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Sinari Member	20-Feb-2015 22:06        Sinari About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Indeed, ah kong' s stock are indeed more evident in the will to keep them alive. Anyone remembered Chartered Semiconductors? Ah Kong did not save it that time. hem2998      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 11:21) Posted: The sale of APL was a very smart move. Its better than a rights issue and it got more than the market expectation of US750mio-US900mio that was reported some time back Net gains US900m = SGD 1.2b...this is about 45c per share last FY NAV 90c so total about S$1.35 however, even DBS Vickers prices at 1.1x book, which makes it about S$1.48 fair value. with the debt/equity ratio pared doen to 1.08x, its begining to look more attractive at least on the balance sheet. all it needs is a flat or slightly positive quarter and it will start sailing again. its not gonna happen overnight , but look at SMRT and Tiger -- all the ah kong stocks and you will realise the will to keep them alive is stronger than many of the other stocks in the market.   vested sgng123      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 11:00) Posted: Who care about past stock performance as stock is priced in anticipation of  future earning / growth prospect, US in growth of 3% + this year so they got theme to speculate and time to speculate when the impasses in west coast port is resolved. Buy if u got holding power and short when it hit 1.50+ but there might be TH privatisation as they did it before but fail in 2006. And yes after divestment of APL logisitics, NOL would had problem staying listed due to no previous record of pure container plays in market all is either bundled with logistic/bulk commodity/ship building/ offshore support. For investor interest , it is best to sell off non core asset and TH privatised it buying back all share , cake walk for them since they alreayd owned like 67%. APL liner division still got 2 non revenue generating asset, west coast port terminals and 1.1 million containers fleet, both could bring in billion if divested. Broken ship still got treasure hidden away as sale of APl logitics US $1.2 B which is 64% of total market capitalisation lol. This remind me of Natsteel which is boring industrial but got hidden treasures Natsteel electronics lol. NOL NAV would be $1.36 after deal is approved by shareholder in APR 50% jack up from current NAV.
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stockhero Veteran	20-Feb-2015 20:18        stockhero About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	your target price range ($1.065 - $1.50) is far too wide to be considered a prediction, at least not a good one. it is no better than my prediction that the price will stay within the range of $0.85-$1.25 over the next 2 weeks. in a way, if my ' prediction' turns out to be accurate, it can be considered better than your because of your wider range. MetalTrader3      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 14:41) Posted: Dear All Bank Analysis (with regards from MetalTrader): ​ Dear DBS Analysis, Keep your good work up. Though you cannot analysis better than me, however it is expected. Dear Bank Analysis (CIMB & Goldman Sachs),  As an institute,kindly put in more efforts in your analysis.  Dear OCBC Analysis, If you have no passion/ talent in doing your job well, it is advisable that you quit your job. You are doing very poor in analysis since last year.  MetalTrader3      ( Date: 18-Feb-2015 22:04) Posted: Edited 18 Feb -    NOL closed@ $1.02, with    a height of $1.065. Ranking Majority of Banks, including MetalTrader, had    positive view on NOL profitability  in 2015. Rank#1  MetalTrader- ($1.065 to $1.50) range}    This price had been  predicted in 2014, with reputation bet within stated timeline.     (Hit on spot with height $1.065 & predicted earlier than many Analysis with Reputation Bet. *Accuracy Higher than Banks, & do not change analysis.) Rank# 2  DBS- $1.10 (Buy)                           } Price Analysis on 16 Feb 2015 (2nd Runner Up, using " Buy" , then " Hold" ) Rank# 3  CIMB- $1.06 (Hold):                       } Price Analysis on 16 Feb 2015 (Exceeded $1.06 on 18 Feb) Rank# 4  Goldman Sachs- $1 (Hold)               } Price Analysis on 16 Feb 2015   (Exceeded $1 on 18 Feb) Out of Ranking OCBC (Excluded & Not Reccomended- Late, Making False Analysis, Inaccurate from time to time)
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ysh2006 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 15:23        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This NOL with good news like selling APL at good price only up little...so what BT " Hock LS" said sometimes correct " NOL sell almost everything ...now got any more thing to sell" ? I think soon will be like Memstar a " shell" company.
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 14:41        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dear All Bank Analysis (with regards from MetalTrader): ​ Dear DBS Analysis, Keep your good work up. Though you cannot analysis better than me, however it is expected. Dear Bank Analysis (CIMB & Goldman Sachs),  As an institute,kindly put in more efforts in your analysis.  Dear OCBC Analysis, If you have no passion/ talent in doing your job well, it is advisable that you quit your job. You are doing very poor in analysis since last year.  MetalTrader3      ( Date: 18-Feb-2015 22:04) Posted: Edited 18 Feb -    NOL closed@ $1.02, with    a height of $1.065. Ranking Majority of Banks, including MetalTrader, had    positive view on NOL profitability  in 2015. Rank#1  MetalTrader- ($1.065 to $1.50) range}    This price had been  predicted in 2014, with reputation bet within stated timeline.     (Hit on spot with height $1.065 & predicted earlier than many Analysis with Reputation Bet. *Accuracy Higher than Banks, & do not change analysis.) Rank# 2  DBS- $1.10 (Buy)                           } Price Analysis on 16 Feb 2015 (2nd Runner Up, using " Buy" , then " Hold" ) Rank# 3  CIMB- $1.06 (Hold):                       } Price Analysis on 16 Feb 2015 (Exceeded $1.06 on 18 Feb) Rank# 4  Goldman Sachs- $1 (Hold)               } Price Analysis on 16 Feb 2015   (Exceeded $1 on 18 Feb) Out of Ranking OCBC (Excluded & Not Reccomended- Late, Making False Analysis, Inaccurate from time to time)   MetalTrader3      ( Date: 18-Feb-2015 15:22) Posted: 18 Feb - NOL closed@ $1.02, with a height of $1.065. King of All Analysis MetalTrader- ($1.065 to $1.50) range} This price had been predicted in 2014, with reputation bet within stated timeline.  $1.065 Actualized. To be continue..
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 13:44        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If one is destined to make profits in stock market, one will. However, if one is not destined to make profits, one will not. This is the rule of trading realm!
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 13:31        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fyi: I had predicted many up/down stocks from MetalTrader to MetalTrader2 to MetalTrader3. 1) My prediction is what I foresee. 2) I follow nobody's order. I do not give advise on buy/sell. My prediction is a consideration for others. (Pls do your own analysis before buy/sell). Thank You. ysh2006      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 08:41) Posted: yes those  stock can make a person make money is a good stock...So  NOL now  buy or sell  ?  no prediction.please! MetalTrader3      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 03:58) Posted: Happy Chinese New Year Greeting Do not test my limit or My Financial Knowledge in Trading Realm. Many had tried, including A+ students in Financial Accounting. For my way is not your way :) Nice Song, Enjoy: GodOfGamblers (賭 神 ） https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87PFerrYsE& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg& index=11
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hem2998 Veteran	20-Feb-2015 11:21        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The sale of APL was a very smart move. Its better than a rights issue and it got more than the market expectation of US750mio-US900mio that was reported some time back Net gains US900m = SGD 1.2b...this is about 45c per share last FY NAV 90c so total about S$1.35 however, even DBS Vickers prices at 1.1x book, which makes it about S$1.48 fair value. with the debt/equity ratio pared doen to 1.08x, its begining to look more attractive at least on the balance sheet. all it needs is a flat or slightly positive quarter and it will start sailing again. its not gonna happen overnight , but look at SMRT and Tiger -- all the ah kong stocks and you will realise the will to keep them alive is stronger than many of the other stocks in the market.   vested sgng123      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 11:00) Posted: Who care about past stock performance as stock is priced in anticipation of  future earning / growth prospect, US in growth of 3% + this year so they got theme to speculate and time to speculate when the impasses in west coast port is resolved. Buy if u got holding power and short when it hit 1.50+ but there might be TH privatisation as they did it before but fail in 2006. And yes after divestment of APL logisitics, NOL would had problem staying listed due to no previous record of pure container plays in market all is either bundled with logistic/bulk commodity/ship building/ offshore support. For investor interest , it is best to sell off non core asset and TH privatised it buying back all share , cake walk for them since they alreayd owned like 67%. APL liner division still got 2 non revenue generating asset, west coast port terminals and 1.1 million containers fleet, both could bring in billion if divested. Broken ship still got treasure hidden away as sale of APl logitics US $1.2 B which is 64% of total market capitalisation lol. This remind me of Natsteel which is boring industrial but got hidden treasures Natsteel electronics lol. NOL NAV would be $1.36 after deal is approved by shareholder in APR 50% jack up from current NAV. ysh2006      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 08:41) Posted: yes those  stock can make a person make money is a good stock...So  NOL now  buy or sell  ?  no prediction.please!
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sgng123 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 11:00        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Who care about past stock performance as stock is priced in anticipation of  future earning / growth prospect, US in growth of 3% + this year so they got theme to speculate and time to speculate when the impasses in west coast port is resolved. Buy if u got holding power and short when it hit 1.50+ but there might be TH privatisation as they did it before but fail in 2006. And yes after divestment of APL logisitics, NOL would had problem staying listed due to no previous record of pure container plays in market all is either bundled with logistic/bulk commodity/ship building/ offshore support. For investor interest , it is best to sell off non core asset and TH privatised it buying back all share , cake walk for them since they alreayd owned like 67%. APL liner division still got 2 non revenue generating asset, west coast port terminals and 1.1 million containers fleet, both could bring in billion if divested. Broken ship still got treasure hidden away as sale of APl logitics US $1.2 B which is 64% of total market capitalisation lol. This remind me of Natsteel which is boring industrial but got hidden treasures Natsteel electronics lol. NOL NAV would be $1.36 after deal is approved by shareholder in APR 50% jack up from current NAV. ysh2006      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 08:41) Posted: yes those  stock can make a person make money is a good stock...So  NOL now  buy or sell  ?  no prediction.please! MetalTrader3      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 03:58) Posted: Happy Chinese New Year Greeting Do not test my limit or My Financial Knowledge in Trading Realm. Many had tried, including A+ students in Financial Accounting. For my way is not your way :) Nice Song, Enjoy: GodOfGamblers (賭 神 ） https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87PFerrYsE& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg& index=11
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ysh2006 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 08:41        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yes those  stock can make a person make money is a good stock...So  NOL now  buy or sell  ?  no prediction.please! MetalTrader3      ( Date: 20-Feb-2015 03:58) Posted: Happy Chinese New Year Greeting Do not test my limit or My Financial Knowledge in Trading Realm. Many had tried, including A+ students in Financial Accounting. For my way is not your way :) Nice Song, Enjoy: GodOfGamblers (賭 神 ） https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87PFerrYsE& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg& index=11
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 03:58        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Happy Chinese New Year Greeting Do not test my limit or My Financial Knowledge in Trading Realm. Many had tried, including A+ students in Financial Accounting. For my way is not your way :) Nice Song, Enjoy: GodOfGamblers (賭 神 ） https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87PFerrYsE& list=FLIGZIWveB2xf_-PhUBfo0Mg& index=11
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kangtao888 Member	20-Feb-2015 02:15        kangtao888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Privatisation play, got chance? Sell APL then pay special dvd to share holders, then Temasek come in buy all, privatise and repackage and sell?
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nqing87 Supreme	20-Feb-2015 01:03        nqing87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	have to respect MT ability to predict things accurately that doesnt make sense to many.. vallianz & NOL both high debt.. both are trading below their NAV.. vallianz making profit & increasing profit as well, NOL continue making its losses.. however, market sense decides to give a very low valuation to vallianz, and a good one to NOL.. at the end of the day, what' s most impt is the ability to predict accurately how share price is going, in order to make money.. i think many of us keep having differences with MT, ' cos things doesnt make logical sense to us at all.. but well, market is irrational and logic doesnt work many times..  MetalTrader3      ( Date: 19-Feb-2015 18:01) Posted: Moo Hahahaha! As in 2014, i warned about Vallianz, However, you claimed upside. Today, Vallianz had dropped more than half. So, now you are officially challenging me :) darocupcake      ( Date: 19-Feb-2015 07:33) Posted: what a joke of the yr lo
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enjoylife77 Veteran	20-Feb-2015 00:30        enjoylife77 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yet many retailer so eager to buy into a heavily bleeding counter. hmphie      ( Date: 19-Feb-2015 10:51) Posted: No one will buy a bleeding co. Looks like NOL is coming to the end of the road. enjoylife77      ( Date: 19-Feb-2015 06:49) Posted: Sell the profitable division and feed the  heavy bleeding  division? Is this business model sustainable? Are shareholder ready to face the harsh reality again in few years time? Over capacity is here to stay.
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hem2998 Veteran	19-Feb-2015 18:57        hem2998 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Whats the NAV after the sale?
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	19-Feb-2015 18:01        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Moo Hahahaha! As in 2014, i warned about Vallianz, However, you claimed upside. Today, Vallianz had dropped more than half. So, now you are officially challenging me :) darocupcake      ( Date: 19-Feb-2015 07:33) Posted: what a joke of the yr lol MetalTrader3      ( Date: 18-Feb-2015 23:30) Posted: Actualized 18 Feb -                    NOL closed@ $1.02, with  a height of  $1.065.      (Prediction Price in 2014)
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hmphie Veteran	19-Feb-2015 10:51        hmphie About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No one will buy a bleeding co. Looks like NOL is coming to the end of the road. enjoylife77      ( Date: 19-Feb-2015 06:49) Posted: Sell the profitable division and feed the  heavy bleeding  division? Is this business model sustainable? Are shareholder ready to face the harsh reality again in few years time? Over capacity is here to stay.
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darocupcake Master	19-Feb-2015 07:33        darocupcake About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	what a joke of the yr lol MetalTrader3      ( Date: 18-Feb-2015 23:30) Posted: Actualized 18 Feb -                    NOL closed@ $1.02, with  a height of  $1.065.      (Prediction Price in 2014) MetalTrader3      ( Date: 27-Jan-2015 22:15) Posted: My name shall becomes a Legend in stock market history in Today, Tommorrow & in the future. I am GodOfPredictor!
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enjoylife77 Veteran	19-Feb-2015 06:49        enjoylife77 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sell the profitable division and feed the  heavy bleeding  division? Is this business model sustainable? Are shareholder ready to face the harsh reality again in few years time? Over capacity is here to stay.
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	18-Feb-2015 23:30        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Actualized 18 Feb -                    NOL closed@ $1.02, with  a height of  $1.065.      (Prediction Price in 2014) MetalTrader3      ( Date: 27-Jan-2015 22:15) Posted: My name shall becomes a Legend in stock market history in Today, Tommorrow & in the future. I am GodOfPredictor!
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MetalTrader3 Supreme	18-Feb-2015 23:28        MetalTrader3 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	18 Feb -                    NOL closed@ $1.02, with        a height of  $1.065 To be continue..  MetalTrader3      ( Date: 04-Feb-2015 04:52) Posted: Time do not lie. A sleeping dragon (NOL) underneath the waves waiting to be awaken. In term of its assets & market real value, NOL is the leader of container shipping stock in SGX.
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