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YZJFH - potentially rewarding
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eddyeddy
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28-Nov-2023 13:59
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Why. no more SBB ? | ||||
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 13:57
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Lol Fact is SBB running out soon, yzjfh would be defendless once it exhausted SSB. Current SBB at 9.5% no escape. But it gona get ugly now look like bb trying hard to exhaust SSB. Again don buy don average down wait for Ren move once SSB kick the buck. Gona be exciting . | ||||
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pkli899
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28-Nov-2023 13:44
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一 厢 情 愿 的 想 法 ! 有 人 相 信 吗 ? |
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 13:41
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They might be trying to deplete SSB bullet, see if today got SBB at 0.315 and 0.32.
Now SBB till now is ar 9.5%, 3q at 8.8%.
Look like bb also wanna yzjfh to be privatise lol.
They taking Ren YL threat to buy open market once SBB exhausted seriously.
Most likely they also collect lots cheaply as they whack down yzjfh from it peak.
Now they whacking down SBB .
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 13:34
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7.5m sell at 0.315 most likely a 10mil sell block as it still got 3mil+ left on 0.315 sell. Think bb trying to exhaust SBB since only left like 20mil spare stock ammo before hitting 10% limit Then SBB cannot be revived in next AGM as they need to be cancel. Bb forcing Ren YL hand lol. It all shorting on borrowed stocks, they doing squeeze on SBB. | ||||
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ss2017.
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28-Nov-2023 13:31
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After 1pm noticed that manipulators enjoying buy sell ownself big big.
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ss2017.
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28-Nov-2023 12:48
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Don't buy big until you see daily volume raised, say to15m.
When buy small one must be able to hold because you buy from manipulators' sell queue, they can withdraw buy queue anytime and sell down big to eliminate weak players.
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 11:44
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Best stay away as current yzjfh stock price distress caused by US China trade war.
Anything that is china based, America would whack it with no reason, putting companies
in blacklist etc.
Currently tech war already claim lot of china based tech companies and american companies.
Market scared they escalate it to financial war.
Whack blind on both side, eye for eye tooth for tooth drama.
Even if yzkfh full year 2023 good, guess stock.price stay low till Old Ren began it open market purchase to
force out shortists bb.
For now watch watch only, hand don get ichy.
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John210119
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28-Nov-2023 11:11
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I am at a loss and want to average down at better price. I based on simple and quick analysis and make asumption company has cash to tight through this crisis. So want to hear what other people feel. If those vested long term also want to give up, then I think it is probably right time to buy... Lol
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pasttime
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28-Nov-2023 10:59
Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou." |
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don' t buy or sell.  let these group of market maker leave this counter. else difficult for the price to raise as their drag is too huge. to profitable for them and keep lowering price to reduce cost. one group cry hot one group cry cold. aim is to get you to trade.sure loose one in short term. leave this counter, in time it will raise.  the volume already tell very few real seller or buyer.  |
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pkli899
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28-Nov-2023 10:06
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老 王 卖 瓜 ......haha. | ||||
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 10:06
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Expect 2h 23 DI income to stand at 120m. There woukd ve provision writeback as npl get tecovered. Just to see if net profit can hit 300m, 1h net profit at 162m not tall order to beat. | ||||
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 10:03
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And i was spot on most of time lol. Ren do a cheap skate GO and >90% subscrbe then those who average too high take losses lol.
Profitable china companies alway do this kind of thing, it hapoen a lot during last 20 years.
Uncertain china outlook don load don average down hold fast and wait out.
Anyway 2023 dividend would be higher if no provision in 2h.
3Q business update everything look norm, no increase in NPL, DI reduced to 2b , 900m debt repaid
. Everything look norm but i 2x cautious on it.
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sgng123
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28-Nov-2023 09:51
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Just keep out of market, lot of uncertainty. China recovery very patchy even the expert bb away waiting for confirmation on Yzjfh long term profitabilty before pushing it to fair value. No such thing as buying at lowest sell at highest, as long make money is best. | ||||
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MambaFinancial89
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28-Nov-2023 09:49
Yells: "Be greedy when others are fearful. " |
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It appears that regardless of any initiatives the company does to enhance shareholder value (e.g., buybacks, increasing disclosure, media reports, analyst reports, CPF investment scheme, insider buybacks), the stock only goes one way, down. It has been a long, painful experience as a shareholder but I remain hopeful that the FY23 results announcement and accompanying dividend will be the next catalyst. Maybe you can wait till Feb 24 to enter. 
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pkli899
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28-Nov-2023 09:44
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Ah John, u posted a very difficult question leh. U think it did better yet u don' t add now when price is still low. If 2H turned out as what u predicted, price surely go up. Then u buy? At higher price? Not sure what is your rationale? Sorry for being so direct. |
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John210119
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28-Nov-2023 09:22
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Just a quick poll for your opinions. The DI has reached 50% long term target and $1B has been transferred to SG before the target date. NPL, or rather the consumed/utilization provision is a lot lower than the forecasted provision. NPL recovery is at least 90% and sometimes more than the principal. So I actually think the company is doing a lot better than I expected in the challenging time except the share price keep dropping... lol. My question is do you think the business will pivot from here and will only do better or do you think I should wait for 2H result before I add more position? I dont want to miss the usual year end and CNY rally and so just seeing the general sentiments on this stock from those vested. | ||||
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vicloo
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27-Nov-2023 21:25
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When not sure about the stock, best not to buy more just wait 1st till clear picture out 👍
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eddyeddy
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27-Nov-2023 20:51
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As China?s embattled shadow banking giant Zhongzhi Enterprise Group faces a criminal probe, lawyers and analysts are assessing the damage to investors. One estimate puts that at about US$56 billion (S$74.9 billion).
More than three quarters of investor cash would be lost, with just 100 billion yuan (S$18.7 billion) being recovered from debt of as much as 460 billion yuan, according to one scenario outlined by Mr Ying Yue, a lawyer at Leaqual Law Firm in Shanghai. He expects a slow and drawn-out court process, based on the experience of other cases. |
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ss2017.
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27-Nov-2023 20:48
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After being immersed in the mkt for so long, our opinion remains as just opinion. In reality mkt behaves on its own way, regardless the synchrony of our opinion.
Normally sometimes as opposed to nay sayers we say it out loud positively is to exercise law of attraction when we think YZJFH price will finally reaching the finishing line, to encourage each other... for long holders. Respond to what the mkt telling us. So far the mkt does not show the intention of making general offer or alike. So follow the mkt way, not the monkey inside our brain. If we can manage our mind we will feel more happy. 😁 |
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