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laksaman57 Supreme	08-Oct-2017 09:29        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.slashgear.com/fuel-cell-safety-why-hydrogen-cars-like-hondas-clarity-are-safe-19479069/amp/
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Observers Elite	08-Oct-2017 07:41        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In the current cheap money (paris) climate, it is much easier to get funding for R& D in green sustainable energy (hydrogen fuel cell) than fossil(LNG). But I have a feeling all these money thrown into R& D of hydrogen fuel cells to make them safer, more efficient (i.e. less leakage during gas transfers) and rugged will ultimately benefit the LNG and LPG industry.  laksaman57      ( Date: 08-Oct-2017 00:06) Posted: http://www.todayonline.com/commentary/hydrogen-more-sustainable-bet-spores-energy-future
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laksaman57 Supreme	08-Oct-2017 00:06        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.todayonline.com/commentary/hydrogen-more-sustainable-bet-spores-energy-future
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laksaman57 Supreme	08-Oct-2017 00:03        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.protononsite.com/hydrogen-fueling Observers      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 22:19) Posted: I think hydrogen fuel cell even harder to implement infrastructure wise. If compressed gas fuel tanks was competitive, then lpg and lng would have taken off for cars in a big scale already. Nowadays, lpg and lng for vehicles are mostly buses (likely with government subsidy to reduce pollution), and more recently for shipping esp lng carriers as they could use the gas they carry to burn as fuel. And wasn' t there an issue with exploding compressed gas tanks in Singapore earlier in the year? with taxis I think? Last time there was a fleet of these lng taxis, then suddenly all disappeared already. Maybe maintanence was a nightmare. laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 19:15) Posted: https://www.theengineer.co.uk/alstom-liverpool-hydrogen-train-trials
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Observers Elite	07-Oct-2017 22:19        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think hydrogen fuel cell even harder to implement infrastructure wise. If compressed gas fuel tanks was competitive, then lpg and lng would have taken off for cars in a big scale already. Nowadays, lpg and lng for vehicles are mostly buses (likely with government subsidy to reduce pollution), and more recently for shipping esp lng carriers as they could use the gas they carry to burn as fuel. And wasn' t there an issue with exploding compressed gas tanks in Singapore earlier in the year? with taxis I think? Last time there was a fleet of these lng taxis, then suddenly all disappeared already. Maybe maintanence was a nightmare. laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 19:15) Posted: https://www.theengineer.co.uk/alstom-liverpool-hydrogen-train-trials/ laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 19:10) Posted: http://www.automobilemag.com/news/a-ride-around-the-track-in-toyotas-hydrogen-fuel-cell-powered-semi-truck
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laksaman57 Supreme	07-Oct-2017 19:45        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hydrogen fuel cell for ship http://www.cruiseandferry.net/articles/viking-cruises-plans-the-worlds-first-hydrogen-powered-cruise-ship#.Wdi90nQZ7qA
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laksaman57 Supreme	07-Oct-2017 19:27        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Hydrogen fuel cell for power plant http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/808831.html
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laksaman57 Supreme	07-Oct-2017 19:15        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.theengineer.co.uk/alstom-liverpool-hydrogen-train-trials/ laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 19:10) Posted: http://www.automobilemag.com/news/a-ride-around-the-track-in-toyotas-hydrogen-fuel-cell-powered-semi-truck/ Observers      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 17:05) Posted: I guess the problem is the whole world can' t electrify at the same time given the limited resources at hand. Some developing countries don' t even have street lamps, and you want them to come out with money to build EV infrastructure? Only the rich (and crude oil starved) ones will pay the premium to push for electrification. China (1st and 2nd tier cities) and Japan comes to mind - then again, Japan doesnt really have a pollution problem with their combustion engines do they? USA(Shale), OPEC nations? Good luck with that, esp since now EVs are still heavily subsidised and combustions heavily taxed. Maybe in some rich US cities you will hear of the ban (political reasons) but nation-wide would be unlikely until EVs get cheaper and better. I suspect pulling out of that paris climate had always been on their books, even before Trump got elected. They just needed a fall-guy (Trump?) to get it done with minimal political capital expenditure by either Republicans or Democrats in Congress. I guess as far as Krisenergy is concern, the question is, how fast will world-wide electrification take place. Even then, there are still long haul trucks, buses and construction vehicles that would require huge batteries because of their power consumption moving heavy loads over long, undulating distances. Batteries will have to shrink in size and price by leaps and bounds before full electrification could take place. I think hybrids will be here to stay for some time
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laksaman57 Supreme	07-Oct-2017 19:10        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.automobilemag.com/news/a-ride-around-the-track-in-toyotas-hydrogen-fuel-cell-powered-semi-truck/ Observers      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 17:05) Posted: I guess the problem is the whole world can' t electrify at the same time given the limited resources at hand. Some developing countries don' t even have street lamps, and you want them to come out with money to build EV infrastructure? Only the rich (and crude oil starved) ones will pay the premium to push for electrification. China (1st and 2nd tier cities) and Japan comes to mind - then again, Japan doesnt really have a pollution problem with their combustion engines do they? USA(Shale), OPEC nations? Good luck with that, esp since now EVs are still heavily subsidised and combustions heavily taxed. Maybe in some rich US cities you will hear of the ban (political reasons) but nation-wide would be unlikely until EVs get cheaper and better. I suspect pulling out of that paris climate had always been on their books, even before Trump got elected. They just needed a fall-guy (Trump?) to get it done with minimal political capital expenditure by either Republicans or Democrats in Congress. I guess as far as Krisenergy is concern, the question is, how fast will world-wide electrification take place. Even then, there are still long haul trucks, buses and construction vehicles that would require huge batteries because of their power consumption moving heavy loads over long, undulating distances. Batteries will have to shrink in size and price by leaps and bounds before full electrification could take place. I think hybrids will be here to stay for some time. laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 11:36) Posted: ...and fuel cell https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/10/02/gm-electric-vehicles/722896001
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Observers Elite	07-Oct-2017 17:26        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Didn' t they just sign the Cambodia deal? Going to be more CAPEX going forward. In other words, probably no dividends and a lot of cash outflow. andychew.eh      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 17:17) Posted: Oil price is going to remain low at + - US$ 50 for a long time. Both Cathay and SIA made wrong bets in their oil hedging and made huge losses . Even with the OPEC reducing output, oil price didnt shoot up. You know why ? Because everytime oil price touches US$55 to 60 US will ramp up their Shale Oil production. I suggest buy Keppel instead of Kris. SSH is selling at below 12 cts means the short term propects ( next 2 qtrs ) of Kris will not be very rosy. Next Qtr results for Kris very crucial. If bad, may go below 10 cts. If Ok, will be 11 to 13 cts. If good will be 13 to 15 cts.
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andychew.eh Senior	07-Oct-2017 17:17        andychew.eh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oil price is going to remain low at + - US$ 50 for a long time. Both Cathay and SIA made wrong bets in their oil hedging and made huge losses . Even with the OPEC reducing output, oil price didnt shoot up. You know why ? Because everytime oil price touches US$55 to 60 US will ramp up their Shale Oil production. I suggest buy Keppel instead of Kris. SSH is selling at below 12 cts means the short term propects ( next 2 qtrs ) of Kris will not be very rosy. Next Qtr results for Kris very crucial. If bad, may go below 10 cts. If Ok, will be 11 to 13 cts. If good will be 13 to 15 cts.
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Observers Elite	07-Oct-2017 17:05        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I guess the problem is the whole world can' t electrify at the same time given the limited resources at hand. Some developing countries don' t even have street lamps, and you want them to come out with money to build EV infrastructure? Only the rich (and crude oil starved) ones will pay the premium to push for electrification. China (1st and 2nd tier cities) and Japan comes to mind - then again, Japan doesnt really have a pollution problem with their combustion engines do they? USA(Shale), OPEC nations? Good luck with that, esp since now EVs are still heavily subsidised and combustions heavily taxed. Maybe in some rich US cities you will hear of the ban (political reasons) but nation-wide would be unlikely until EVs get cheaper and better. I suspect pulling out of that paris climate had always been on their books, even before Trump got elected. They just needed a fall-guy (Trump?) to get it done with minimal political capital expenditure by either Republicans or Democrats in Congress. I guess as far as Krisenergy is concern, the question is, how fast will world-wide electrification take place. Even then, there are still long haul trucks, buses and construction vehicles that would require huge batteries because of their power consumption moving heavy loads over long, undulating distances. Batteries will have to shrink in size and price by leaps and bounds before full electrification could take place. I think hybrids will be here to stay for some time. laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 11:36) Posted: ...and fuel cell https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/10/02/gm-electric-vehicles/722896001/ andychew.eh      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 10:53) Posted: Dont be too optimistic on this . The future will be EV and Solar Energy and more renewable energy like Wind Farm Energy. UK just announced by so and so "All vehicles in UK will be EV" . China most likely will start with Beijing 1st as they want Beijing to be less polluted as the top leaders are residing in Beijing.
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laksaman57 Supreme	07-Oct-2017 11:36        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	...and fuel cell https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/10/02/gm-electric-vehicles/722896001/ andychew.eh      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 10:53) Posted: Dont be too optimistic on this . The future will be EV and Solar Energy and more renewable energy like Wind Farm Energy. UK just announced by so and so "All vehicles in UK will be EV" . China most likely will start with Beijing 1st as they want Beijing to be less polluted as the top leaders are residing in Beijing.
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Volmax Elite	07-Oct-2017 11:36        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha, for that to effectively take place would be many many years down the road, I would be old by then. Oil producing countries will continue to pump oil as long as it is profitable, that their revenue! andychew.eh      ( Date: 07-Oct-2017 10:53) Posted: Dont be too optimistic on this . The future will be EV and Solar Energy and more renewable energy like Wind Farm Energy. UK just announced by so and so "All vehicles in UK will be EV" . China most likely will start with Beijing 1st as they want Beijing to be less polluted as the top leaders are residing in Beijing.
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andychew.eh Senior	07-Oct-2017 10:53        andychew.eh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont be too optimistic on this . The future will be EV and Solar Energy and more renewable energy like Wind Farm Energy. UK just announced by so and so "All vehicles in UK will be EV" . China most likely will start with Beijing 1st as they want Beijing to be less polluted as the top leaders are residing in Beijing.
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Volmax Elite	07-Oct-2017 10:49        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This one must have the same view like Temasek, holding for the LONG TERM! Short term may see 15c if crude can penetrate and stay above 55.
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Superkilat Elite	07-Oct-2017 08:01        Superkilat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fun disappoint me. My half of my wealth is with this baby now. Will increase my holdings if I want to shift further my funds.
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michaeltan Master	06-Oct-2017 22:19        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They are the bigest shareholder 40%. By adding another 10% more will be the controller. Suggest you go and read today SGX announcement.   Superkilat      ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 22:04) Posted: How much are their stake in percent? Are they the major shareholders?
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Superkilat Elite	06-Oct-2017 22:04        Superkilat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How much are their stake in percent? Are they the major shareholders?
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michaeltan Master	06-Oct-2017 21:29        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t be too upset and easily perturbed. The company fundamental has not changed. Look at the production over 5 years. In fact the company has made a tremendous improvement over year on year growth. The problem is because of low oil price. The price was plunging from USD $100+ to now merely USD $50+, must have patience and bear with it. Temasek and Keppel will not simply give up the investment just like that without answer. This is in Singapore and not an investment in other country.         Superkilat      ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 19:59) Posted: Waste my money from sino Grandness and vested here.
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