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davidoch Senior	06-Mar-2017 09:21        davidoch About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TT, u r right. Going for course this month to ctach up the undertsanding on how market work and ... TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 09:18) Posted: Basically, if you can hold until end of march, you should have chance of making a profit.. Next time if you want to buy wait for techhnical indicators to give   turn-around signals davidoch      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:50) Posted: Hope u r right, finger crossed...
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 09:19        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Chart at 9am at Monday open( ) based on price at 52-52.5(if still at this price) Support 51-51.5(4hr low bollinger), 50.5(month mid bollinger) Resistance 52-52.5( 4hr mid bollinger) and 54(Day midbollinger ) 58-59(month upper bollinger. Trend line: 15mins and 30mins uptrend, 1hr 2hr, sideline 4hr downtrend Next action: safeguard the 50.5-51 support level, turn 4hr to uptrend and swing up. Soy oil price and cpo price play big role of price movement. FA undervalued.
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TechnicalTrader Master	06-Mar-2017 09:18        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Basically, if you can hold until end of march, you should have chance of making a profit.. Next time if you want to buy wait for techhnical indicators to give   turn-around signals davidoch      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:50) Posted: Hope u r right, finger crossed... TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:12) Posted: My " guess" is banking should up slightly today... at least in the morning
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davidoch Senior	06-Mar-2017 08:56        davidoch About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Amada, do u have any opinion on OCBC ? amandayoung      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:53) Posted: eb14 talked so much just becos he wants to buy Noble cheap cos he missed the boat from 17 cts to (22 to 28 cts). As simple as that. eb14 had no results at noble at range 20 to 28 cents. No shorts longs gains. When noble shot up to 28 cts eb14 "disappeared" from noble thread. It is very obvious. Now with SINOCHEM rumors eb14 have more "worries" that if sinochem rumors become OK, noble will shoot up above 30 cents and that make eb14 more sour. ........
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amandayoung Elite	06-Mar-2017 08:53        amandayoung About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	eb14 talked so much just becos he wants to buy Noble cheap cos he missed the boat from 17 cts to (22 to 28 cts). As simple as that. eb14 had no results at noble at range 20 to 28 cents. No shorts longs gains. When noble shot up to 28 cts eb14 "disappeared" from noble thread. It is very obvious. Now with SINOCHEM rumors eb14 have more "worries" that if sinochem rumors become OK, noble will shoot up above 30 cents and that make eb14 more sour. ........
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davidoch Senior	06-Mar-2017 08:50        davidoch About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope u r right, finger crossed... TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:12) Posted: My " guess" is banking should up slightly today... at least in the morning TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:08) Posted: has not been good... but there was a sudden drop at around 755am
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TechnicalTrader Master	06-Mar-2017 08:33        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is how Spackman is going to spend proceedings from the placement of new shares. Today announcement SPACKMAN ENTERTAINMENT GROUP ENTERS INTO NON-BINDING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE PROPOSED ACQUISITION OF FRAME PICTURES CO., LTD. &bull Frame Pictures is a leading movie/drama equipment leasing player in Korea&rsquo s entertainment sector &bull Proposed acquisition of Frame Pictures to help create a more diversified and consistent revenue stream &bull Group is strategically positioned to further enhance the performance of Frame Pictures   for future details visit sgx announcement page at  http://infopub.sgx.com/FileOpen/SEGL_Press_Release_MOU_6_March_2017.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=442217
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TechnicalTrader Master	06-Mar-2017 08:12        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My " guess" is banking should up slightly today... at least in the morning TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:08) Posted: has not been good... but there was a sudden drop at around 755am earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:02) Posted: Bad opening at us and Europe pre market
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TechnicalTrader Master	06-Mar-2017 08:08        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	has not been good... but there was a sudden drop at around 755am earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 08:02) Posted: Bad opening at us and Europe pre market
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 08:02        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bad opening at us and Europe pre market
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TechnicalTrader Master	06-Mar-2017 07:55        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CFTC: Speculators More Bullish on Gold, S& P 500, AUD The Commodity Futures Trading Commission released its weekly Commitments of Traders report for the week ending February 28 on Friday. Speculative positioning in the CME and ICE currency, commodity, energy and index futures:         Long Short   Net Prior Change Gross Change Gross Change EUR -51.2k -58.3k 7.1k 143.6k 12.6k 194.7k 5.5k GBP -70.7k -66.4k -4.3k 43.3k 5.1k 114.0k 9.4k JPY -50.0k -50.2k 0.1k 29.0k -0.9k 79.0k -1.1k CHF -11.8k -8.9k -2.9k 3.6k -3.4k 15.4k -0.5k CAD 30.1k 24.6k 5.5k 63.1k 4.3k 33.0k -1.2k AUD 51.9k 33.5k 18.4k 95.7k 6.9k 43.8k -11.5k NZD 2.9k 3.2k -0.2k 37.2k 1.9k 34.3k 2.2k MXN -45.8k -56.5k 10.7k 39.1k 3.9k 84.8k -6.8k S& P 500 86.6k 30.8k 55.9k 578.6k 70.3k 492.0k 14.4k Gold 163.8k 123.8k 40.0k 247.5k 27.8k 83.7k -12.2k Silver 95.4k 88.0k 7.4k 115.2k 6.4k 19.8k -1.0k Copper 38.0k 42.8k -4.8k 120.9k -7.3k 82.9k -2.5k RUB 17.2k 17.7k -0.5k 18.3k -0.9k 1.1k -0.4k Crude Oil 525.3k 556.6k -31.4k 690.3k -22.4k 165.0k 8.9k
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TechnicalTrader Master	06-Mar-2017 07:35        TechnicalTrader About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Traders perform TA using TI. Success rely on Technique used"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:36) Posted: Uptrend or not, see how this week. But you know I am the prove me with result type, so I have posted mine in noble, i mostly don't agree below😁 😁 😁 1) in fact, operation improve compared to 2015 from gross profit, but again still has to see cash flow. In this market, a lot company doing charity, mean they know the customer has difficulty to pay them money after you deliver the goods to them, but they still do. So record gross profit but cash never come back. This is one of problem why noble cash flow is negative, 2nd is cover their fair value gain, in fact I see a 2nd year continue lower down the net fair value gain which is positive, 3rd is to cover their loss making on selling stock pile. So the negative cash flow take time to remove the bad transaction in the past. How long it take, I also wait for it. So I keep pressuring cash flow. Since to cover this they have to sell underwear 1 by 1 till they absorb the bad transaction and their cash flow will be back to black. 2) no upgrade mean moody don't see improvement as mentioned at 1, they are credit rating firm so they focus more on cash flow generation to pay debt rather than how much company earn, again gross profit is on book if you make profit in your business and whether you receive cash from customers are from cash flow. Both are important but different things. 3) this one is TA. Chart will tell us and market will tell us. 4) I also posted differences between stake buying and take over offer in noble thread. For stake buying, of course price lower, the better since objective of stake buying for big company are same as us, dividend and potential of share price appreciation. No dividend is price appreciation, if both no, why buy leh. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 05-Mar-2017 22:57) Posted: Looked like retailers are convinced that Noble will continue uptrend this week. I just repost here some of my concern here. 1,    While the FY2016 results might giive some light to the company. Investors are not particularly impressed. To me, current share price might have factored in the improved prospect outlook of the stock. Share price has been significantly moved up from Q3 (~17cts) to now Q4 (~22cts) already. A 29% increase. Enough?  2. Moody does not bother to consider uany rating review on Noble. To me, it shows that Moody is not impressed by Q4 improvement. This was my final hope on Noble for the next two months.  3. Those retailers who had sold their holdings around 27cts are eagerly waiting to re-enter. I observed that there has been accumulation at around current level. Low volume in the past few days suggest that selling pressure has lightened. To me, a break-out above 22.5cts then is considered " safer" to buy.    4. Retailers especially new buyers has to be careful about anotehr bull trap. Hoping it is not though. 5. Another concern is if the share price is going to move up too high, it may even jeopardize the deal with SinoChem. They will not likely hope to see the price going up before the deal is made.    I am still observing if the break-out from this    Range-bounded will be materalized on these coming days. It is just my opinion
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 07:25        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don't play penny. Since no reason for me to play penny. With such risk, I would rather play forex or index at least cost involved in every transaction is low and all rely on TA. Then more bbs involved less manipulation. Penny is full of manipulation, can't beat them most of the time you trade with them with your luck. Penny won't give dividend too. earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 07:19) Posted: So penny stock is also a shell company. Sgx has a lot. From time to time, some bbs or people will borrow shell to run business, 借 壳 上 市 . But how many of them are real, we don't know. So the 3 penny stock all like that. Isdn too in 2012-2013 when penny stock run crazy. I always say stock market is FA TA and experience. Only through experience you can know what old story they want to cook. From time to time generation to generation, people tend to forget and new batch of generation join stock market, so old story still useful. U ask experience people, they know what is going on, just smile and don't want to talk more since they can't ask you to sell since price may in rally mode, ask you to sell miss boat, you blame them. But 1 day something happen free fall till the ground. So no much FA to tell about shell company. earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 07:13) Posted: No wonder sound familiar for isdn. This was the 4th penny stock avoid Mas and sgx investigation for speculation from penny to 1 dollar plus. Chart not in ig chart list. Only 2 type of stock not in IG list low cap and penny stock. So it is a penny stock, casino machine. You only can deal with them with TA. Their FA or balance sheet are always the same, flat flat flat. Flat in profit or loss, flat in cash flow generation. Mean? Fake fake fake
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 07:19        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So penny stock is also a shell company. Sgx has a lot. From time to time, some bbs or people will borrow shell to run business, 借 壳 上 市 . But how many of them are real, we don't know. So the 3 penny stock all like that. Isdn too in 2012-2013 when penny stock run crazy. I always say stock market is FA TA and experience. Only through experience you can know what old story they want to cook. From time to time generation to generation, people tend to forget and new batch of generation join stock market, so old story still useful. U ask experience people, they know what is going on, just smile and don't want to talk more since they can't ask you to sell since price may in rally mode, ask you to sell miss boat, you blame them. But 1 day something happen free fall till the ground. So no much FA to tell about shell company. earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 07:13) Posted: No wonder sound familiar for isdn. This was the 4th penny stock avoid Mas and sgx investigation for speculation from penny to 1 dollar plus. Chart not in ig chart list. Only 2 type of stock not in IG list low cap and penny stock. So it is a penny stock, casino machine. You only can deal with them with TA. Their FA or balance sheet are always the same, flat flat flat. Flat in profit or loss, flat in cash flow generation. Mean? Fake fake fake. Daxtheman      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:56) Posted: ISDN first can? Mid Cap
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 07:13        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No wonder sound familiar for isdn. This was the 4th penny stock avoid Mas and sgx investigation for speculation from penny to 1 dollar plus. Chart not in ig chart list. Only 2 type of stock not in IG list low cap and penny stock. So it is a penny stock, casino machine. You only can deal with them with TA. Their FA or balance sheet are always the same, flat flat flat. Flat in profit or loss, flat in cash flow generation. Mean? Fake fake fake. Daxtheman      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:56) Posted: ISDN first can? Mid Cap
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 07:04        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Who did charity work in sgx most? swiber and Ezra Loh, who else? Customers in Africa, Vietnam and etc. record profit year by year, cash flow not improved. Then when time come, burst. earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:36) Posted: Uptrend or not, see how this week. But you know I am the prove me with result type, so I have posted mine in noble, i mostly don't agree below😁 😁 😁 1) in fact, operation improve compared to 2015 from gross profit, but again still has to see cash flow. In this market, a lot company doing charity, mean they know the customer has difficulty to pay them money after you deliver the goods to them, but they still do. So record gross profit but cash never come back. This is one of problem why noble cash flow is negative, 2nd is cover their fair value gain, in fact I see a 2nd year continue lower down the net fair value gain which is positive, 3rd is to cover their loss making on selling stock pile. So the negative cash flow take time to remove the bad transaction in the past. How long it take, I also wait for it. So I keep pressuring cash flow. Since to cover this they have to sell underwear 1 by 1 till they absorb the bad transaction and their cash flow will be back to black. 2) no upgrade mean moody don't see improvement as mentioned at 1, they are credit rating firm so they focus more on cash flow generation to pay debt rather than how much company earn, again gross profit is on book if you make profit in your business and whether you receive cash from customers are from cash flow. Both are important but different things. 3) this one is TA. Chart will tell us and market will tell us. 4) I also posted differences between stake buying and take over offer in noble thread. For stake buying, of course price lower, the better since objective of stake buying for big company are same as us, dividend and potential of share price appreciation. No dividend is price appreciation, if both no, why buy leh. TechnicalTrader      ( Date: 05-Mar-2017 22:57) Posted: Looked like retailers are convinced that Noble will continue uptrend this week. I just repost here some of my concern here. 1,    While the FY2016 results might giive some light to the company. Investors are not particularly impressed. To me, current share price might have factored in the improved prospect outlook of the stock. Share price has been significantly moved up from Q3 (~17cts) to now Q4 (~22cts) already. A 29% increase. Enough?  2. Moody does not bother to consider uany rating review on Noble. To me, it shows that Moody is not impressed by Q4 improvement. This was my final hope on Noble for the next two months.  3. Those retailers who had sold their holdings around 27cts are eagerly waiting to re-enter. I observed that there has been accumulation at around current level. Low volume in the past few days suggest that selling pressure has lightened. To me, a break-out above 22.5cts then is considered " safer" to buy.    4. Retailers especially new buyers has to be careful about anotehr bull trap. Hoping it is not though. 5. Another concern is if the share price is going to move up too high, it may even jeopardize the deal with SinoChem. They will not likely hope to see the price going up before the deal is made.    I am still observing if the break-out from this    Range-bounded will be materalized on these coming days. It is just my opinion
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Daxtheman Veteran	06-Mar-2017 06:56        Daxtheman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ISDN first can? Mid Cap
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earlybird14 Supreme	06-Mar-2017 06:54        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can you choose one? I will post the FA later. These 3 names are not in my watchlist. If they are penny stock, in fact no much FA can talk about since penny stock mostly casino machine in sgx. Only mid cap above stock has FA to talk since their market cap are supported with FA. Daxtheman      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:43) Posted: Early bird, need your analysis on medtecs and KLW , ISDN Daxtheman      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:41) Posted: Appreciate your analysis thanks
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Daxtheman Veteran	06-Mar-2017 06:43        Daxtheman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Early bird, need your analysis on medtecs and KLW , ISDN Daxtheman      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:41) Posted: Appreciate your analysis thanks earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:21) Posted: Again TA and FA. Below is pure FA. FA is overall guidance for stock long term prospect and outlooks. TA are short term price movement which decided by present market (3month to 6month) overall condition, speculation in market, dividend payment period, target price from brokers, and etc to stimulate the price movement. Under such condition, even a company without making profit still can fly kite like past 3 burning master penny stocks Blumont, lion? Forget their name. So do own due Diligence. Here we talk FA and TA together, so please split them differently. Below is my FA. No TA because not in my chart lis
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Daxtheman Veteran	06-Mar-2017 06:41        Daxtheman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Appreciate your analysis thanks earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:21) Posted: Again TA and FA. Below is pure FA. FA is overall guidance for stock long term prospect and outlooks. TA are short term price movement which decided by present market (3month to 6month) overall condition, speculation in market, dividend payment period, target price from brokers, and etc to stimulate the price movement. Under such condition, even a company without making profit still can fly kite like past 3 burning master penny stocks Blumont, lion? Forget their name. So do own due Diligence. Here we talk FA and TA together, so please split them differently. Below is my FA. No TA because not in my chart list earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 06:10) Posted: I personally don't like dormitory ideal, this is another type of unhealthy trust with shorter term of operation from gov lease less than 30 years, because at that time all shipping trust like RMT FST all are dying fish with their high depreciation cost and short term recovery of investment. You may say this isn't a trust but I can tell you the operation is same as a trust, put in huge investment, collect rental fee and pay back the loan and dividend to shareholders, after 30 years, no more. So when all of them start operation and listing, I know they will be 2nd shipping trust. Price swing up and down is common, so I think centurion price hit low and bounce up in last few weeks, especially dividend will be given soon. But I am quite sure that this stock will move lower and lower peak after peak, so choose a peak price with your TA skill and take profit and leave. I don't dare to give a price since everyone shall bear own liability on every buy and sell. I just try to give my Financial and out look analysis here. back to last Q balance sheet. First to see trust (although not a trust but about same), is cash flow. This quarter cash flow burn 30mio to 80 mio, don't explain to me, due to repayment, this is they have to pay, negative is negative. The whole year burnt 52 mio from 134 to 80 mio. Dividend payment 14 mio. Overall worse than a trust, at least trust won't burn cash so fast. Look at debt and property assets. Property Assets 927 mio, borrowing 620mio. Sgx stock always don't dare to depreciate their assets accurately and timely and worry to put too much worry to market confidence, so we look at debt and her ratio to property asset. Frankly speaking not healthy at all. 620 divided 30, 20 mio, so mean minimum 20 mio has to be reduced every year. But you see the growth of property assets and debt growth, debt growth faster, again unhealthy. So overall above explain why this stock fall from 80 plus till 30, of course part of reason is due to worrying poor economic affect the business in past 2 year. Recently bounce up is due to potential dividend given and bull mode in market. But we have to worry on their cash burning rate. 52mio a year vs 80 mio on hand, if business not improve, next year left 30 mio, 1 more year? Bye bye. So their business has to improve drastically to cover 52 mio cash burning, so profit at least has to double up to 60 mio above since the company has moved into loan repayment period after construction, they have to improve their operation and find cash
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