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treetops Elite	03-Mar-2021 09:14        treetops About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Moments Today, Memories Tomorrow!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Profit lost, no pain sia. Capital lost then pain... ahlam86      ( Date: 03-Mar-2021 09:04) Posted: Anyone still diamond hands? Lost my 22% profit. Lol
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ThankYou Supreme	03-Mar-2021 09:12        ThankYou About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You bought second chance also? makdatok      ( Date: 03-Mar-2021 09:10) Posted: U guys wr given 2nd chance to load at 60..Did u take it?..heh heh
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bicboi Veteran	03-Mar-2021 09:11        bicboi About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if you wanna diamond hand it then just dont look at it lo, 60 holding up ok for now ahlam86      ( Date: 03-Mar-2021 09:04) Posted: Anyone still diamond hands? Lost my 22% profit. Lol
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makdatok Supreme	03-Mar-2021 09:10        makdatok About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U guys wr given 2nd chance to load at 60..Did u take it?..heh heh
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ahlam86 Senior	03-Mar-2021 09:04        ahlam86 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone still diamond hands? Lost my 22% profit. Lol
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mrwise Supreme	03-Mar-2021 09:02        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes. Time to let go if cannot hold... Trade with caution.. mikethong88      ( Date: 03-Mar-2021 08:37) Posted: all priced in. just be careful
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mikethong88 Elite	03-Mar-2021 08:37        mikethong88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	all priced in. just be careful
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SgYuan Supreme	03-Mar-2021 08:27        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	oceanus day
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SgYuan Supreme	03-Mar-2021 08:24        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	oceanus day w2 72 break down wc continue tgt 68 didn't expect to hit 60 now wc lengthen to w3 so chance of dntrend ew high w4 tgt 67 if day baseline support still got chance if not w5 dn 50
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ringo88 Senior	02-Mar-2021 22:10        ringo88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Brobluesy.. thank you for posting this. Very informative.indeed mondaybluesy      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 18:31) Posted: Now that the Q4 2020 results are out, should I sell now and buy back lower? Firstly, congratulations to those who had sold earlier today and managed to buy back cheaper.  Good for you!  As much as we love Oceanus, I know we all love making money more. Secondly, I am not going to tell you how 95% of day traders end up losing money.  Because if you&rsquo re reading this, you probably believe you&rsquo re part of the 5% like I do. Instead, I explain why I did not sell earlier, and will not be doing so. Significance of SGX Watchlist Unlike the typical post-earnings release dip seen in other companies, Oceanus is in a unique position: on SGX watchlist. This is more than just a &ldquo bad label&rdquo to get rid of. The purpose of the watchlist is to caution investors (both retail and institutional) that the company is financially shaky and run the risk of delistment (don&rsquo t be confuse with removal from watchlist!). Implications As a result, because of the regulatory policies of most FIs, investment managers are: Not allowed to invest / go long into &ldquo watchlist companies&rdquo .     Why?  Because they need to answer to their clients should the company get delisted and they lose their clients&rsquo money. Allowed to short (watchlist) companies.  This is what happened today.  The above regulatory limitation doesn&rsquo t apply to &lsquo shorting&rsquo companies.  Because any news of a potential delistment will drive the stock price a lot lower for a handsome profit! How does this affect Financial Institutions (FIs) looking to invest in Oceanus? With the stellar Q4 2020 earnings results, the exit from SGX watchlist is almost a certainty.  However, the actual filing will only take place in Q2/Q3 2021 (after satisfying Financial Exit Criteria by 15 April 2021). Thus, we are in a bit of a &ldquo no man&rsquo s land&rdquo , regulatory speaking. This makes Oceanus an interesting investment proposition for FIs (and an extremely exciting one for us as retail investors!). Essentially, FIs with less conservative regulatory policies will be the &lsquo first-movers&rsquo to invest.  I will not be surprised if some have started to deliberate doing so.  These are typically smaller accredited investors (AIs) / institutional investors (II) representing a single wealthy family / client, and are thus more nimble.  In this category, you have your single family offices, trust funds, PB accounts, etc Thereafter, with the release of audit report (on or before 15 April 2021) and formal exit from watchlist, you open up to the much larger, &lsquo second-wave&rsquo of FIs being the portfolio managers, IB, mutual funds, hedge funds, etc. Nonetheless, don&rsquo t expect the price to jump starkly upwards when they enter.  It will likely be an algorithmic purchase against any downward pressure.  And we will likely know it (if we do) from their public announcements, not the price action. In short, the flood-gates of institutional money has not swung open (yet), but just &ldquo creaked open slightly&rdquo . What does this mean for retail investors? The catch is we do not know  when  the big money will flow in.  Yes, I said &ldquo when&rdquo and not &ldquo if&rdquo .  Because of the exceedingly good Q4 2020 earnings signalling the start of a 3-year growth trajectory.  (Read my previous post.) It could be this week, it could be this month, or it could be this quarter.  All we know is that with each passing day, the likelihood gets higher.  Time is on the side of the Oceanus long-ist.  Whereas the shorts always have a deadline to cover. My plan is just to stay invested  before  the FIs come in. It is ultimately a game of probability.  Taking profits now and buying back in lower sure makes me feel like a champ.  And I applaud those who manage to do that successfully. But TA isn&rsquo t doing much for me without the big money influencing the candlesticks, so I cannot precise confidently when it would be best to buy back in.  Just look at how thin the order book is.  It doesn&rsquo t take much to move the share price either way. And so I choose to wait, and watch my portfolio dance red and celebrate CNY for me all over again. But I do so with the confidence that Oceanus just had an amazing Q4 2020, and are on track to further breakthroughs in 2021 and beyond.
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ButhuAlex Member	02-Mar-2021 21:43        ButhuAlex About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oceanus many years of losses & almost " close shop" ....so it s something expected & u can see it in balance sheet accumulated loss.  k2kingkong      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 16:52) Posted: Accumulated losses is an asset.  It means that going forward as Oceanus earns profits, it does not have to pay income tax for a few years.   mikethong88      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 16:35) Posted: accumulated losses of S$418.6 million. omg
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bornloser Senior	02-Mar-2021 21:34        bornloser About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You did hint sell, if one was unable to hold long term. And I avoided buy high sell low. You did play short this round. Thanks . gregtan123      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 18:45) Posted: Probably my LAST Post on  $Oceanus^(579.SI)  and  $Medtecs Intl(546.SI)  NO Emotions, Nothing to Prove. My sincere advice is if you want to sell, SELL. If you are wavering, SELL. Three reasons: (a) Sector Rotation gonna be painful (b) Both are HATED stocks by many on INS/Gurus (c) Coupled with Day Traders. (b) and (c) make both Oceanus and Medtecs impossible to hold for short to medium term. If u followed my Posts and bought High, I am SORRY, perhaps can also follow the other people especially those that made the counter calls, they are all the real gurus n experts. Must have humility to say they win. As for me, I am holding. but may do intra-day shorts for fun to make money whilst I wait. I won' t post for Both Medtecs and Oceanus until Oceanus hits 8.5 Medtecs hit 2 SGD which also means I will never post at all anymore on these stocks. For now, you will see me post US stock market and play there. More keen there, investors more welcoming. There is Retails United vs BBs. in Sinkie, it is Sinkie Pawn Sinkie, Sinkie wishing each other fail.
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bornloser Senior	02-Mar-2021 21:24        bornloser About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Long track record. Hard truth, agreed and no reason given for such policy. Retailers just small fish and can be eaten to feed bigger fish.Just look at US market, if they have such policy. Up fast query, down fast keep silent. I don't know the reason for doing so. I stand to be corrected. Retailers should think twice, your hard earned money. ahlam86      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 17:19) Posted: Retailers win not happy query. Retailers lose money they happy no query. Hard truth Dameon      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 17:12) Posted: F those BB and SGX only query price when drastic up, drastic down they F care
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COVID-21 Member	02-Mar-2021 21:23        COVID-21 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wife included trust me.... mikethong88      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 21:16) Posted: never love a stock and you will be hurt. just my opinion.
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mikethong88 Elite	02-Mar-2021 21:16        mikethong88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	never love a stock and you will be hurt. just my opinion.
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Chloewg Member	02-Mar-2021 21:08        Chloewg About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well said!! Staying put too! Oceanus United! mondaybluesy      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 18:31) Posted: Now that the Q4 2020 results are out, should I sell now and buy back lower? Firstly, congratulations to those who had sold earlier today and managed to buy back cheaper.  Good for you!  As much as we love Oceanus, I know we all love making money more. Secondly, I am not going to tell you how 95% of day traders end up losing money.  Because if you&rsquo re reading this, you probably believe you&rsquo re part of the 5% like I do. Instead, I explain why I did not sell earlier, and will not be doing so. Significance of SGX Watchlist Unlike the typical post-earnings release dip seen in other companies, Oceanus is in a unique position: on SGX watchlist. This is more than just a &ldquo bad label&rdquo to get rid of. The purpose of the watchlist is to caution investors (both retail and institutional) that the company is financially shaky and run the risk of delistment (don&rsquo t be confuse with removal from watchlist!). Implications As a result, because of the regulatory policies of most FIs, investment managers are: Not allowed to invest / go long into &ldquo watchlist companies&rdquo .     Why?  Because they need to answer to their clients should the company get delisted and they lose their clients&rsquo money. Allowed to short (watchlist) companies.  This is what happened today.  The above regulatory limitation doesn&rsquo t apply to &lsquo shorting&rsquo companies.  Because any news of a potential delistment will drive the stock price a lot lower for a handsome profit! How does this affect Financial Institutions (FIs) looking to invest in Oceanus? With the stellar Q4 2020 earnings results, the exit from SGX watchlist is almost a certainty.  However, the actual filing will only take place in Q2/Q3 2021 (after satisfying Financial Exit Criteria by 15 April 2021). Thus, we are in a bit of a &ldquo no man&rsquo s land&rdquo , regulatory speaking. This makes Oceanus an interesting investment proposition for FIs (and an extremely exciting one for us as retail investors!). Essentially, FIs with less conservative regulatory policies will be the &lsquo first-movers&rsquo to invest.  I will not be surprised if some have started to deliberate doing so.  These are typically smaller accredited investors (AIs) / institutional investors (II) representing a single wealthy family / client, and are thus more nimble.  In this category, you have your single family offices, trust funds, PB accounts, etc Thereafter, with the release of audit report (on or before 15 April 2021) and formal exit from watchlist, you open up to the much larger, &lsquo second-wave&rsquo of FIs being the portfolio managers, IB, mutual funds, hedge funds, etc. Nonetheless, don&rsquo t expect the price to jump starkly upwards when they enter.  It will likely be an algorithmic purchase against any downward pressure.  And we will likely know it (if we do) from their public announcements, not the price action. In short, the flood-gates of institutional money has not swung open (yet), but just &ldquo creaked open slightly&rdquo . What does this mean for retail investors? The catch is we do not know  when  the big money will flow in.  Yes, I said &ldquo when&rdquo and not &ldquo if&rdquo .  Because of the exceedingly good Q4 2020 earnings signalling the start of a 3-year growth trajectory.  (Read my previous post.) It could be this week, it could be this month, or it could be this quarter.  All we know is that with each passing day, the likelihood gets higher.  Time is on the side of the Oceanus long-ist.  Whereas the shorts always have a deadline to cover. My plan is just to stay invested  before  the FIs come in. It is ultimately a game of probability.  Taking profits now and buying back in lower sure makes me feel like a champ.  And I applaud those who manage to do that successfully. But TA isn&rsquo t doing much for me without the big money influencing the candlesticks, so I cannot precise confidently when it would be best to buy back in.  Just look at how thin the order book is.  It doesn&rsquo t take much to move the share price either way. And so I choose to wait, and watch my portfolio dance red and celebrate CNY for me all over again. But I do so with the confidence that Oceanus just had an amazing Q4 2020, and are on track to further breakthroughs in 2021 and beyond.
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3DecadesTrader Veteran	02-Mar-2021 20:50        3DecadesTrader About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CIMB is the lousiest of the lousiest analyst & institutional players lah. Lollllll vw2796      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 15:12) Posted: why cimb? what is the diff? gregtan123      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 14:34) Posted: I already told you that. For me my default is when I see CIMB buying from me at 0.068 I buy back immediately. CIMB i learn the hard way, never fight them.  CIMB biught 0.068 FY
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COVID-21 Member	02-Mar-2021 20:50        COVID-21 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha ....yes agreed...DBS IFAST NanoFlim TopGlove & many more all manipulated by punters.....must complants... SGX JLB never working de.....Puiiiiiii   papayaface      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 20:08) Posted: This is what SGX counters are good for. So famous for being easily manipulated by punters .... and what can the SGX regulators do? Good luck      steveang1      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 19:53) Posted: Sad to see some people emotionally affected, but such is the nature of the game with some people calling for long and some calling for short - both with selfish intentions for their own benefits that could cause serious damage to the uninitiated and inexperienced punters. But nobody can be blamed for the risks involved in this very complex and unpredictable game. Moderating voices sometimes can save people in a trance
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DieOsoHuat18 Member	02-Mar-2021 20:24        DieOsoHuat18 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Swee bro nice having u in here 👍 👍 👍 I m prepare to Jiak only Oceanus abalone next full year 😅 😅
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COVID-21 Member	02-Mar-2021 20:18        COVID-21 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nice to meet you Bro....yes die hard supporters here..... DieOsoHuat18      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 20:13) Posted: Bro are you 1 of the Oceanus holder???kinda curious only 🧐 🧐 anyway anyhow it will I&rsquo ll be a Long battle 🤜 👊 🤛 who knows what&rsquo s gonna happen tmr 😇 😇 MORE MORE YAKULT PLS 🥂 COVID-21      ( Date: 02-Mar-2021 19:49) Posted: after flusing ....Bro here happy ...kateks happy......BBs happy .....all happy happy now...all can sleep well tonight ..Haha Rules No. 1  AAA class BBs = must know when to relese some tensions.....
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