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ss2017. Supreme	25-Feb-2024 19:37        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Do not forget that you survived on Chinese products. China is the biggest supplier. So you must be grateful to China. So where is your Morality then? Understand one who does not possess any understanding on Chinese history. 饮 水 思 源 。 BinderyT      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 19:15) Posted: My point was about morality - don' t bite the hand that feeds you.   It' s not a question about China' s trajectory in the geopolitical arena.   You are a specimen of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which is why I called you delusional.   ss2017.      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 18:55) Posted: The one who is delusional is still in the box, still cannot see out of the box. That is the difference between different planes. Pls grow up
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BinderyT Elite	25-Feb-2024 19:15        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My point was about morality - don' t bite the hand that feeds you.   It' s not a question about China' s trajectory in the geopolitical arena.   You are a specimen of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which is why I called you delusional.   ss2017.      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 18:55) Posted: The one who is delusional is still in the box, still cannot see out of the box. That is the difference between different planes. Pls grow up. BinderyT      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 18:25) Posted: Oh gosh ... the way you keep praising yourself.   You are clearly delusional and need help.
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ss2017. Supreme	25-Feb-2024 18:55        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The one who is delusional is still in the box, still cannot see out of the box. That is the difference between different planes. Pls grow up. BinderyT      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 18:25) Posted: Oh gosh ... the way you keep praising yourself.   You are clearly delusional and need help.
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BinderyT Elite	25-Feb-2024 18:25        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oh gosh ... the way you keep praising yourself.   You are clearly delusional and need help.
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ss2017. Supreme	25-Feb-2024 18:18        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Everyone, even the world knows usa is becoming less dominant as a world leader and China is catching up fast which the west feared most especially if one knew historically what had the west done to the east. That is why usa now is trying to bring china down. One must have the forward direction and foresight to do great things. Only the mediocre do not look beyond their eyesight and could not have their mindset changed. From now no point of discussion anymore as we are not in the same plane. BinderyT      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 13:34) Posted: U r the bias one who said China must win the trade war else we will suffer.   Both China and US are important to us.   But unlike u, I wouldn' t bite the hand that feed me.   And try to kiss the ass of the country that has never been kind to us and actively sabotaging us. ss2017.      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 06:48) Posted: China may take us not important but Sg has to take China seriously. China is our biggest supplier she may not be our biggest investor but don?t forget that Sg has invested into China heavily too. We can have the best customers but we also cannot survive on the inferior suppliers. Similar to usa cannot cut off China as a major supplier. The economics of these countries are all intertwining. That?s why usa is at wits wanted to stay ahead on this trade war even resort to sanctions tactics. If you think China is not important to us, can you afford to cut off China directly by not using their supplies? Be rational and not bias when comes to analysis
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BinderyT Elite	25-Feb-2024 13:34        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	U r the bias one who said China must win the trade war else we will suffer.   Both China and US are important to us.   But unlike u, I wouldn' t bite the hand that feed me.   And try to kiss the ass of the country that has never been kind to us and actively sabotaging us. ss2017.      ( Date: 25-Feb-2024 06:48) Posted: China may take us not important but Sg has to take China seriously. China is our biggest supplier she may not be our biggest investor but don?t forget that Sg has invested into China heavily too. We can have the best customers but we also cannot survive on the inferior suppliers. Similar to usa cannot cut off China as a major supplier. The economics of these countries are all intertwining. That?s why usa is at wits wanted to stay ahead on this trade war even resort to sanctions tactics. If you think China is not important to us, can you afford to cut off China directly by not using their supplies? Be rational and not bias when comes to analysis. BinderyT      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 20:36) Posted: Our largest investor is America, not China.   The biggest foreign employers are American companies.   We may be Chinese but China has never seen SG as being important.   In fact, we have been deliberately excluded from their BRI and China is attempting to cut us off by sponsoring rails and ports in MY
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ss2017. Supreme	25-Feb-2024 06:48        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	China may take us not important but Sg has to take China seriously. China is our biggest supplier she may not be our biggest investor but don?t forget that Sg has invested into China heavily too. We can have the best customers but we also cannot survive on the inferior suppliers. Similar to usa cannot cut off China as a major supplier. The economics of these countries are all intertwining. That?s why usa is at wits wanted to stay ahead on this trade war even resort to sanctions tactics. If you think China is not important to us, can you afford to cut off China directly by not using their supplies? Be rational and not bias when comes to analysis. BinderyT      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 20:36) Posted: Our largest investor is America, not China.   The biggest foreign employers are American companies.   We may be Chinese but China has never seen SG as being important.   In fact, we have been deliberately excluded from their BRI and China is attempting to cut us off by sponsoring rails and ports in MY. ss2017.      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 08:51) Posted: Short sellers are aggressive and overly done in the SGX environment. Look, Genting got hammered, there was no query. YZJFH down from 69c to 28.5c no query either. YZJFH needs to save itself by maintaining at least a 5% dividend. High dividends can attract traditional high yield investors from t bill and bond holders, even if it can bring in CPF SA convert next year when they reach age 55. USA created USA- China trade war, China must win. If the Chinese lose, it will backtrack 20 years, we Asia will setback 50 years. Foreign funds led by the USA will become more aggressive, hit you left and right, squeeze you bone dried. Then every ten or fifteen years they will create mkt crash, buy up your properties and companies cheap.
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pasttime Supreme	24-Feb-2024 22:48        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yes usa investors are singapore largest group of investors. but these are not the same as the shortist cash harvestors. they are junk that distrub the world market. even uk market are cash harvested by them. the rule on shorts need to change. too much focus on big buyer of stock but too soft on theshorts.   shorts should be limited to a percentage of daily volume . make false sell q a crime. a need to publish who has loan out stock after a certain number like 1 m. so that all can see who is playing un fair.more volume by shorts looks attractive but in the long term they killed market they shorted in.
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vicloo Supreme	24-Feb-2024 22:25        vicloo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agreed, thats why many Many chinese companies trying to escape China-US trade war come to Sg example Tiktok and Shopee, as Singapore is strong US ally. The situations ss2017, is application more to Msia and other under developed southeast asian countries not SG 👍 BinderyT      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 20:36) Posted: Our largest investor is America, not China.   The biggest foreign employers are American companies.   We may be Chinese but China has never seen SG as being important.   In fact, we have been deliberately excluded from their BRI and China is attempting to cut us off by sponsoring rails and ports in MY. ss2017.      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 08:51) Posted: Short sellers are aggressive and overly done in the SGX environment. Look, Genting got hammered, there was no query. YZJFH down from 69c to 28.5c no query either. YZJFH needs to save itself by maintaining at least a 5% dividend. High dividends can attract traditional high yield investors from t bill and bond holders, even if it can bring in CPF SA convert next year when they reach age 55. USA created USA- China trade war, China must win. If the Chinese lose, it will backtrack 20 years, we Asia will setback 50 years. Foreign funds led by the USA will become more aggressive, hit you left and right, squeeze you bone dried. Then every ten or fifteen years they will create mkt crash, buy up your properties and companies cheap.
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BinderyT Elite	24-Feb-2024 20:36        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Our largest investor is America, not China.   The biggest foreign employers are American companies.   We may be Chinese but China has never seen SG as being important.   In fact, we have been deliberately excluded from their BRI and China is attempting to cut us off by sponsoring rails and ports in MY. ss2017.      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 08:51) Posted: Short sellers are aggressive and overly done in the SGX environment. Look, Genting got hammered, there was no query. YZJFH down from 69c to 28.5c no query either. YZJFH needs to save itself by maintaining at least a 5% dividend. High dividends can attract traditional high yield investors from t bill and bond holders, even if it can bring in CPF SA convert next year when they reach age 55. USA created USA- China trade war, China must win. If the Chinese lose, it will backtrack 20 years, we Asia will setback 50 years. Foreign funds led by the USA will become more aggressive, hit you left and right, squeeze you bone dried. Then every ten or fifteen years they will create mkt crash, buy up your properties and companies cheap.
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sgng123 Supreme	24-Feb-2024 16:41        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just put capital tax on stock borrowing then u see lot of panic short covering. SG like to put fine hehe the 2x property tax on foreign property purchase good example, SG property market cool down after that. China maybe should learn from SG, instead of banning just put heavy capital tax on shorting would kill off lot of hedging activities.
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BinderyT Elite	24-Feb-2024 16:38        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Agree.   But a lot of people here blame everything else (" shortist" , China vs US tension, etc).   US 100 are the most shorted stocks in the world but it didn' t stop them from appreciating in value.   It seems that FH being inherently weak is taboo.   tch77_pt75      ( Date: 24-Feb-2024 15:32) Posted: Stock price is determined by: 1) Future earnings and/or 2) Control by Big Fund Players. YZJFH share price is a reflection of the above-mentioned. Just my personal views.
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tch77_pt75 Veteran	24-Feb-2024 15:32        tch77_pt75 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Stock price is determined by: 1) Future earnings and/or 2) Control by Big Fund Players. YZJFH share price is a reflection of the above-mentioned. Just my personal views.
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pasttime Supreme	24-Feb-2024 09:35        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	to defend against short sellers is not an easy task. look at example around.  hk land do bb and cancel also cannot defend. just keep sold down. high dividend will only push shares price up till before xd. after xd maybe pull up a bit then short down start. facts. share supply is limited by the number of issue shares. shares available for loan only limited by those willing to loan out. money supply is unlimited. so logically speaking long versus shorts. shorts should loose even if share is of no value. but then the long must not be a major share holders or it will result in a general offer. best if many parties, willingly buy up like the gamestop events. 1 or a few big leaders. to collect then buy up. small investors to follow. do this over a few counters one by one so that these shortist cash harvestors dare not come to take easy cash from sgx and artificially hold down prices by placing big sell q. sgx rule need to adjust to a more fair playing ground to stop these shorts from manupulating the price by placing a big sell q to stop price natural up. also scoop and dump is it illegal in sgx. it looks being used quite often but do not see any actions.
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ss2017. Supreme	24-Feb-2024 08:51        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Short sellers are aggressive and overly done in the SGX environment. Look, Genting got hammered, there was no query. YZJFH down from 69c to 28.5c no query either. YZJFH needs to save itself by maintaining at least a 5% dividend. High dividends can attract traditional high yield investors from t bill and bond holders, even if it can bring in CPF SA convert next year when they reach age 55. USA created USA- China trade war, China must win. If the Chinese lose, it will backtrack 20 years, we Asia will setback 50 years. Foreign funds led by the USA will become more aggressive, hit you left and right, squeeze you bone dried. Then every ten or fifteen years they will create mkt crash, buy up your properties and companies cheap.
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sgng123 Supreme	23-Feb-2024 18:02        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Follow china way to bam shorting in first 30 and last 30mins trading hour lol. Or outright ban stock borrowing also can lol. pasttime      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 17:20) Posted: yes sgx listed stock is goner. sgx allow shorting by and hold price down with their money power will kill the market eventually.  not against shorting but there should be transparency. who shorted where they borrow from. should be an information available.  hopefully sgx or government can form a fund to once in blue moon attack those shorted by foreigner shortist to get cash out of sgx. leaving them to harvest cash uncontrolled will means death of sgx listed stock eventually. we can already see volume going down as people say why invest sgx cannot make money one.    the evil cash harvestor must be punished
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112233 Master	23-Feb-2024 17:31        112233 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	those high pay individuals in SGX do not care lah. they still earn their high salaries whether or not the listed co are below value or small retailers got burnt. that is why i wonder how can sg be a financial hub when its x-change is so crappy.  pasttime      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 17:20) Posted: yes sgx listed stock is goner. sgx allow shorting by and hold price down with their money power will kill the market eventually.  not against shorting but there should be transparency. who shorted where they borrow from. should be an information available.  hopefully sgx or government can form a fund to once in blue moon attack those shorted by foreigner shortist to get cash out of sgx. leaving them to harvest cash uncontrolled will means death of sgx listed stock eventually. we can already see volume going down as people say why invest sgx cannot make money one.    the evil cash harvestor must be punished
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pasttime Supreme	23-Feb-2024 17:20        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yes sgx listed stock is goner. sgx allow shorting by and hold price down with their money power will kill the market eventually.  not against shorting but there should be transparency. who shorted where they borrow from. should be an information available.  hopefully sgx or government can form a fund to once in blue moon attack those shorted by foreigner shortist to get cash out of sgx. leaving them to harvest cash uncontrolled will means death of sgx listed stock eventually. we can already see volume going down as people say why invest sgx cannot make money one.    the evil cash harvestor must be punished
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HVRRVH Elite	23-Feb-2024 16:19        HVRRVH About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It?s so easy to invest in US with so many brokerages facilitating the trades. I guess SGX is dying as a whole with overall low valuation for most listed stocks. BinderyT      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 15:55) Posted: super red and boring across SG.   after the mind blowing bull last night in US market, I was expecting a big green day for SG.   ..... disappointed HVRRVH      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 14:47) Posted: Boring, 32.5 bid queue so long and thick and I thought got a lot of sellers, some even mentioned how much they wanted to sell but can' t finish the 32.5 bid queue? Why? Want to hold on for dividend then sell down to 30 cents? Or hope results is good and price shoot up to 35 and above? If I have YZJS and YZJF and if 3/4 of my YZJF holding is free from the spin off and I don' t like its business model, I would quietly sell and be thankful. Especailly since my YZJS' s price has gone from 70 cents range around the time of spin off till $1.68 now. I digress. Back to YZJF, likely that the up coming results would not be too great but it would not suffer any losses. The company would still be profitable and they know they can' t give anything less than 2.8 cents for the dividend. All type of negative forces and adversories are wating to drive the share price down to 25 cents if dividend is less than 7 to 8% of current share price. What I am looking out for will be the forward guidance and projections, I hope the company can be very detail and comprehensive on this front.
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BinderyT Elite	23-Feb-2024 15:55        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	super red and boring across SG.   after the mind blowing bull last night in US market, I was expecting a big green day for SG.   ..... disappointed HVRRVH      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 14:47) Posted: Boring, 32.5 bid queue so long and thick and I thought got a lot of sellers, some even mentioned how much they wanted to sell but can' t finish the 32.5 bid queue? Why? Want to hold on for dividend then sell down to 30 cents? Or hope results is good and price shoot up to 35 and above? If I have YZJS and YZJF and if 3/4 of my YZJF holding is free from the spin off and I don' t like its business model, I would quietly sell and be thankful. Especailly since my YZJS' s price has gone from 70 cents range around the time of spin off till $1.68 now. I digress. Back to YZJF, likely that the up coming results would not be too great but it would not suffer any losses. The company would still be profitable and they know they can' t give anything less than 2.8 cents for the dividend. All type of negative forces and adversories are wating to drive the share price down to 25 cents if dividend is less than 7 to 8% of current share price. What I am looking out for will be the forward guidance and projections, I hope the company can be very detail and comprehensive on this front.
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