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BullRun
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07-Apr-2017 08:24
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Still way undervalued! | ||
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AustinTsai
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03-Apr-2017 22:33
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Market apparently has not discovered this gem. well run S chip with strong management, leading industry player for China market. At such scale and profitability, you won' t be able to find another specialty chemical company that is trading at such low valuation. At 74cents, this is only probably 50% of the intrinsic value. Specialty chemical sector is valued at least 15x PE.  |
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HVRRVH
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03-Apr-2017 17:14
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junnies
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03-Apr-2017 16:54
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a strong run up to close the day...i like it....0.8 certainly does not seem like a problem at all. |
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BullRun
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31-Mar-2017 12:13
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The Best is Yet to Come! | ||
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naocan
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29-Mar-2017 08:21
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0.70 should not be a problem. | ||
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johnng
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29-Mar-2017 07:57
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S-chips coming alive |
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BullRun
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29-Mar-2017 07:48
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The Best is Yet to Come! | ||
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junnies
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28-Mar-2017 12:57
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after two days of profit-taking, another strong surge by China Sunsine Chemical today. Currently share price is 0.665 off the open/low of 0.615. my personal fair value of China Sunsine is roughly $1, though i will depend on technical analysis to tell me when to pull out. so far, technical indicators for this stock are still very strong (high volume on rallies, low volume on profit-taking/declines). it is steadily attracting attention with more news in financial blogs and sites, and i forsee that it will hit 0.8 at least. I am personally quite heavily invested (bought at 0.55-0.56) |
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Aizai8
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27-Mar-2017 08:00
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One important difference between China Sunsine and Dutech. When raw materials prices go up, Sunsine product prices go up too and margins are less affected.  Check out (copy and paste link) below : https://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/939-2017/11367-china-sunsine-record-2016-profit-pe-ratio-less-than-6     |
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hardwired
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26-Mar-2017 17:34
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Yes, this is a really good company and I regret having sold a little too soon before the current run up. Hope to get back into it (and Dutech  also) when the market is in a less bouyant mood. Congrats to all still holding on and it is still extremely undervalued at the current price.
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HVRRVH
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25-Mar-2017 10:36
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Finally, the share price has taken a significant leap upward. I hope this is sign that rerating is taking place. Still, ttm pe is about 6.3x and definitely there is still room for higherr pe. A short term pe target of 8x to 10x is not unrealistic. Being a FA guy, I have confidence that the company is on the right track. I am also exposed quite a fair bit to TA recently as I am also dabble in fx now. Applying TA to sunsine, I found strong support at 53-54.5 cents range and I couldn' t help it and had made more purchase at that level. I didn' t have a chance to buy anything after it broke out from 58 cents to 64 cents. However, I bought a little bit more at 62 cents support level yesterday. Now my holding is a nice round figure and I am motivated to keep it that way as my sunsine holding is really getting big now.  Going forward, the company is embarking on expansion. The company' s production capacity still has room for bigger production and on top of that, the new factory with 10,000 tons capacity should start producing TBBS soon. Immediately after this, the 20,000 tons additional production line should be ready by end of the year. Clearly, sunsine did not rest on its laurel despite being the market leader. The company has clear strategy of gaining and expanding market shares regardless of good and bad time. It has flexible marketing strategies and the key is that it has a capable management team. Two major competitors, huagu yantai and kemei, had plans to raise further capital but in contrary, sunsine did not make a single cash call since listing. It is with this fact that I am ok to be patient with sunsine for not raising the dividend payout in FY16. After all, it has just raised it by 50% in FY2014 and I am align with the company that it should be prudent. I am confidence that the dividend will be raised in time to come. This is because the company has completely repaid the bank loan and with the retained profit building up, it has room for a higher dividend or use it for capex to further expand the size and hence, the earning of the company. Either way, it should translate to higher eps and accordingly, higher pe in due course. Extremely busy with 8-5 (sometimes 8-8 or even later!) job and other committments. I am also eyeing few other companies and would like to devote more time in the research. And yes, some of the companies are s-chips too! On this note, I can only say s-chips or not, FA is key. Just look at CAO and Sunpower. On the other hand, just look at ABL trio and their related gang companies. What a shame, 8b wiped out in no time at all and the ripple effect can still be felt (damaged retail invest sentiment).   With the above, I would not post anymore in this thread for the foreseeable future. I have posted on the first day of the year that I would like to see sunsine trade in between 55-60 cents range in a few months. It has realised within 3 months and I am happy that I believe my own anslysis and stay vested all this while. Wishing all sunsine holders the best! Just be patient and we should reap the reward in due course.      |
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BullRun
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23-Mar-2017 22:16
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Still way undervalued! PE 10 is more reasonable. | ||
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23-Mar-2017 19:50
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Their results justify the price appreciation.   Very well-run China company with hardly any debt.   Good candidate for privatisation or take over.
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BullRun
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23-Mar-2017 18:44
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The Best is Yet to Be! | ||
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HVRRVH
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23-Mar-2017 17:15
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Wah SGX queried the company! Aiyo the market is giving due recognition to the company why query? But good to see how the company response. | ||
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junnies
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23-Mar-2017 17:02
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Seeing the strong breakout rally (closing near high, huge volume) plus my opinion that China Sunsine is still significantly undervalued (imo fair price is at least $1), there should still be quite some room for this stock to climb. I will only start profit taking when buying pressure starts to decline. |
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Lugi71
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23-Mar-2017 14:39
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Fantastic this is finally getting the recognition it deserves.  Sold way too early at 0.525. Wishing all longists all the best. |
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HVRRVH
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23-Mar-2017 14:02
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They can easily propel the pe to 10 by giving out higher dividend. But the company is very cautious, which I really don't mind. I am align with the company's strategies so far which is to continue the growth and expand. Some ready cash in hands is handy for capital expenditures. It is already very remarkable for sunsine to give back all the money raised during IPO plus many times more spent on capex and yet at the same time giving out yearly dividend since listed. To top it all, no cash call and no debt now.
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junnies
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23-Mar-2017 13:53
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this stock is really undervalued honestly. if you compare it with valuetronics, valuetronics has had a relatively small 3% net profit annum grwoth in the last five years, no debt, and at its current price a 3% div yield, whilst china sunsine has had a 10% net profit annum growth, no debt, and current div yield of 1.67%.   valuetronics has a p/e of 11, china sunsine a p/e of 6. if we merely equalise the P/Es of both companies (which is quite reasonable, considering China sunsine' s superior net profit growth vs valuetronic' s superior div yield), China Sunsine' s fair price is roughly $1. |
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