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Demostation
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11-Jun-2016 09:51
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Ya. converted shares that are discounted based on 20 to 30% on undetermined price will kill the share of the   company when sold at its lowest after a spate of short selling that already depressed the price, thereby only helping the short sellers associated or not associated with the funders and the funders themselves, without regards for existing shareholders plight .   Directors should not shoot their own feet.   They should never be tempted to open their doors in the night.   Short selling already cause plenty of trouble for any company to maintain price stability, then getting a small loan and give away millions of convertibles at deep discount kills the company.   The two things are not equal.   The short-sellers only use a spade to dump the sand at your back yard, but the convertibles funders are using excavators to dump the sand there.   The former still allows you to walk in your backyard albeit with a little discomfort, but the later covers up the entrance to the whole house.
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HazardKoh
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11-Jun-2016 00:10
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shares conversion is a death trap. Look at all the share trading at 0.1 cents becos of this. The lender gives u $ and are issued a huge chunk of shares at a discount  and they can then sell the shares immediately. They do this by trunches. Every time they earn 20-30% but the dilution of shares and the flooding of shares in the market means the price will tank. Many examples.. I wonder why the company opt for this type of funding..
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Demostation
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10-Jun-2016 23:16
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This kind of funding is no good for shareholders.   Only the funders laugh all the way to the banks.   Many of the micro pennies are flooded with shares from the conversion that yield the " lender/financier" 20 to 30% profit immediately or shortly the deal is executed, but leaving shareholders dilution and tanking share prices that seldom able to pick up even after long period of time.   It is indeed a " death spiral" offer of funds to the ailing or needy company.   SGX or MAS should study the implication and make due recommendations to companies in need of funding.   In fact allowing companies themselves to sell shares on itheir own would be a better deal for shareholders.   They should make use of rights issues or other alternative such as non-convertible perpetual bonds that do not dilute shares of the companies concerned. 
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sheerluck
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10-Jun-2016 21:26
Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you" |
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Since WCORP days really.  AOF ELN is the supremo.  Sure win note.  AOF already jiababa liao from the market during that RTO period.  Contel/WCORP shareholders then footed the bill. Yuuzoo/GEM better dont fall into the same situation. Never say never.
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TanSiBeiKu
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10-Jun-2016 20:14
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Friend, seems like you have been following this since Contel days.  The " toxic notes" were already history and after conversion, Mr TCW only owned less than 3%. I believe he has liquidate his holdings long long time ago.  And it has been 2 years since the Management trying to recover the $$ owned by Wcorp. They should engage JMS Roger to collect the debts hor. haahaaa
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sheerluck
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10-Jun-2016 19:22
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http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/banking-finance/singapore-based-firm-starts-fund-to-buy-death-spiral-convertibles Singapore-based firm starts fund to buy ' death spiral' convertiblesSuch bonds get bad rap for dilutive nature but Advance Capital says fund takes on huge risks partnering issuers in dire straitsJun 10, 20165:50 AM Singapore A FINANCIER that specialises in a controversial form of convertible financing has launched its first fund to public clients, hoping to benefit from tight capital raising conditions for smaller companies. Advance Capital Partners is marketing its Advance Opportunities Fund I to high net worth individuals and institutional investors. The firm and its fund specialises in convertible bonds that have been called " death spiral convertibles" because of their dilutive impact on the underlying shares. Under Advance Capital' s programme, a listed company that is in need of funds will issue to Advance Capital convertible notes that are convertible into new shares of the company at a fixed discount to the current market price. Because the notes set the conversion discount, and not the price, some notes have the potential to create a runaway negative impact on the underlying stock as each round of conversion gets even more dilutive. Advance Capital has previously made such deals with Attilan Group (the former Asiasons Capital), Elektromotive Group, Yuuzoo Corp, Cacola Furniture International and OLS Enterprise. Other firms that are active in such programmes include Value Capital Asset Management, which has made deals with Annica Holdings, ISR Capital, Magnus Energy Group and LionGold Corp. Given the high cost of such capital, the convertibles are usually used by companies that are in relatively dire need for cash, although the firm is hoping to also strike deals with healthier companies. " We are entering a phase in the economic cycle where the strategy that' s adopted by this fund works the best," Advance Capital adviser Geoffrey Ng told potential investors at a marketing session in Singapore. " The economies of Asia are slowing and slowing quite drastically, and more importantly, it' s the access to capital. Access to capital by a lot of companies is now starting to be a challenge, especially in the space that we play in, which is the small and mid-cap companies." The fund has an initial seed capital of US$10 million, and is targeting US$50 million for its first close, and US$80 million for a future second close. The fund is targeting a return of 25 per cent per year after fees, and Advance Capital founder Tan Choon Wee said that he has a US$200 million pipeline of potential deals from around Asia that could become assets for the fund. Advance Capital does not intend to hold the convertible bonds to maturity - Mr Ng told The Business Times that the bonds typically carry only a nominal coupon that is insufficient to cover the credit risk of the issuer. Instead, Advance Capital prefers to convert the notes into shares, and to sell the shares within a few days of conversion for a profit. While Advance Capital is exposed to the risk of default from the bond issuers, it is more concerned about the liquidity of the underlying stock. Mr Tan said: " The risk is when we do a drawdown and have certain notes exposed . . . and the company' s stock gets suspended overnight. That' s the biggest risk we face." Advance Capital is also fighting criticism that the kind of financing provided by the firm can be extremely lopsided in its favour, and highly costly for the issuers' existing shareholders. For example, the notes that Advance Capital holds are always convertible into equity at a discount to the prevailing market price, giving the firm an instant profit upon conversion. If the borrower defaults, Advance Capital does not have to convert its bonds, and can therefore rank ahead of equity holders as a creditor. And if Advance Capital ever needs to influence certain shareholder votes, or even take over a company, it may have enough shares that it can acquire through conversion to get its way. " We' ve only been caught once, whereby the company got delisted," Mr Tan told potential investors at a marketing event in Singapore. " And even then, also, we were the single largest shareholder, and today we control that company." Mr Tan stressed that his programmes include safeguards for issuers. Advance Capital also needs to be seen as a partner for its borrowers if it is to continue finding deals for its funds. " Key for me is building my reputation and track record," he said. " We don' t want to be seen as predatory, so we try to be as fair as we can be but at the same time containing the risk for my investors." But Advance Capital will ultimately still have to protect its investment. " We are the ones coming up with the money," Mr Tan said. " It' s capital at risk for us. Don' t say we' re cheating anyone. We' re putting our money where our mouth is." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those who had followed Yuuzoo from since WCORP RTO day can identify key people mentioned here.  Nothing to do with Yuuzoo now I hope but some insight into how these fund operates straight from the horse' s mouth.  If anyone still so simple-minded to think funds come means they are investing for the long term, think again. DYDD. ps.  Thought Yuuzoo said WCORP stll owe them money?  Turned into bad debt liao?  Write off? |
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ruready
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10-Jun-2016 16:52
Yells: "Follow the micro penny , May be this is the last train" |
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Buy for next marke close , good next sfter market close , Monday market GAP up | ||||
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golden_SGX
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10-Jun-2016 16:10
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VERY FISHY @ 178 .... its buy up instead of sell down ! |
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andysim83
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10-Jun-2016 14:57
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yes agree with you...if they cannt resolve the audting...their share wont be above 0.2....
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golden_SGX
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10-Jun-2016 14:50
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many also dare not to buy .... another news on its auditing will drop back to 160. don' t take risk to buy.
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Demostation
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10-Jun-2016 13:01
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I won' t dare to short this counter after so many tie ups already.   If money starts to materialize, and news pour out, then can get caught.   I cannot take the risk to short.
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golden_SGX
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10-Jun-2016 11:05
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friday is shortists day ..... short it down !
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Demostation
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10-Jun-2016 10:18
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Wah, your timing real good man. Starting to make some gains already..
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TanSiBeiKu
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10-Jun-2016 10:07
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Wah Lau Eh... Today Cheerleaders all Bo Zho Kang.. I re-renter at 180, help me to cheer up to 187 pleasssss. 
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Demostation
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10-Jun-2016 09:54
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The news created by Google alert, not me. One thing everyone should have discovered that there is very little players interested in Yuuzoo anymore.  
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andysim83
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10-Jun-2016 09:51
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haha creating news to cover up their auditors report...how long do they need to find another 1...without it...very hard to fly high....
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Demostation
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10-Jun-2016 08:39
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SG Dealbook: YuuZoo-SportsHero pact, VGO in RTO deal, Sarine buys Diamining Read more at: http://www.dealstreetasia.com/stories/43254-43254/ YuuZoo is partnering with SportsHero to increase its spread while VGO is engaged in a potential reverse takeover  deal with management consultancy Sky Win and Sarine Technologies has acquired Diamining to strengthen its offerings. YuuZoo partners with SportsHero Social e-commerce network provider  YuuZoo Corp  has entered into a partnership with SportsHero, a socially-driven sports prediction community. The pact is expected to bring SportsHero to YuuZoo&rsquo s network of over 118 million consumers spread across 164 countries. The partnership will see YuuZoo users accessing SportsHero&rsquo s social sports prediction platform. The platform comes under  MyHero, which owns and  develops finance app TradeHero.  SportsHero will be listing on the Australia Securities Exchange  (ASX)  via an RTO deal with Nevada Iron (NVI). VGO   to acquire Sky Win VGO Corporation has entered into a sale and purchase agreement to acquire Sky Win Management Consultancy Pte Ltd with a potential for a reverse takeover. The  purchase consideration, which is yet to be determined, is subject to the approval of Singapore Exchange (SGX) and company  shareholders. According to the VGO Corp board, the proposed acquisition will help the company comply with SGX&rsquo s minimum trading price requirement. The deal will also cover  conditional restructuring of  Sky Win to hold direct or indirect  stake in  five targeted subsidiaries: Hatten International Pte Ltd, Fuyuu Group Sdn Bhd, Fuyuu Resources Sdn Bhd, Fuyuu Venture Sdn Bhd and Gold Mart Sdn Bhd. Sarine Tech acquires tech & assets of DiaMining Sarine Technologies  &ndash   an SGX Mainboard-listed Israeli corporation specialising in precision technology products for gems industry &ndash has acquired the technology and assets of DiaMining for $1.2 million. DiaMining  develops point of sale (POS) applications for diamonds, gemstones and jewellery.  Uzi Levami, CEO  of Sarine stated, &ldquo Sarine&rsquo s acquisition of DiaMining&rsquo s assets will enable us to better support our customers at their actual points of sale, and to accelerate the Sarine Profile&rsquo sTM adoption as an integral part of the diamond or gemstone jewellery sales process.&rdquo &ldquo The ability to integrate with our customers&rsquo inventory management systems will also allow us to provide a more complete solution and to offer our customers significant cost savings in inventory procurement and management,&rdquo he added. Read more at: http://www.dealstreetasia.com/stories/43254-43254/ |
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luckyfa
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09-Jun-2016 17:06
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Closed at $0.183...Hope some good news coming.... |
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Demostation
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09-Jun-2016 16:06
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Today it is still an upmove.   Not bad moving upto 188 highest with a gain of 9 pips. Of course there are some who bought cheaper below 18 cets and wants to take the profit as contra is fast.   So it is quite natural for people to take profits of losses.   This is how market is being made.   Lol. |
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TanSiBeiKu
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09-Jun-2016 15:56
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Really appreciate some of the forumers here. Once you see them appear, it' s safe to take profit and talk later. 
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