ur cash of $9150 + u sell ur 1550 shares of CICT (worth around $3250) and use the cash+proceed to buy even more CLI on 16 September assuming $3 CLI trading price.. so u can buy around ($9150 + $3250) / $3 =  4100 shares of CLI. So end up ur 10000 shares of capitaland becomes 14100 shares of CLI
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HT10000 Member	20-Aug-2021 16:32        HT10000 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks you very much for your explanation and clear now.    Pls may I know belows.  Can we know the issue price of CLI  now? 4) around 8 or 9 September will be book record date for entitlement. aka those having the shares will be entitled to the cash +CICT +CLI > > What shall i need to do to get these cash+CICT+CLI ? thanks. lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 14:25) Posted: Another possible actions if u trust CLI to produce excellent maiden results next feb. 1) U can use ur cash of $9510 to buy more CLI on 16 September assuming $3 CLI trading price.. so u can buy around $9150/$3 = 3100 shares of CLI. So end up ur 10000 shares of capitaland becomes 13100 shares of CLI + 1550 shares of CICT    OR 2) U can use ur cash of $9150 + u sell ur 1550 shares of CICT (worth around $3250) and use the cash+proceed to buy even more CLI on 16 September assuming $3 CLI trading price.. so u can buy around ($9150 + $3250) / $3 =  4100 shares of CLI. So end up ur 10000 shares of capitaland becomes 14100 shares of CLI    lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 13:30) Posted: Based on what i can recall: 1) Capitaland will trade until 3 September aka last day of trading.  2) On 30 Aug they will apply for court sanction to approve the deal so it means 31 Aug we may see CE (Cum entitlement) appears or may not but anyway from now till 3 September is considered (CE). 3) On 6 September capitaland will be suspended, no trading of the shares. 4) around 8 or 9 September will be book record date for entitlement. aka those having the shares will be entitled to the cash +CICT +CLI 5) on 15 September u will get ur cash + CICT 6) on 16 September ur CLI will be in ur CDP account and CLI will start trading on that day 9am. 7) Capitaland will be delisted .. no more capitaland in sgx. eg: U have 10000 shares of Capitaland now  On 15 September a) u will receive 10000 x $0.951 = $9510 b) u will receive 0.155 x 10000 = 1550 shares of CICT (Capitaland commercial trust) c) u will receive 10000 shares of CLI U can sell ur 1550 shares of CICT and 10000 shares of CLI on 16 Sept.
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lukewong82 Master	20-Aug-2021 14:25        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Another possible actions if u trust CLI to produce excellent maiden results next feb. 1) U can use ur cash of $9510 to buy more CLI on 16 September assuming $3 CLI trading price.. so u can buy around $9150/$3 = 3100 shares of CLI. So end up ur 10000 shares of capitaland becomes 13100 shares of CLI + 1550 shares of CICT    OR 2) U can use ur cash of $9150 + u sell ur 1550 shares of CICT (worth around $3250) and use the cash+proceed to buy even more CLI on 16 September assuming $3 CLI trading price.. so u can buy around ($9150 + $3250) / $3 =  4100 shares of CLI. So end up ur 10000 shares of capitaland becomes 14100 shares of CLI    lukewong82      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 13:30) Posted: Based on what i can recall: 1) Capitaland will trade until 3 September aka last day of trading.  2) On 30 Aug they will apply for court sanction to approve the deal so it means 31 Aug we may see CE (Cum entitlement) appears or may not but anyway from now till 3 September is considered (CE). 3) On 6 September capitaland will be suspended, no trading of the shares. 4) around 8 or 9 September will be book record date for entitlement. aka those having the shares will be entitled to the cash +CICT +CLI 5) on 15 September u will get ur cash + CICT 6) on 16 September ur CLI will be in ur CDP account and CLI will start trading on that day 9am. 7) Capitaland will be delisted .. no more capitaland in sgx. eg: U have 10000 shares of Capitaland now  On 15 September a) u will receive 10000 x $0.951 = $9510 b) u will receive 0.155 x 10000 = 1550 shares of CICT (Capitaland commercial trust) c) u will receive 10000 shares of CLI U can sell ur 1550 shares of CICT and 10000 shares of CLI on 16 Sept. HT10000      ( Date: 20-Aug-2021 12:54) Posted: i ve bought capitaland shares @ 4. 0++.  What will happen on my shares quantity & share price when capitaland delist ?  How will they convert capitaland share to  CLI.? Can pls someone explain as  i  am just newer. Thanks
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