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EZ3626
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15-Dec-2014 11:51
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some of the bloggers also disappeared ... hope they are ok .... frankly if they come over to yuuzoo ... would have gotten back some kopi monies. one last chance ... yuuzoo is going to charge all the way until new year over 0.50 tp 0.60.  all the supporters of yuuzoo welcome you ... next gust of wind will propel yuuzoo to 0.60 and beyond lai arh lai arh cross over to yuuzoo |
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EZ3626
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15-Dec-2014 09:51
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cf is unpredictable unlike yuuzoo, fish is need as human food and cannot be replaced. believe if the company can transform and integrate the operation, it will be like cola cola which warren buffet invested and paying him well.  due to 2 fishing season closed, the price of fish meal shot up ... and expect anchovy recovery 1 season 2015.   today, if i am not wrong touches a new low. shall wait and see ... now still pretty confusing and unclear with the direction ... sun comes up and the mist will disappear. if go in will be for medium term ... haha .... say say only   
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12-Dec-2014 21:02
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Osim was about $2/= in 2007 and dropped to 5 cts in 2009,   then STI was 3,600 in 2007 and 1,500 in 2009.. now STI is 3,300.. and when STI is 1,500,   what will be the price of PARD and CF? |
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12-Dec-2014 11:21
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Press down to 3c, pl.  Then we buy n hold almost sure better chance of making a fortune than buy 4D.  Remember OSIM at 5c a few yrs ago?
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12-Dec-2014 08:47
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How to expect Pac Andes to rally when there is a rights exercise ! |
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12-Dec-2014 08:42
Yells: "Don't follow my investment strategies..I m a big risker" |
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Pacv Andes rallying soon???
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Qanghoo
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12-Dec-2014 00:32
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Peru fishmeal px closed Nov at US2204,> 10% on Oct 14 closing px of 1985.  If Dec fishing season burnt, maybe px cld sky-rocket.  Qn is how much inventory of anchovy does CF  still hold to turn into fishmeal.
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EZ3626
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12-Dec-2014 00:23
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 Report is so confusing .... haha ... guess it is good to wait and seeFishmeal players expect Peru anchovy recovery by first season of 2015
December 11, 2014, 7:46 am
However,  producers canvassed by  Undercurrent  believe the poor stock situation, which has sent  fishmeal prices soaring  while stocks in China and Peru are running low, is shortlived. &ldquo New data released and findings on sizes indicate that complete normalization of anchovy stock will take place in October next year, although we don&rsquo t know about the volumes,&rdquo Tasa&rsquo s Speziani said. Peru fishmeal prices stay high as bids could climb further for remaining stock   |
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11-Dec-2014 10:47
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Sorry.. no season and quota for December.. http://www.seafoodnews.com/Story/955017/IMARPE-declares-no-Peruvian-December-anchovy-season-pushing-global-2015-fishmeal-forecasts-lower MARPE declares no Peruvian December anchovy season, pushing global 2015 fishmeal forecasts even lower SEAFOODNEWS.COM   by John Sackton Dec 8, 2014
As has been widely expected, Peru' s Marine Institute (IMARPE), has declared that there will be no second season for Peruvian anchovy this December.
 
This will push the shortfall of global fishmeal and oil supplies to more than 10% below 2014 levels.
 
Last month, Oil world forecast a reduction in global fishmeal production to an " extremely low 4.12 million metric tons " , which would represent about a 10% reduction from the current year (september to september).
 
Now they will likely revise that forecast downward, as they did not factor in a complete closure of Peru for the December-January fishing season
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EZ3626
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09-Dec-2014 00:32
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You can say that ... It is going get worse before it get better. Unless you want to wait. Otherwise, .....
Good news for you .... Technology investors are gearing up for a holiday shopping spree. If you are getting worried, how about coming over Yuuzoo. 😜 👏 🎶 |
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08-Dec-2014 18:03
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This China Fish jialat.. lost another 5,5% today to 0.260.. almost 10 cts from 0.360,   the glorier past. |
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04-Dec-2014 11:27
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The Peru fishing session is speculated to close also for 1st fishing season from May 2015 to July 2015.. Peru Gov has a contingency plan.. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:c3thxnnldVMJ:www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/11/06/anxiety-high-in-peru-as-fears-now-loom-over-2015-anchovy-season/+& cd=2& hl=en& ct=clnk& gl=sg Contingency plan http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/11/04/peru-puts-in-place-contingency-plan-as-it-awaits-new-anchovy-fishery-data/       |
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03-Dec-2014 12:17
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That oil world report trustworthy? It said Imarpe has low fish findings as if it does not know the fish were pushed closer to the land and out of the traditional fishing zones.. Imparpe carries out fish survey regularly for fishing quotas to be set.   It has to know where are the fishes are,   how much are there   and how big they are.. http://www.imarpe.pe/imarpe/archivos/informes/imarpe_bsnino_bolet_sem_nino_20al26nov14.pdf
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EZ3626
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03-Dec-2014 09:23
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Woah guys .... how to have chung chung perfect score   .... weak, or moderate at best is pretty much a fair report. " Further warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean  is likely, so it also remains possible that the ocean and atmosphere will fully couple in the coming weeks to months," Australia&rsquo s bureau said in the fortnightly update. " If an El Nino is established, models suggest it will be weak, or moderate at best." Also, it was reported, Actual fish stocks may be higher as abnormal climate and environmental conditions along the Peruvian coast pushed fish closer to land and out of traditional fishing zones, which would partly explain Imarpe&rsquo s low findings, Oil World wrote. " It remains to be seen how far fishmeal prices have to appreciate to sufficiently ration demand in the remainder of the season," Oil World wrote. To contact the reporter on this story: Rudy Ruitenberg in Paris at [email protected] The report should be out anytime soon ....  |
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Qanghoo
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02-Dec-2014 17:31
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Even Nature is not on their side.  Otherwise, this counter has a lot of potential to really chiong.  But let' s hope EN really happens quickly (so many false starts this yr which caused uncertainty to hang over them) so that CF can soon see off the worst of their fortunes.  After that, fingers crossed, financial healing n growth cld be phenominal.
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02-Dec-2014 16:57
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Another bad year for CF.. El Nino looms in 2015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-02/what-will-the-weather-do-in-2015-weathermen-see-el-nino-risks.html   |
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01-Dec-2014 20:45
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Now we know why support at 33cts gave way recently..see the shorts   Buying-in Executed on December 1, 2014   SECURITY TOTAL QTY EXECUTED CURR TOTAL VALUE     CHINA FISHERY 200,000 S$ 58,000.00   |
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30-Nov-2014 20:28
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Same report but from Intrafish.. having negative image.. cannot trust what you read. ================================================================================================Fitch: China Fishery' s results support  negative rating Ratings agency keeps outlook negative as refinancing risk remains for Pacific Andesowned group, but operations are sound and deleveraging is on track. IntraFish Media Published: 28.11.2014 15:13 Updated: 28.11.2014 14:51 China Fishery Group results for the financial year ending Sept. 28, 2014, support its negative ratings at the current BB-/Negative level, according to Fitch Ratings.   Although the company&rsquo s operations remain sound and  deleveraging is on track with the refund from the long-term  supply agreement (LSA) with Russian suppliers, it still needs to  refinance the $250 million (&euro 201 million) bond issued by  Corporacion Pesquera Inca, a subsidiary of Peruvian Copeinca  ASA -- which China Fishery acquired in 2013 -- by March 16,2015. &ldquo The negative outlook on China Fishery' s rating reflects this risk,&rdquo said Fitch in an update.  China Fishery is exploring various options to address this, including support from its shareholders. If the  refinancing needs are addressed adequately, Fitch may revise the outlook to stable, it said. In the full financial year of 2014, cost savings from the enlarged Peruvian fishmeal operations started to  take effect. As a result, revenue increased by 13.7 percent from a year earlier and earnings before interest, taxes,  depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) margin was resilient at 38.9 percent. The El Nino weather phenomenon might pose some downside risk to the total allowable catch in the  2014 second fishing season. But the underlying earnings profile of China Fishery is strengthening given the firm demand for fishmeal   savings to be realized from the further consolidation of its enlarged Peruvian business and the removal   of uncertainty of in the Russian contract supply business.   Additionally, the company' s leverage, as measured by adjusted net debt to operating earnings before  interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization and restructuring(EBITDAR) decreased to 4.4x in the  financial year of 2014 from 5.0x a year ago, driven in part by the partial refund of $111 million (&euro 89.2  million) from its long-term supply agreements (LSA) with Russian suppliers. The remaining $130.5 million (&euro 104.9 million) from the LSA is to be fully paid by March 2016.   |
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EZ3626
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29-Nov-2014 12:44
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Guys, great guessing and also trying to find the balance. Fitch: China Fishery ops remain sound
November 27, 2014, 4:52 pm
China Fishery Group' s operations remain sound and deleveraging is on track  with the refund from the long-term supply agreement (LSA) with Russian suppliers, said Fitch Ratings in a note on Wednesday. However, Fitch' s negative BB- rating on the company reflects the ongoing risk attached to the group' s need to refiance its $250 million Copeinca bonds, said Fitch. " If the refinancing needs are addressed adequately, Fitch may revise the outlook to stable," wrote the ratings agency. China Fishery is exploring various options to address the refinancing. |
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29-Nov-2014 10:43
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All are just guessing work.   Everything pins   on next Anchovy season which should start in a few weeks'   time if the Anchovy all grown up.
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SEAFOODNEWS.COM   by John Sackton Dec 8, 2014