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How much TP?
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n3wbie
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28-Nov-2017 08:17
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personally, I think that Kimly is a well-oiled machine, and growth should be split into two aspects, organic and inorganic. Organic: evidenced by its ability to generate consistently strong positive operating CF/EBITDA. it is not a short-term play as you can see from the latest results commentary that the Group continues to invest in the future such as implementing ERP software system to manage and automate backend office functions and more importantly their central kitchen set-up.  these initiatives would strengthen the underlying fundamentals of the Group to be more cost effective, systematic which would give them the comparative advantage against the smaller/unlisted peers. this may not grow the top-line much but over-time should improve margins with reduced expenses due to automation and overall quality of food (consistency managed by central kitchen). Inorganic: M& A - they' ve also indicated that they are actively pursing opportunities. the question is how much are they willing to pay to buy out the smaller players? two years ago on 15 Jul 2015, Kimly' s unlisted competitor Chang Cheng acquired two kopitiams at $31m  (ST article attached for ease of reference). cannot imagine the timeframe to breakeven (in terms of cost recovery though EBITDA should breakeven fairly quickly given that these acquisitions are brownfield). |
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oldcoconut
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28-Nov-2017 00:54
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Thanks for yr kind thougjts. My avg is 0.48.
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wcp2017
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27-Nov-2017 11:33
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Depends . If Kimly uses $85 mil cash war chest go Geylang buy up some freehold commercial properties to earn rental income and to open ownself 24 hr Geylang dim sum coffeeshop restaurant , sure shoot up.
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fatpanda
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27-Nov-2017 11:08
Yells: "Another wonderful day!" |
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Probably range bound between 35c - 37c in near term. | ||||
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wcp2017
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27-Nov-2017 11:08
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If a Spore company like tung lok lose $, then next qtr improves by losing lesser $ again, considered BUY stock. Loss making = burning cash . LOL. This is how our market function lah | ||||
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hawkeye2010
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27-Nov-2017 11:03
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Full-year earnings slip..... Although I have sold out all, I still hope your wish comes true. Cheers!
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oldcoconut
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27-Nov-2017 10:55
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Hope it cross 40 c soon.
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wcp2017
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27-Nov-2017 10:39
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Make $ . Give dividend. Cash horde $85 mil. In Singapore, they like to buy loss making conpanies, dont give dividends n turn around cinderella story stock like noble. This is Spore lah. | ||||
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hawkeye2010
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27-Nov-2017 10:00
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https://www.theedgesingapore.com/kimlys-full-year-earnings-slip-115-214-mil-higher-expenses Sorry. I removed my post before seeing yours. I did not want to give the impression that I am shorting Kimly which I am not. I cut my losses earlier this month at 37.5 which is a 10-cent loss from 47.5. Ouch!
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oldcoconut
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27-Nov-2017 09:52
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Dont understand why kimly shares fall. Profit up. Thought will finally cross 40 cos 30 pls v long.
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oldcoconut
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26-Nov-2017 01:48
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Hope kimly chiong soon. Profit up 👍
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Volmax
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25-Nov-2017 18:16
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Organic growth will take years to realized and may need some time to be profitable.
Since Kimly is the first listed coffeeshop chain, I would rather the Management use the cash for M& A to gain more Market shares before the rest of the chains starts getting listed. Although the 85m may not be adequate to buy out another target group, they can always issue shares to make up the difference like how they did with the few of the recent aquisitions. More importantly, they must make use of the first mover advantage and ability to issue shares to grow to become the market leader quickly, in order to monopolize the market.
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wcp2017
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25-Nov-2017 16:23
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I think very soon can see 40s again. Results very good. Steady revenue and profit. Especially like the high cash flow they are generatiing. With their Central Kitchen ready, productivity will increase resulting in cost efficsncy. About $80 cash horde. Hope they go in properties. Buy up some shop units to generate steady rental income and for future capital appreciation (2nd Chance was quick to do so and that is why still doing well. Heshe on the other hand didnt do what 2nd Chance did and thus didnt make it) Keep $40 mil and $40 mil to buy into properties. If say I buy into 2 shop units in Chinatown, I have the choice to either rent it out or keep them to do iwn Kimly business. Like high margin desserts shops. Anyway with $80 mil cash horde, their prospect is very good. | ||||
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Volmax
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25-Nov-2017 14:48
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Net profit within forecast of 22m and estimsted FY dividend of 1c. Triump card is the M& A...... 85m cash, hmmm.....which coffeeshop chain to pick  up...
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Volmax
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24-Nov-2017 23:48
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Should have some news coming out soon.   " The Group is also actively exploring suitable opportunities to grow its business through acquisitions, joint ventures and form strategic alliances with parties who can help us strengthen our market position" .
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guards80
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24-Nov-2017 23:34
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Kimly posts S$5m Q4 profit on higher revenue COFFEE shop operator Kimly Limited reported S$4.98 million of net profit attributable to owners of the company for the fourth quarter ended Sept 30, up from S$2.5 million a year ago. This brings the full fiscal-year net profit to S$21.4 million, 76 per cent more than the preceding year. But the surge was mainly technical, due to a restructuring exercise in shareholding structure when Kimly was listed on the Catalist board in March this year. This resulted in S$2.5 million and S$12 million of net profit in Q4 2016 and fiscal 2016, respectively being attributable to non-controlling interests. Assuming the restructuring exercise had been completed before fiscal 2016, there would be no profit attributable to non-controlling interest. Hence, net profit for the fourth quarter would have been 2 per cent lower year on year while net profit for the full year ended Sept 30 would have been 12 per cent lower than a year ago.
The group reported a 9.2 per cent growth in revenue for the fourth quarter to S$50 million and a 12 per cent growth to S$192.1 million for the full year.
Its full-year revenue growth was driven by broad-based growth in both business divisions - the outlet management division and the food retail division. In line with its healthy financial performance, the board of directors has proposed a final dividend of 0.68 Singapore cent per share to be paid. Together with the interim dividend of 0.28 Singapore cent per share paid in June 2017, the total dividend declared in fiscal 2017 was 0.96 Singapore cent per share. Kimly said it anticipates the F& B industry to remain challenging and will remain vigilant about controlling cost, lowering operating expenses and increasing productivity. " We are aware of the intense competition and tight labour situation within the F& B industry,and therefore we are adopting technology to improve work processes and maximise our manpower resources to boost productivity and operation efficiency," said Kimly executive director Vincent Chia. |
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guards80
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24-Nov-2017 20:55
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Kimly: Financial Statements and Related Announcement :: Full Yearly Resultshttp://repository.shareinvestor.com/rpt_view.pl/id/713773.1/type/sgxnet/original_filename/1 http://repository.shareinvestor.com/rpt_view.pl/id/713773.2/type/sgxnet/original_filename/1 |
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guards80
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24-Nov-2017 18:54
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Monday huat. With dividend delcared | ||||
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sengsk
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23-Nov-2017 08:57
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I use Fibo which there' s no right or wrong. In the markets, everyone got their own tactic of way for trading. Its just a sharing of though, Hope it doesn' t offend you.
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mariners
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23-Nov-2017 01:37
Yells: "FA tells me what to buy, TA tells me when to buy" |
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20%~ loss, really heavy bro. Going to hold out or become dividend play? Anyway two days back it was credit suisse that sold out their line. I was waiting hoping it was a shakeout but seems like no demand. The FA is good but probably too overvalued. Those aquisitions made with 0.5 placement, the former owners are probably cussing somewhere.
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