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risktaker Supreme	08-Mar-2017 08:27        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Battery cost 5k to replace for now. It last u 3 to 5 years....and by the next few years as more people adopt EV the price will drop.... 1k of battery per year compare to ur montly 250 fuel tank? Combusion engine need more maintenace and consume more oil if u wanted to more advance technology for ur car. Combusion engine is dirty and polluted If the power provider is green using alternative energy such as wind solar.... there is hardly any carbon footprint for ur car except during production. But for fossil fuel car... its noisy oily smelly... it require battery as well for advance gadget... its engine is not effective therefore the currently the fastest car from 0 to 100km is a EV car... its 2sec+ More car manufacturing is moving towards electric... becos more consumer want it...it is not smart to think oil will the king of energy forever... it has its time .... everything has its time... Oil is over..no doubt we need oil but the demand of oil will be significantly reduce... Trust me....go propose government car park charging..i gonna tender it lol earlybird14      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 07:42) Posted: Battery? You only can change it when it is degraded. Sell it before degradation? The one buy from you won't buy good price from you, at the end waste money, waste resources( more material to be used) and more rubbish( electric components or battery are high polluted rubbish) Really benefit to environment? Or selling tactics from commercial people? earlybird14      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 07:36) Posted: First year 1 charge run 400 km, 2nd year charge run 300, 3rd year charge 200, 4 year charge run 100km. Singapore coe 10 years also Beh tahan, how about other country car can be used more than 10 years? Why hybrid car is still not popular after 10 more year in market, maintenance cost is high. More spare part to replace, costly. Hybrid dual fuel double up, more part more problem. SINGAPOREan only consider 10 year maintenance. Other country have to consider more than 10 year. The main reason to stop technology is always initial cost(purchased price) and after sales cost ( maintenance) Your smart phone, the most you use 2 year, do you maintain your phone when it is malfunction? Without warranty cover, it is same as changing a new one
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earlybird14 Supreme	08-Mar-2017 07:42        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Battery? You only can change it when it is degraded. Sell it before degradation? The one buy from you won't buy good price from you, at the end waste money, waste resources( more material to be used) and more rubbish( electric components or battery are high polluted rubbish) Really benefit to environment? Or selling tactics from commercial people? earlybird14      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 07:36) Posted: First year 1 charge run 400 km, 2nd year charge run 300, 3rd year charge 200, 4 year charge run 100km. Singapore coe 10 years also Beh tahan, how about other country car can be used more than 10 years? Why hybrid car is still not popular after 10 more year in market, maintenance cost is high. More spare part to replace, costly. Hybrid dual fuel double up, more part more problem. SINGAPOREan only consider 10 year maintenance. Other country have to consider more than 10 year. The main reason to stop technology is always initial cost(purchased price) and after sales cost ( maintenance) Your smart phone, the most you use 2 year, do you maintain your phone when it is malfunction? Without warranty cover, it is same as changing a new one. risktaker      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 07:19) Posted: After 1 year of using the same battery on my mobile.... the speed of charging it never degrade....u never use mobile right.... But the charge of the energy level degrade slightly.... as phone battery empty almost everyday The new tech yes or no.....u know theres alot of new battery technology coming out but it is not adopted... after feasible study... but the point i am making is oil is dead...... look into future... The dirty old car running on oil is slowly becoming history of mankind...
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MatrixIV Member	08-Mar-2017 07:40        MatrixIV About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	EB, What's your view for Noble today? And for the past few days, is it accumulation or distribution? Thanks and appreciate your insight. :)
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earlybird14 Supreme	08-Mar-2017 07:36        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	First year 1 charge run 400 km, 2nd year charge run 300, 3rd year charge 200, 4 year charge run 100km. Singapore coe 10 years also Beh tahan, how about other country car can be used more than 10 years? Why hybrid car is still not popular after 10 more year in market, maintenance cost is high. More spare part to replace, costly. Hybrid dual fuel double up, more part more problem. SINGAPOREan only consider 10 year maintenance. Other country have to consider more than 10 year. The main reason to stop technology is always initial cost(purchased price) and after sales cost ( maintenance) Your smart phone, the most you use 2 year, do you maintain your phone when it is malfunction? Without warranty cover, it is same as changing a new one. risktaker      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 07:19) Posted: After 1 year of using the same battery on my mobile.... the speed of charging it never degrade....u never use mobile right.... But the charge of the energy level degrade slightly.... as phone battery empty almost everyday The new tech yes or no.....u know theres alot of new battery technology coming out but it is not adopted... after feasible study... but the point i am making is oil is dead...... look into future... The dirty old car running on oil is slowly becoming history of mankind... ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:46) Posted: Indeed there is a breakthrough in battery technology which is called solid state battery. This news is only 2 days old. It takes at least 10 years to become commercially available. The same inventor of lithium-ion battery Please refer to the link http://bgr.com/2017/03/06/new-battery-technology-john-goodenough-lithium/
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risktaker Supreme	08-Mar-2017 07:19        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	After 1 year of using the same battery on my mobile.... the speed of charging it never degrade....u never use mobile right.... But the charge of the energy level degrade slightly.... as phone battery empty almost everyday The new tech yes or no.....u know theres alot of new battery technology coming out but it is not adopted... after feasible study... but the point i am making is oil is dead...... look into future... The dirty old car running on oil is slowly becoming history of mankind... ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:46) Posted: Indeed there is a breakthrough in battery technology which is called solid state battery. This news is only 2 days old. It takes at least 10 years to become commercially available. The same inventor of lithium-ion battery Please refer to the link http://bgr.com/2017/03/06/new-battery-technology-john-goodenough-lithium/ ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:33) Posted: Do you know the efficiency of the battery degrade very fast. It takes 20min to charge when it is new. it takes one hour to charge 6 months later then it takes 2 hours after one year. You shall see.
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:46        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Indeed there is a breakthrough in battery technology which is called solid state battery. This news is only 2 days old. It takes at least 10 years to become commercially available. The same inventor of lithium-ion battery Please refer to the link http://bgr.com/2017/03/06/new-battery-technology-john-goodenough-lithium/ ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:33) Posted: Do you know the efficiency of the battery degrade very fast. It takes 20min to charge when it is new. it takes one hour to charge 6 months later then it takes 2 hours after one year. You shall see. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:28) Posted: Bro pls do research la.... technology already updated .... 1 charge is 20mins n can drive 300 miles... lo
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:33        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do you know the efficiency of the battery degrade very fast. It takes 20min to charge when it is new. it takes one hour to charge 6 months later then it takes 2 hours after one year. You shall see. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:28) Posted: Bro pls do research la.... technology already updated .... 1 charge is 20mins n can drive 300 miles... lol ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:23) Posted: Until today, there is no breakthrough in battery technology. Indeed battery is the still the major bottleneck. It is all the hype only.
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TechnicalTrader Master	07-Mar-2017 23:32        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I believe many ppl also don' t know lah... really so advance! risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:28) Posted: Bro pls do research la.... technology already updated .... 1 charge is 20mins n can drive 300 miles... lol ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:23) Posted: Until today, there is no breakthrough in battery technology. Indeed battery is the still the major bottleneck. It is all the hype only.
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risktaker Supreme	07-Mar-2017 23:28        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro pls do research la.... technology already updated .... 1 charge is 20mins n can drive 300 miles... lol ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:23) Posted: Until today, there is no breakthrough in battery technology. Indeed battery is the still the major bottleneck. It is all the hype only. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:18) Posted: wrong becos ur only thinking about your oil oil oil....Solar energy can play a part .... even there is cloud the lithium battery still get charge..... Technology is evolving... dont be caveman bro
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:23        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Until today, there is no breakthrough in battery technology. Indeed battery is the still the major bottleneck. It is all the hype only. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:18) Posted: wrong becos ur only thinking about your oil oil oil....Solar energy can play a part .... even there is cloud the lithium battery still get charge..... Technology is evolving... dont be caveman bro
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TechnicalTrader Master	07-Mar-2017 23:19        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	? Everybody talk about Energy and Cars?.... No share-talk tonight? TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:52) Posted: US Market Outlook 2017 --- For Reference   How these may affect your investment strategy? US equity will highly likely perform, supported by good earnings. No point buying bonds as interest rate will keep going up. If really want to buy bonds choose good BB or B graded bonds. Energy sector will out-perform the rest. Tech stocks esp. related to on-line biz. Banks/Finance and Small Cap can also consider. Tax Cut benefit small cap more. Rate hikes 2-3 times.. March 15/6 first one. Repatriate income back to US &ndash create jobs, share buy-back, M & A &hellip Infra-structure spending --- funding not clear yet. Trump is a good negotiator don&rsquo t worry too much about his confrontational approach when dealing with China. US GDP outperform in the Western world. Tax cuts and excessive gov spending likely cap US$ rise. Commodities stocks will be good also as prices continue to improve. So AUD can consider.
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:19        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes it can but it takes at least another 10 to 20 years to achieve about 50% take up rate. South Korea and Japan have been trying very hard for the past 10 years but the take up rate is relatively low. I think it is less than 10%. mailaileh      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:12) Posted: If Hong Kong can push for electric vehicles, Singapore can too. Just a matter of govt policy. earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:07) Posted: It doesn't make sense to have electric car in a country which electric generation are from fossils fuel, like in Singapore purely gas and coal electric generation. Directly burn petrol will have lower emission as compared, burning coal or gas to heat up the steam and turn the electric turbine for electric generation or for gas engine, through power grid then to car, which has lower efficiency for power conversion. So what for electric car in Singapore since pay more for carbon tax
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risktaker Supreme	07-Mar-2017 23:18        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wrong becos ur only thinking about your oil oil oil....Solar energy can play a part .... even there is cloud the lithium battery still get charge..... Technology is evolving... dont be caveman bro
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mailaileh Veteran	07-Mar-2017 23:12        mailaileh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If Hong Kong can push for electric vehicles, Singapore can too. Just a matter of govt policy. earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:07) Posted: It doesn't make sense to have electric car in a country which electric generation are from fossils fuel, like in Singapore purely gas and coal electric generation. Directly burn petrol will have lower emission as compared, burning coal or gas to heat up the steam and turn the electric turbine for electric generation or for gas engine, through power grid then to car, which has lower efficiency for power conversion. So what for electric car in Singapore since pay more for carbon tax. ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:00) Posted: The rolling out of electric car is not so much of renewable energy but rather clean energy. This is because the world is so polluted with carbon emission. So do not mix clean energy with renewable energy but most renewable energy is clean. That why WTO has to impose carbon emission tax so as to penalize the countries that continue to use carbon emission energy. There are many countries in EU heavily subsidize people to switch to clean energy like solar energy.
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:10        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Also, electric motor is more efficient than the engine. I think efficiency of the electric motor is about 70 to 80% as compare to internal combustion engine, ICE which is about 30 to 40%. You are right to say that most of energy in ICE is converted to heat. ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:00) Posted: The rolling out of electric car is not so much of renewable energy but rather clean energy. This is because the world is so polluted with carbon emission. So do not mix clean energy with renewable energy but most renewable energy is clean. That why WTO has to impose carbon emission tax so as to penalize the countries that continue to use carbon emission energy. There are many countries in EU heavily subsidize people to switch to clean energy like solar energy. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:42) Posted: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/07/its-all-engines-go-in-europe-for-ford-says-senior-executive.html The deal makes  PSA Group Europe' s second-ranked carmaker by sales, with a 16 percent market share, Reuters reported. But a key Ford executive believes the European market will continue to see growth. " Last year we had record profitability (in Europe), with nearly 4 percent of operating margin," Jim Farley, executive vice president and president for Europe, the Middle East and Africa at Ford Motor, told CNBC on the sidelines of the Geneva Motor Show. " This is still a key market globally for new technology roll-outs like electric cars and automated vehicles, and key for Ford' s commercial vehicles," Farley said.
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earlybird14 Supreme	07-Mar-2017 23:07        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It doesn't make sense to have electric car in a country which electric generation are from fossils fuel, like in Singapore purely gas and coal electric generation. Directly burn petrol will have lower emission as compared, burning coal or gas to heat up the steam and turn the electric turbine for electric generation or for gas engine, through power grid then to car, which has lower efficiency for power conversion. So what for electric car in Singapore since pay more for carbon tax. ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 23:00) Posted: The rolling out of electric car is not so much of renewable energy but rather clean energy. This is because the world is so polluted with carbon emission. So do not mix clean energy with renewable energy but most renewable energy is clean. That why WTO has to impose carbon emission tax so as to penalize the countries that continue to use carbon emission energy. There are many countries in EU heavily subsidize people to switch to clean energy like solar energy. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:42) Posted: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/07/its-all-engines-go-in-europe-for-ford-says-senior-executive.html The deal makes  PSA Group Europe' s second-ranked carmaker by sales, with a 16 percent market share, Reuters reported. But a key Ford executive believes the European market will continue to see growth. " Last year we had record profitability (in Europe), with nearly 4 percent of operating margin," Jim Farley, executive vice president and president for Europe, the Middle East and Africa at Ford Motor, told CNBC on the sidelines of the Geneva Motor Show. " This is still a key market globally for new technology roll-outs like electric cars and automated vehicles, and key for Ford' s commercial vehicles," Farley said.
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:05        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hydro power is viable but you need to invest in huge infrastucture. China built the 3 gorges dam that flooded 3 or 4 villages and upset the whole eco-system. The Malaysia also consider building dam in East Malaysia but was under strong protest from the locals. Tidal power is not very sustainable because the wave is not very consistent especially in our sea.   TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:59) Posted: I guess any fuel that produces plenty of heat is not that efficient,  How about Hydro-electric and Tidal-electric? ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:40) Posted: The most sustainable and  efficient energy is nuclear energy but it is very risky. Also, the disposal of nuclear waste is a big issue.
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mailaileh Veteran	07-Mar-2017 23:01        mailaileh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Need proper sites and take alot of space. China already run out of place ot build more big scale hydropower plants, only left those that are currently under construction. Buy China Yangtze power if you are keen to get exposure. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:59) Posted: I guess any fuel that produces plenty of heat is not that efficient,  How about Hydro-electric and Tidal-electric? ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:40) Posted: The most sustainable and  efficient energy is nuclear energy but it is very risky. Also, the disposal of nuclear waste is a big issue.
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ehclim Elite	07-Mar-2017 23:00        ehclim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The rolling out of electric car is not so much of renewable energy but rather clean energy. This is because the world is so polluted with carbon emission. So do not mix clean energy with renewable energy but most renewable energy is clean. That why WTO has to impose carbon emission tax so as to penalize the countries that continue to use carbon emission energy. There are many countries in EU heavily subsidize people to switch to clean energy like solar energy. risktaker      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:42) Posted: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/07/its-all-engines-go-in-europe-for-ford-says-senior-executive.html The deal makes  PSA Group Europe' s second-ranked carmaker by sales, with a 16 percent market share, Reuters reported. But a key Ford executive believes the European market will continue to see growth. " Last year we had record profitability (in Europe), with nearly 4 percent of operating margin," Jim Farley, executive vice president and president for Europe, the Middle East and Africa at Ford Motor, told CNBC on the sidelines of the Geneva Motor Show. " This is still a key market globally for new technology roll-outs like electric cars and automated vehicles, and key for Ford' s commercial vehicles," Farley said.
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TechnicalTrader Master	07-Mar-2017 22:59        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I guess any fuel that produces plenty of heat is not that efficient,  How about Hydro-electric and Tidal-electric? ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:40) Posted: The most sustainable and  efficient energy is nuclear energy but it is very risky. Also, the disposal of nuclear waste is a big issue. ehclim      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 22:33) Posted: The renewable or sustainable energy at least takes another 10 to 20 years before it becomes commercially viable. The reason why the world is promoting renewable energy is because the fossil fuel will run out in about 20 to 30 years time. Do you know how much energy you are able to harvest from wind or solar energy. It is so minute that not cost effective. Btw, I was a electrical engineer by profession.
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