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Dannkh
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12-Dec-2020 22:24
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This is a power investment house with many followers. This report definitely will cause some initial adverse reaction to gloves counters.
My years of trading experience attest to this "strange" behaviours. I think the prices of gloves counters are bottoming. Not vested.
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Dannkh
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12-Dec-2020 22:13
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Any indications on how they arrived at half the price as tp?
All gloves counters have been sold down alot recently. It seems that now the present prices of these counters have some support. Recently, it is difficult for BB shortists to make good money becos of this support. Why this under weight report is out at this time to create fear?
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fatpanda
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12-Dec-2020 22:07
Yells: "Another wonderful day!" |
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Bro, Why Panda said that? You may check what they commented about Moderna few months ago. You may also goto " The Traders" thread to get the weblinks for the news about their comments.
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fatpanda
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12-Dec-2020 22:03
Yells: "Another wonderful day!" |
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Bro, Comments from JP Mogan analysts? Don' t take them seriously. They are well known by the trader' s community for some " strange" behaviours.
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SGPhantom
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12-Dec-2020 21:52
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Now, this is a bit worrying... "JP Morgan pegs these glove makers' fair value at up to half their market price, says supernormal cycle is over" https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/765419 | ||||
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investor999
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12-Dec-2020 16:12
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No matter what strategy, the ultimate decision is whether you are buying a correct company. If you are sure that the company is undervalue you continue toi buy down and down and DON' T cut loss The risk is you have made a grave mistake. There is something in the company you do not know and eventually the company bail out and declare losses |
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zandlery
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12-Dec-2020 16:03
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Becos the share value consider low to other international market. So someone or some entity with big enough money can easily manipulate the stock direction.
That's why losing money companies can rise and money making companies can drop.
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investor999
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12-Dec-2020 14:13
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The Bear has managed to poison some of us here into bear
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Hello08
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12-Dec-2020 14:06
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what i find it funny in this forum is that, when a stock start to fall everyone start saying is a goner. when it rebound all of them disappered. Each of the investor had their own point of view and why do they invest in the company. it doesnt mean the price start to fall it will become worthless, for RS it still a company with good fundmental. i believe a stop loss will be good in whatever counter you are trading with to avoid losing much more. | ||||
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wavehunter
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12-Dec-2020 13:30
Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see." |
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Bro Longtermer, Yes, hindsight is always perfect. But having a stop loss as a crucial part of your investment strategy is not about hindsight. Its about whether you want to have it or not at all. If you have it, then you will never ever have to face a situation where you are sitting on a huge loss and day after day, the only annoying, infuriating and frustrating question which rings constantly in your head is - do I cut and be done with it OR do I hold on some more and hope for a miracle whilst the bleeding continues? It is not a situation any investor relish or want to be in. All big losses start off as a small loss initially. An investor who has incorporated a stop loss as part of his strategy would have had the luxury of time and space in a peaceful setting to think about how many bids he is prepared to lose for that trade if the market disagrees with him. Then put a stop loss there for that trade and if triggered, he takes the loss. Where to put the stop loss is something which is personal and each investor will have to, thru trial and error, find his own comfort level. A good stop loss is one which will enable you to continue with this game after you have taken your loss. Having a stop loss means you will never see a day when not being able to take the pain anymore, you cut your losing positions by which time you have lost so much of your capital that you cannot invest anymore. And you will have to take a break from the market to work and save up to build up your war chest before you can come back into the market for another go. An investor who chooses to have a stop loss will never be in a position where many bros and siss who are stuck in Riverstone, are now in. Day in and day out, they are staring at a huge loss. To take that loss now is so very painful. To hold on whilst the bleeding continues with no end in sight, is also just as painful if not even more painful becoz the thought of losing even more of your capital is unbearable. A stop loss forces you to take it when your loss is still small and bearable. A stop loss will not allow your loss to pile up day after day and before you know it, you already have a mountain of loss in your backyard. Some of you may say that many times after you cut your positions and took the loss, your stock rebounded and went above your entry level and you regretted having cut. If this happens to you often enough, then what it means is that you have a trading system which somehow more often than not enables you to enter a stock when it is at its bottom or about to bottom out. If that is you, then you have a good entry system and what you can do is to place your stop loss further away so that you allow enough room for your stock to find its bottom and U-Turn without triggering your stop loss. However, on those occasions when you are wrong and your stock continues to fall, it will eventually trigger your stop loss and having a stop loss will protect you from holding on to a losing position. What' s my take if you want to invest $1m today? I will answer that in a later post. |
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Alson18
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12-Dec-2020 11:48
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Ya.. maybe this counter nanofilm Rev $195m 2020...mkt cap 2.55b Price 3.90...tgt price 5.50 |
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SGPhantom
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12-Dec-2020 10:26
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For me, I would recommend EV, EV-related and SPAC. Or anything to do with 5G or IoT. And that is just me, I don' t have $1M to invest : )
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Longtermer
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12-Dec-2020 09:52
Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor" |
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Hindsight is always perfect. If i want to invest $1m today, what is your take?
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investor999
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12-Dec-2020 08:38
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Not true.
Counters that have moved higher stayed high and consolidate at that range.
Counters that already fallen stayed low and consolidate around that low range.
The trading should be within small ranges now. There should not be too much fall now.
I believe RS will move back to 1.20 on Monday
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Alson18
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12-Dec-2020 07:27
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The shortist and the Bears are really smiling and will have alot to talk to justify their actions. Our SG mkt is really strange. counters that has delivered strong results and expected to continue to achieve v good results for at least next 2 Qtrs..the share price keep dropping. Counters that didnt perform and expect to struggle to turn profitable or going to make small profit, the share price can move higher Can only hope the Bull BB n funds n existing shareholders can wake up or maybe they are watching closely to give the small investors/shareholders a Good chrismas present and a happy start to the new year! And stop the shoŕ tist for calling for more bloods and their monkey bussiness and monkey thè ory! will continue to stay invested and hv faith in the medical stocks |
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investor999
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12-Dec-2020 01:23
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The fake buy Q at 1.25 was perhaps true buyers who withdrew and bought progressively down.
In the end, the Bear won the war because of fear that he induced.
More like people scoring own goal
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wavehunter
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12-Dec-2020 01:13
Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see." |
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Yes, your friend can smile now becoz had he not cut at 1.34, his bleeding wound would have bled more and he will be in a deeper anguish today if he is still holding on and bleeding. At the point of decision, it is very painful to bring oneself to cut. After cutting, one will feel damn SIAN and damn shitty about the whole thing. And naturally so. But after that upon seeing the price falls further, a quiet sense of relief comes upon you. And you are glad you did the right thing by cutting. Your only regret is that you didnt do it earlier. But all is not lost. You would have learnt a valuable lesson here. That in this game, when wrong, keep your losses small and tight and cut it sooner than later. When we invest or trade, we dont have to worry about the upside. The upside will take care of itself. We worry about the downside. We cant be right all the time. So what' s important is what do we do when we are wrong. Cut our losses short or ride those losses until beh loon leow then we cut ? How we manage our losses whenever we are wrong is what draws the line between those who do well and those who dont do as well. Which is why I like this famous quote of George Soros who said... " Its not important how many times you are right and how many times you were wrong. What' s important is how much do you make when you were right and how much did you lose when you were wrong" . The importance of keeping one' s losses small when we are wrong is the gist of his quote. If you are right a thousand times and on each occasion you made a dollar and you were wrong only once but on that one occasion, you lost ten thousand dollars, it doesnt matter that you were wrong only once if you didnt know how to manage your loss when you are wrong. So your friend can smile now becoz he now knows the importance of cutting when wrong instead of allowing the bleeding to continue. And he will remember this expensive tutorial lesson which will make him a better investor the next time he finds himself wrong again. None of us can be right all the time. We will be wrong at times. What we do when we are wrong is what matters. Which is why some investors keep it simple by simply having a stop loss. If we leave it to our human emotions, we will find a thousand and one reasons not to cut when the market goes against us. And in all likelihood, we will end up not cutting and allow the bleeding to continue. And often to our own detriment. But if we keep it simple by saying I am not prepared to lose more than 10 cts or 20 cts or whatever stop loss limit you have chosen per trade or per transaction and you place a stop loss there and when triggered, you just cut, it will take the emotion out of the decision-making process. Our emotions invariably always gets in the way. So having a stop loss is the best way to deal with this problem. It makes the act of cutting purely mechanical - when the number of bids I am prepared to lose is reached, just cut. Dont try to rationalize and justify why I should not cut. Becoz a stop loss is designed to protect your capital. From you. . 
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investor999
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12-Dec-2020 01:10
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This is not what I was hoping but my fear came true. As the consolidation could not hold at 1.25, my feared vision was a final fall before it all ends. Next week I shall built my ladder down to 1.15 I did that ladder earlier but price rebounded at 1.19. I do not want it to come true. | ||||
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SGPhantom
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12-Dec-2020 00:39
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Hope you are wrong.
A friend whos heavily vested finally thrown in the towel and cut loss at 1.34 last week.
I haven't seen him smile for weeks until this week.
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n3wbie
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11-Dec-2020 23:55
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The entire sector continues to be under selling pressure. Despite Top Glove reporting record profits, it still couldn' t rally but just dropped less than peers so until the institutional funds rotate back to this sector, we may see share price languishing further | ||||
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