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halleluyah
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14-Feb-2015 13:17
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U r right. I think if without ah kong, 2yrs ago might lelong liao loh.
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nqing87
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14-Feb-2015 12:48
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got ah gong temasek to support ma lol.. cant pay debt, ask ah gong for money.. if no ah gong behind, maybe NOL also like swiber 10+ cents.. swiber also super big debt, just like NOL, but at least they didnt suffer that big of a loss compare to NOL..
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enjoylife77
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14-Feb-2015 12:36
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How long more can NOL survive with 4 years of hugh losses and elusive recovery? With HQ sold and business model questionable , which bank will extend a lifeline. RIghts issue again? Hard to place a value on this counter. |
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nqing87
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14-Feb-2015 12:36
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i thought if 3 years consecutive losses, then will be in watchlist already.. NOL not yet in the watchlist party meh?
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ysh2006
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14-Feb-2015 12:03
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Will there be laughting matter if NOL put on SGX watch list ? Tamasek Holding no face loh...
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nqing87
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14-Feb-2015 11:16
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but losses & fundamentals aside, who knows NOL share price may go up somemore lol.. if BB want to push, anything possible.. this is a market of irrationality, if market want to value u more, what can u say.. now ppl like treating shipping/transportation/airline sectors like god, profitable oil counters like dung lol.. haiz, investment not so simple as looking at profitable companies with good growth feasbility.. |
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nqing87
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14-Feb-2015 11:10
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haiz, media strait times give wrong info again.. what 3 years of consecutive losses.. it' s 4 years.. paper says NOL until like got chance to turn over by saying it' s trimming losses.. losses are trimmed on quarterly comparison basis, but FY2014 loss is more than previous FY lol.. beauty of media, they can pick the better figures if they want to say good things, and pick the lousier figures if they want to say bad things lol.. FY2011: 478mil loss FY2012: 412mil loss FY2013: 76mil loss FY2014: 260mil loss
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Heero78
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14-Feb-2015 10:25
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i agree. it is a piece of shit. Although gross profit margin improved from 5.4% to 8.4%. Other shipping companies is able to breakeven. If NOL is a " pure" private company , this piece of shit army general will be long gone liao...3 yrs consecutive loss...what a joke
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nqing87
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13-Feb-2015 23:30
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if the next few quarters still loss making, really can pack up le, consider oil price is low lol.. |
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shadow
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13-Feb-2015 22:54
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China Ocean Shipping Group Co (COSCO) returned to profit in 2014 after three years of losses, state media said on Saturday, citing an interview with the group&rsquo s chairman. The state-backed shipping conglomerate, which controls China COSCO Holdings Co Ltd, had a profit of 5.04 billion yuan ($809.26 million) last year, said Ma Zehua, according to the official Xinhua news agency. Operating revenues were up 2 percent year-on-year, said Xinhua without providing a figure, while COSCO&rsquo s asset to liability ratio fell 4.4 percentage points to 55.4 percent at the end of 2014. COSCO is now targeting annual profitability of between 4 and 5.5 percent by 2020, said Xinhua. On Monday, the group said it had received a $1.75 billion loan from the Export-Import Bank of China with which to buy 53 new ships. These would include oil tankers, container ships and dry-bulk vessels, helping to replace 100 vessels COSCO had scrapped in the last two years. Last week, COSCO Shipping Co Ltd said its preliminary 2014 net profit was up 491.3 percent year-on-year to 193 million yuan ($30.99 million). |
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shadow
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13-Feb-2015 22:52
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All still hoping the best for NOL to make profit this Q. It' s name already implied NOL =Net Operating Loss Forever loss company.. Better close shop take private return all shareholders $$$ .. And please sack that useless CEO.. NOL going watchlist what has he got to say!!! Even Cosco shipping turn around to hugh profit after 3years of losses... |
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Heero78
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13-Feb-2015 22:44
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To answer ur question. CIMB forecast net loss of 247.7m and eps (loss) of 10 cents. 2014 NOL full year result is net loss 251m and eps(loss) of 10.05 cents. So it is within expectation but still in loss...I beh tahan
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earlybird14
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13-Feb-2015 21:42
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But what price? 50cents? Better sell it away lah. So hopeless. I followed up closely almost all the listed container line companies result. So far, NOL is the worst. Management fail again
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nqing87
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13-Feb-2015 21:19
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Dividend record: FY2009: 0 cents FY2010: SGD 4.6 cents FY2011: 0 cents FY2012: 0 cents FY2013: 0 cents FY2014: 0 cents 4 years of losses.. are they in watchlist or anything? how many years losses will force them to delist?
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Heero78
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13-Feb-2015 21:02
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Wun issue right one. Issue right now is commit suicide. Also wun privatize. Why temasek want to privatize loss making company? They only can sell APL logistic to beef up and cash out. No other way. No matter wat, I have to cut profit. Really hopeless piece of shit from SAF General. |
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KAMAL0883
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13-Feb-2015 18:27
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worst come to worst Temasek will privaties NOL bcos NOL is to large to sink .... |
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halleluyah
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13-Feb-2015 17:57
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hv to aredi or issue rights loh...
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earlybird14
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13-Feb-2015 17:40
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The only positive in the balance sheet is NOL manage to borrow more money. The debt continual to snow ball. I believe the only reason they are able to refinance their debt is selling APL Logistics
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earlybird14
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13-Feb-2015 17:35
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always stay rational, be patient and alert with your investment. This is the worst ever result, especially majority of shipping line are making profit or breakeven in this quarter. Based on this quarter result, NOL just declare that they are totally out from the competition. negative balance sheet, high debt, investors lossing confident, old version vessel, no money to fund new giant vessel and etc. |
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stockwinner
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13-Feb-2015 17:32
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Continue losses... but reduced losses by a lot... Within expectation? |
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