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junction Master	25-Dec-2015 19:00        junction About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	These analysts would probably have sold and want others to help push the price down so they can collect at lower price.   Anyone who take their analysis as gospel truth is definitely very green. Qanghoo      ( Date: 24-Dec-2015 00:02) Posted: I also think crap.  Recall that in the past, when local economy seem to flounder a bit, so many research reports also written with negative bias abt the local banks.  But those doom reports were doomed to be off the mark. Come end 2016, let' s see how this report stands out.  lglg666      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 16:51) Posted: Crap!! another one down the tube
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ecekca Elite	24-Dec-2015 09:16        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	doubt so Moomoomoo      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 20:25) Posted: Don't worry..I know it will go up but the question is when. 2017 first quarter to hit 10. Reasonable?
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Qanghoo Supreme	24-Dec-2015 09:13        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Swee liao.  But still way off for brothers here tp 10+ leh.  Anyway 10% above tp of the report below.  No wonder some funds have such poor performance records.  bishan22      ( Date: 24-Dec-2015 09:11) Posted: Swee boh...... bishan22      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 09:20) Posted: Open eyes.... lai leow.......
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bishan22 Supreme	24-Dec-2015 09:11        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Swee boh...... bishan22      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 09:20) Posted: Open eyes.... lai leow....... Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 11:40) Posted: No eye see
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Qanghoo Supreme	24-Dec-2015 00:02        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I also think crap.  Recall that in the past, when local economy seem to flounder a bit, so many research reports also written with negative bias abt the local banks.  But those doom reports were doomed to be off the mark. Come end 2016, let' s see how this report stands out.  lglg666      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 16:51) Posted: Crap!! another one down the tube. FaceTheFact      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 16:43) Posted: Hope you have seen this report ... For info. Pse dyodd. Banks: Singapore bank share prices look set to end 2015 in negative territory. However, CLSA believes a further de-rating is likely in 2016. The sector is trading at an average 1.3x trailing P/TCE for high-single-digit ROE and negative earnings momentum. House remains Underweight the sector but downgrade UOB to U-PF from O-PF (TP: $18.90), OCBC to SELL from U-PF (TP: $8.00) and DBS to SELL from U-PF (TP: $15.00). UOB remains its preferred pick among the three banks, while DBS is least preferred. Like 2015, the focus next year will likely be on revenue and asset quality headwinds due to the unsupportive macro environment. However, CLSA believes asset quality will take centre stage with revenue challenges acting as runner up. Singapore, HK, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are likely to experience higher NPLs while India will remain challenging. Margin expansion will likely be held back by the divergent rate environment and competition while non-interest income is likely to be low-single digit as activity remains weak and one-off gains should largely be non-existent.  Meanwhile, expense growth will likely equal or outstrip revenue growth due to investments in staff, technology and compliance. The combination of the above plus negative-mark-to-markets on liquid asset holdings and FX mean that book value and capital progression will likely be limited.   CLSA expects regulation overhang to continue until at least the end of 2016.
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Moomoomoo Senior	23-Dec-2015 20:25        Moomoomoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don't worry..I know it will go up but the question is when. 2017 first quarter to hit 10. Reasonable?
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lglg666 Supreme	23-Dec-2015 16:51        lglg666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Crap!! another one down the tube. FaceTheFact      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 16:43) Posted: Hope you have seen this report ... For info. Pse dyodd. Banks: Singapore bank share prices look set to end 2015 in negative territory. However, CLSA believes a further de-rating is likely in 2016. The sector is trading at an average 1.3x trailing P/TCE for high-single-digit ROE and negative earnings momentum. House remains Underweight the sector but downgrade UOB to U-PF from O-PF (TP: $18.90), OCBC to SELL from U-PF (TP: $8.00) and DBS to SELL from U-PF (TP: $15.00). UOB remains its preferred pick among the three banks, while DBS is least preferred. Like 2015, the focus next year will likely be on revenue and asset quality headwinds due to the unsupportive macro environment. However, CLSA believes asset quality will take centre stage with revenue challenges acting as runner up. Singapore, HK, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are likely to experience higher NPLs while India will remain challenging. Margin expansion will likely be held back by the divergent rate environment and competition while non-interest income is likely to be low-single digit as activity remains weak and one-off gains should largely be non-existent.  Meanwhile, expense growth will likely equal or outstrip revenue growth due to investments in staff, technology and compliance. The combination of the above plus negative-mark-to-markets on liquid asset holdings and FX mean that book value and capital progression will likely be limited.   CLSA expects regulation overhang to continue until at least the end of 2016.
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FaceTheFact Member	23-Dec-2015 16:43        FaceTheFact About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope you have seen this report ... For info. Pse dyodd. Banks: Singapore bank share prices look set to end 2015 in negative territory. However, CLSA believes a further de-rating is likely in 2016. The sector is trading at an average 1.3x trailing P/TCE for high-single-digit ROE and negative earnings momentum. House remains Underweight the sector but downgrade UOB to U-PF from O-PF (TP: $18.90), OCBC to SELL from U-PF (TP: $8.00) and DBS to SELL from U-PF (TP: $15.00). UOB remains its preferred pick among the three banks, while DBS is least preferred. Like 2015, the focus next year will likely be on revenue and asset quality headwinds due to the unsupportive macro environment. However, CLSA believes asset quality will take centre stage with revenue challenges acting as runner up. Singapore, HK, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are likely to experience higher NPLs while India will remain challenging. Margin expansion will likely be held back by the divergent rate environment and competition while non-interest income is likely to be low-single digit as activity remains weak and one-off gains should largely be non-existent.  Meanwhile, expense growth will likely equal or outstrip revenue growth due to investments in staff, technology and compliance. The combination of the above plus negative-mark-to-markets on liquid asset holdings and FX mean that book value and capital progression will likely be limited.   CLSA expects regulation overhang to continue until at least the end of 2016.
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lglg666 Supreme	23-Dec-2015 16:25        lglg666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hopefully can cover my losses in Linc and SingPost. Just need to run up 10c lol. Shouldn't be a problem, if DJ can be green green again.
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Moomoomoo Senior	23-Dec-2015 16:02        Moomoomoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lai liao meh bro? Still a long long way to go....haiz bishan22      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 09:20) Posted: Open eyes.... lai leow....... Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 11:40) Posted: No eye see
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lglg666 Supreme	23-Dec-2015 15:31        lglg666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No choice....go for the index shares, too many craps penny and some are bear traps. Hopeful can give me some profits lol.
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gsasgx Member	23-Dec-2015 09:35        gsasgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	still long way to go.... wed thurs upppp, friday slide... ocbc ocbc .... sigh... bishan22      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 09:20) Posted: Open eyes.... lai leow....... Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 11:40) Posted: No eye see
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bishan22 Supreme	23-Dec-2015 09:20        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Open eyes.... lai leow....... Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 11:40) Posted: No eye see! Qanghoo      ( Date: 21-Dec-2015 21:16) Posted: Today STI close red, so how to up much?  If STI up to 3,200, maybe this one 11SGD.
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Qanghoo Supreme	23-Dec-2015 06:53        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SPH is still a very fat cash cow n an indistructable monopoly.  Hence, it' d remain a strong defensive play when the rest of the mkt cave in.  But there' s not much upside potential either unless it' s property business grows noticeably.  I can' t see the media business growing much going forward.  In the cyber age, where info flows become so pervasive online, hard to contain n provides the masses with far wider reading choices, local media providers are likely to have limited growth opportunities.  Moreover, in lean times, where A& P costs-cutting becomes a major concern for them, SPH' s margins cld be crimped further.  So, if u ask me, 4.20 for SPH cld well be barely attainable, unless this dead mkt turns bull n not just continue to bull-sh*t.  ecekca      ( Date: 23-Dec-2015 04:33) Posted: SPH is a defensive stock that why people are putting $$ in Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 17:50) Posted: Ocbc still sleeping while SPH already up close to 4% since XD. Think it will take awhile for Ocbc to get back to 10.
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ecekca Elite	23-Dec-2015 04:33        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SPH is a defensive stock that why people are putting $$ in Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 17:50) Posted: Ocbc still sleeping while SPH already up close to 4% since XD. Think it will take awhile for Ocbc to get back to 10. Moomoomoo      ( Date: 18-Dec-2015 15:53) Posted: True.... I don't trust what those analysts saying bank will ching after fed hike. True enough..look at the market after the hike...it went opposite direction. Heng I shifted to SPH. For ocbc I think it will take a long time for it to recover back.
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Qanghoo Supreme	23-Dec-2015 00:08        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sadly, OCBC n the other banks will be impacted by STI, being a ' tool' to impact the STI if uo get what I mean.  That is what STI is all abt.  Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 17:50) Posted: Ocbc still sleeping while SPH already up close to 4% since XD. Think it will take awhile for Ocbc to get back to 10. Moomoomoo      ( Date: 18-Dec-2015 15:53) Posted: True.... I don't trust what those analysts saying bank will ching after fed hike. True enough..look at the market after the hike...it went opposite direction. Heng I shifted to SPH. For ocbc I think it will take a long time for it to recover back.
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qwerty91 Member	23-Dec-2015 00:02        qwerty91 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	patience does pay off. Just wait. enjoy divdend you are not wrong even to by at 10.00 Moomoomoo      ( Date: 22-Dec-2015 17:50) Posted: Ocbc still sleeping while SPH already up close to 4% since XD. Think it will take awhile for Ocbc to get back to 10. Moomoomoo      ( Date: 18-Dec-2015 15:53) Posted: True.... I don't trust what those analysts saying bank will ching after fed hike. True enough..look at the market after the hike...it went opposite direction. Heng I shifted to SPH. For ocbc I think it will take a long time for it to recover back.
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Moomoomoo Senior	22-Dec-2015 17:50        Moomoomoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ocbc still sleeping while SPH already up close to 4% since XD. Think it will take awhile for Ocbc to get back to 10. Moomoomoo      ( Date: 18-Dec-2015 15:53) Posted: True.... I don't trust what those analysts saying bank will ching after fed hike. True enough..look at the market after the hike...it went opposite direction. Heng I shifted to SPH. For ocbc I think it will take a long time for it to recover back. gsasgx      ( Date: 18-Dec-2015 13:27) Posted: still think that it is very hard for ocbc to be able to climb out of the $8... plus...
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Moomoomoo Senior	22-Dec-2015 11:40        Moomoomoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No eye see! Qanghoo      ( Date: 21-Dec-2015 21:16) Posted: Today STI close red, so how to up much?  If STI up to 3,200, maybe this one 11SGD.  investshare      ( Date: 21-Dec-2015 18:03) Posted: so now rate hike, why still price not up??
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Qanghoo Supreme	21-Dec-2015 21:16        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today STI close red, so how to up much?  If STI up to 3,200, maybe this one 11SGD.  investshare      ( Date: 21-Dec-2015 18:03) Posted: so now rate hike, why still price not up??
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