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2020 - POTENTIAL TO EXPORT MORE ORH KIM THIS YEAR
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Qanghoo
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21-Sep-2016 16:22
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I believe they will then downgrade the global gaming sector as a whole?  Cos if VIP participation being on the wane is a global trend, it' d not only impact GS, but others such as Las V S too.  Good one .... just trying to talk down GS as far as I' m concerned cos I believe GS as a business is responding (as all businesses respond to negative conditions) appropriately n re-weighing its bets on the  VIP sector n diverting resources to growth areas. 
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21-Sep-2016 15:33
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Can Genting Singapore survive shrinking global VIP revenue?     
By: 
Jude Chan
![]()   SINGAPORE (Sept 20): Morgan Stanley Research says its 2017 growth estimate of 4% y-o-y for global VIP gambling revenue is at risk, amid a &ldquo shrinking VIP world&rdquo despite better profitability outside Macau. The risks are elevated by slowing macro-economic growth in China &ndash the major source of VIP demand, Morgan Stanley says in a report on Sept 12. Global VIP revenue fell sequentially by 3% in 2Q16, after being flat for the last two quarters, it said. However, the research house points out that the decline narrowed on a y-o-y basis. Global VIP revenue fell 6% y-o-y in 2Q16, compared to a decline of 19% y-o-y in the previous quarter. This was mainly due to Macau VIP revenue, which fell 21% y-o-y in 2Q16. And there is no recovery in sight, according to Morgan Stanley. &ldquo No new VIP tables have been allocated to newer casinos since 2015 and smoking ban could be implemented in future,&rdquo it says. Excluding Macau, global VIP revenue increased 27% y-o-y in 2Q16, reversing out of two years of negative growth. This was driven by new casinos in Saipan and Vladivostok, as well as junkets moving to low tax jurisdiction like the Philippines. Morgan Stanley notes that casinos outside Macau generate higher EBITDA than the losses incurred by Macau. &ldquo Due to tax differentials, outside Macau, casinos tend to make higher VIP EBITDA margins. This is positive for the gaming industry, as a higher percentage of VIP customers' revenue goes to listed companies' profits,&rdquo the research house says. Morgan Stanley&rsquo s global gaming team says its preferred stock picks for the sector are Star Entertainment in Australia, Bloomberry in the Philippines, and Paradise City in Korea. &ldquo We favour companies with strong junket/VIP offering destinations and new facilities driving market share higher,&rdquo the research team says. Genting Singapore, however, received an &ldquo underweight&rdquo rating. &ldquo We expect negative earnings revisions to continue, due to poor management of VIP business that resulted in high bad debts,&rdquo Morgan Stanley says, adding that Genting Singapore is &ldquo losing to MBS&rdquo . &ldquo Although the market may view overseas expansion positively in Japan and Jeju, we are bearish on legalization of casinos in Japan and the ability to generate decent ROIC, and competition from Paradise City,&rdquo it adds. Shares of Genting Singapore closed 0.7% lower at 74 cents. |
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22-Aug-2016 21:40
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ecekca
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22-Aug-2016 20:34
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Genting on uptrend Target 0.82 |
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ecekca
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17-Aug-2016 21:02
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close off my short.. genting moving too slow |
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investshare
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17-Aug-2016 17:40
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Now people prefer bank stock, more exciting to bet which loan will default )
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francisd
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17-Aug-2016 09:22
Yells: "BUY LOW SELL HIGH" |
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Any news on this counter.. Cheers   |
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ecekca
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09-Aug-2016 21:27
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no right or wrong in investing just gambling and bet that the crowd follows you fundamental doesn' t hold now i doubt any biz can make $$ except advertising where google making big $$$.
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Goldfinger
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06-Aug-2016 13:51
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Yah never say never - but anybody Guess if it will ever happen. Hah.
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ehclim
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06-Aug-2016 13:46
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I think it is possible if the casino business is not doing well or otherwise there will many Korean employees are at stake of retrenchment. They may follow Singapore model to impose levy or entry fee for the Koreans.
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Goldfinger
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06-Aug-2016 13:40
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Gens share of RWJ is less than $1bn investment. The perps were to build a war chest for Japan I believe.
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Goldfinger
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06-Aug-2016 13:38
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Well I had 300 lots bought between 40-60cts during GFC etc and unloaded bulk above $2. Am looking to buy cheap again but I am just stating facts and my personal view.I am not a shortist and don't believe in talking down stocks to collect cheap or profit at the expense of others. If Korea liberalizes to allow locals to enter and pay an entry fee like SGP all bets are off on how the price will rocket up. But pure dreaming on this front.
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ehclim
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06-Aug-2016 13:32
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Agreed, credit from high rollers maybe dubious so it is better to make from the walk-in guests which are more sustainable but not with huge profit.
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enjoylife77
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06-Aug-2016 13:09
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The forumer here post as if the price action will be  repeated as in 2010 when RWS opened. Do you know there are already few foreigners-only casino in Jeju that are already in business? This Gent Sp JV with Landings Devt will only be licenced as a foreigners-only casino to join in the rest of the struggling gaming parlour. No big deal.    Is there any reason for Gent Sg to redeem the Perps 5.125%  when it is funding the Jeju development  at the expense of ordinary-shareholder ?  When Gent first announced this damaging Perps, I quickly unloaded my holdings close to $2 and never look back.     |
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Goldfinger
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06-Aug-2016 12:50
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These so called high roller VIP zhonguo ren best go to Macua and fleece the casinos there instead.
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Goldfinger
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06-Aug-2016 12:49
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As I have said before - every $2 that RW Jeju makes, $1 goes to GENS. Forget about Japan as a lost cause, redeem the Perps, rein in credit as high rollers are dubious on collections when they lose and pay out the cash profits to shareholders as dividends. Things will turn around and stock markets are forward looking bah.
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ecekca
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06-Aug-2016 12:44
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if no high rollers, will be the same as GENS.. lack of high rollers.. that why continue to go down in term of revenue
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Goldfinger
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06-Aug-2016 11:22
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Jeju will do well - Japan may be an elusive dream hence they should redeem the perps to avoid high coupons and avoid costly mistakes like buying UK casinos and German shipyards like GENHK.
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ehclim
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06-Aug-2016 09:18
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Casino in Jeju will attract many Chinese tourists although they may not be many high rollers. The filght from Shanghai to Jeju is about 30 minute only likes flying from Singapore to KL.
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ecekca
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06-Aug-2016 08:39
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Jeju or Japan, where do they get the big gamblers ? ..China again? If that the case, don' t expect much too
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