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Keppellongist Senior	27-Feb-2019 08:38        Keppellongist About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think BBs will be very happy with more short. Most likely will push price to margin call for short then unload after that.. Just like how it short heavily when BT article published then double long when it hit 2.00+ Justice888      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 08:25) Posted: The cash collected are in the bank and they giving out dividends . Anyway please continue to short . Superkilat      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 08:18) Posted: BW fails to address the accounting credibility issue. Who and how can verify theur sales figures are true. Conspiracy theory holds if sales are false where no physical goods were transacted. That is BT biggest red flag raised on accountability of sales figures. Remain in short position.
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Shifu8888 Supreme	27-Feb-2019 08:37        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well... for shortists, for those who dumped too early out of fear, or whoever wish to spread unfounded fear with a hope to buy on Low..... the facts are clear. $110m dividends had been paid since Ipo. Well.... one may argue till cows come home but nothing more surreal than dividends declared thus far. Leverage Low, they did not issue bonds or borrow to pay dividends. Dividends were declared out of earnings hordes. It may not be a linear one way uptrend but if the earnings momentum continues and dual listing beckoning, $3 is sure-thing. My POV your money. Happy Huat Huat.
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WaveRider Member	27-Feb-2019 08:37        WaveRider About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wahahaha...Yes please continue Justice888      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 08:25) Posted: The cash collected are in the bank and they giving out dividends . Anyway please continue to short . Superkilat      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 08:18) Posted: BW fails to address the accounting credibility issue. Who and how can verify theur sales figures are true. Conspiracy theory holds if sales are false where no physical goods were transacted. That is BT biggest red flag raised on accountability of sales figures. Remain in short position.
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Justice888 Supreme	27-Feb-2019 08:25        Justice888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The cash collected are in the bank and they giving out dividends . Anyway please continue to short . Superkilat      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 08:18) Posted: BW fails to address the accounting credibility issue. Who and how can verify theur sales figures are true. Conspiracy theory holds if sales are false where no physical goods were transacted. That is BT biggest red flag raised on accountability of sales figures. Remain in short position.
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Superkilat Elite	27-Feb-2019 08:24        Superkilat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes. Gap up snd then down all the way. Good results so what? Figures are true?
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WaveRider Member	27-Feb-2019 08:23        WaveRider About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why you think they won't go for dual listing? famouspinky      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:51) Posted: IF only IF and the game goes on iF one believes which I don't think many will in this era. WaveRider      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:25) Posted: Thank you Shifu
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s100125 Elite	27-Feb-2019 08:19        s100125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today pre open price likely to gap up.
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Superkilat Elite	27-Feb-2019 08:18        Superkilat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	BW fails to address the accounting credibility issue. Who and how can verify theur sales figures are true. Conspiracy theory holds if sales are false where no physical goods were transacted. That is BT biggest red flag raised on accountability of sales figures. Remain in short position.
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Sgvale Supreme	27-Feb-2019 08:17        Sgvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yesterday market rise expecting BW to report good result. But market suspicious still lingering & sentiment for this Co somehow dented.
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famouspinky Supreme	27-Feb-2019 07:51        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	IF only IF and the game goes on iF one believes which I don't think many will in this era. WaveRider      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:25) Posted: Thank you Shifu. Shifu8888      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:09) Posted: Good morning. This is material information, they have to announce at the latest practiceable date if they have this intention.
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famouspinky Supreme	27-Feb-2019 07:33        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ano story like hyflux , Noble and so many $ 2 stocks tts trashed to nothing. Play when Bb is in the game. Run when game over. Shifu8888      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 04:31) Posted: Think this is happening. If i were BW, I will do a dual listing in HK. The shares should fly through $5 if the earning momentum continues and dual list next or totals delist and delist in HK. Being too patriotic andnstay in SGx is not helping. Why? The valuation sucks and when Bw PE at more than 20 times, people cry too high but for their business and numbers growth, such PE is a norm and even undervalued in HKSE. The joke is if such company is making such numbers, must market is looking at how many times it is above book value. Comparing book value is for companies with problems even companies with problems, the book value is also not a good test. My take: their growth and future potential seem unstoppable. BW needs to Adopt the above. Being too fast, too good, too profitable, too big in sgx is not good for them. I say again, I have said before, 树 大 招 风 , there will be another Analysts or journalist writing another article in future. That said, happy Huat for all later. Shifu8888      ( Date: 21-Feb-2019 12:12) Posted: Verdict: Sgx allows extension of 2 more days which is very uncommon. Sgx must have been convinced by their reasoning. Adrian Lee still in the board, I think Next, the clarification announcement must be Dam solid till no horse run. Let us wait. What will happen when open? Will gap down but will be time to buy. I suspect it will be pushed back to $3. I do not recall any Forbes award listed company to engage in any fraudulent practices. I think Innovalue was the past winner (Koh boon Hwee there)... well Adrian Lee is another KBH in the legal field... Really interesting to watch. I will stand by to buy when dip at open. Lots of pockets of making money. Timing must be zhun. Last conclusion: Shortists will spend their weekends in deep agony. What they can do is to spread fear in this forum. That is all. Not vested for now.
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nqing87 Supreme	27-Feb-2019 07:25        nqing87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes in sg stock market, the valuation of counters in terms of p/e is low.. if u said that 20p/e for BW is not high, then what abt the electronic counters which is trading below 10p/e mostly? And also our property developers that are also trading cheaply due to weak market sentiment towards it cos of the cooling measures.. BW used to trade below 10p/e before it venture to china and that is the norm.. now with the china excitement, bb make use of the perceived bright prospect and push it up high.. i too feel that the norm shld not be shares trading at below 10p/e but that is whats happening in our sicked exchange.. but i would say hong kong stocks is leas regulated and it is easier to find more hanky panky over there where u see big fluctuations in share price.. Shifu8888      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 04:31) Posted: Think this is happening. If i were BW, I will do a dual listing in HK. The shares should fly through $5 if the earning momentum continues and dual list next or totals delist and delist in HK. Being too patriotic andnstay in SGx is not helping. Why? The valuation sucks and when Bw PE at more than 20 times, people cry too high but for their business and numbers growth, such PE is a norm and even undervalued in HKSE. The joke is if such company is making such numbers, must market is looking at how many times it is above book value. Comparing book value is for companies with problems even companies with problems, the book value is also not a good test. My take: their growth and future potential seem unstoppable. BW needs to Adopt the above. Being too fast, too good, too profitable, too big in sgx is not good for them. I say again, I have said before, 树 大 招 风 , there will be another Analysts or journalist writing another article in future. That said, happy Huat for all later. Shifu8888      ( Date: 21-Feb-2019 12:12) Posted: Verdict: Sgx allows extension of 2 more days which is very uncommon. Sgx must have been convinced by their reasoning. Adrian Lee still in the board, I think Next, the clarification announcement must be Dam solid till no horse run. Let us wait. What will happen when open? Will gap down but will be time to buy. I suspect it will be pushed back to $3. I do not recall any Forbes award listed company to engage in any fraudulent practices. I think Innovalue was the past winner (Koh boon Hwee there)... well Adrian Lee is another KBH in the legal field... Really interesting to watch. I will stand by to buy when dip at open. Lots of pockets of making money. Timing must be zhun. Last conclusion: Shortists will spend their weekends in deep agony. What they can do is to spread fear in this forum. That is all. Not vested for now.
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WaveRider Member	27-Feb-2019 07:25        WaveRider About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you Shifu. Shifu8888      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:09) Posted: Good morning. This is material information, they have to announce at the latest practiceable date if they have this intention. WaveRider      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:03) Posted: From your experience, how soon will companies announce in sgx if they were to dual list in HK in June?
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Shifu8888 Supreme	27-Feb-2019 07:09        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good morning. This is material information, they have to announce at the latest practiceable date if they have this intention. WaveRider      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 07:03) Posted: From your experience, how soon will companies announce in sgx if they were to dual list in HK in June?
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WaveRider Member	27-Feb-2019 07:03        WaveRider About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	From your experience, how soon will companies announce in sgx if they were to dual list in HK in June?
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Shifu8888 Supreme	27-Feb-2019 04:31        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Think this is happening. If i were BW, I will do a dual listing in HK. The shares should fly through $5 if the earning momentum continues and dual list next or totals delist and delist in HK. Being too patriotic andnstay in SGx is not helping. Why? The valuation sucks and when Bw PE at more than 20 times, people cry too high but for their business and numbers growth, such PE is a norm and even undervalued in HKSE. The joke is if such company is making such numbers, must market is looking at how many times it is above book value. Comparing book value is for companies with problems even companies with problems, the book value is also not a good test. My take: their growth and future potential seem unstoppable. BW needs to Adopt the above. Being too fast, too good, too profitable, too big in sgx is not good for them. I say again, I have said before, 树 大 招 风 , there will be another Analysts or journalist writing another article in future. That said, happy Huat for all later. Shifu8888      ( Date: 21-Feb-2019 12:12) Posted: Verdict: Sgx allows extension of 2 more days which is very uncommon. Sgx must have been convinced by their reasoning. Adrian Lee still in the board, I think Next, the clarification announcement must be Dam solid till no horse run. Let us wait. What will happen when open? Will gap down but will be time to buy. I suspect it will be pushed back to $3. I do not recall any Forbes award listed company to engage in any fraudulent practices. I think Innovalue was the past winner (Koh boon Hwee there)... well Adrian Lee is another KBH in the legal field... Really interesting to watch. I will stand by to buy when dip at open. Lots of pockets of making money. Timing must be zhun. Last conclusion: Shortists will spend their weekends in deep agony. What they can do is to spread fear in this forum. That is all. Not vested for now.
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mrmoneymaker Member	27-Feb-2019 01:52        mrmoneymaker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I see i see, thank you for the explanation. It' s easy to create fear among investors for stocks relating to China, I almost sell my share when i  read that there may be inaccurate figures regarding how BW operate business in China and Taiwan. Keppellongist      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 01:14) Posted: Not saying the price is overvalued, Herbalife also traded at very rich valuation With the latest earning result, it definitely not too ridiculous for BW to be traded at 3.00+. But what I am saying is there is a transition period in mid 2018 with the business model to francisees. How can one be so sure the new business model will work? Based on my observation, it could be those who involved with the business as francisees who jump ahead and scooping up slowly and quietly. The number of francisees actually not that high.. One can imagine how easy for them to track what is the expected upcoming quarterly result since 60-70% revenue derived from China. Furthermore BW have high payout ratio for dividend. BBs just want to find way to milk this coy. Anyway just my POV. mrmoneymaker      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 00:36) Posted: Dont see any problem with the price of the stock, there is so many overvalued stocks in sgx, to me BW is at fair value for their busines
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Keppellongist Senior	27-Feb-2019 01:14        Keppellongist About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Not saying the price is overvalued, Herbalife also traded at very rich valuation With the latest earning result, it definitely not too ridiculous for BW to be traded at 3.00+. But what I am saying is there is a transition period in mid 2018 with the business model to francisees. How can one be so sure the new business model will work? Based on my observation, it could be those who involved with the business as francisees who jump ahead and scooping up slowly and quietly. The number of francisees actually not that high.. One can imagine how easy for them to track what is the expected upcoming quarterly result since 60-70% revenue derived from China. Furthermore BW have high payout ratio for dividend. BBs just want to find way to milk this coy. Anyway just my POV. mrmoneymaker      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 00:36) Posted: Dont see any problem with the price of the stock, there is so many overvalued stocks in sgx, to me BW is at fair value for their business Keppellongist      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 00:01) Posted: I think the price moved way far ahead before the expected good results. Since mid November 2018, the price creeped up to 2.00 and hit 3.00 in early February with very consistent volume. Maybe certain BBs wanted to load up but are not willing to pay at 3+ Hence created fear, so that they can pick it up cheaper at 2.00+ Anyway just my POV.
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mrmoneymaker Member	27-Feb-2019 00:36        mrmoneymaker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont see any problem with the price of the stock, there is so many overvalued stocks in sgx, to me BW is at fair value for their business Keppellongist      ( Date: 27-Feb-2019 00:01) Posted: I think the price moved way far ahead before the expected good results. Since mid November 2018, the price creeped up to 2.00 and hit 3.00 in early February with very consistent volume. Maybe certain BBs wanted to load up but are not willing to pay at 3+ Hence created fear, so that they can pick it up cheaper at 2.00+ Anyway just my POV.
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Keppellongist Senior	27-Feb-2019 00:01        Keppellongist About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think the price moved way far ahead before the expected good results. Since mid November 2018, the price creeped up to 2.00 and hit 3.00 in early February with very consistent volume. Maybe certain BBs wanted to load up but are not willing to pay at 3+ Hence created fear, so that they can pick it up cheaper at 2.00+ Anyway just my POV.
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