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uiop1223 Supreme	17-Dec-2023 16:21        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	3-4% housing loan is cheap compared to other ctries TA_Expert      ( Date: 16-Dec-2023 21:25) Posted: All the banks are sucking money from consumers in Singapore by imposing high interest rates for housing loan een though the Fed has stopped the rate hike twice. To these banks, they do not care less about the Fed. They will continue to suck the consumers dry. They will only adjust the interest rates after the Fed actually cut interest rates.
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RL16EGG Veteran	17-Dec-2023 11:49        RL16EGG About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	For the banks valuations are excellent. I have added ocbc at 12.58. now waiting at 12.21 and 12.01 if these prices happen. I feel the big boys have not finished re-adjusting their porfolio. A bit more to go before they scoop the bank shares up. Buy and keep or sell.  Good luck. Goldfinger      ( Date: 16-Dec-2023 14:10) Posted: I just bought more OCBC yesterday.  The dividend yield and possibility of special dividend seems higher for that. ronin68      ( Date: 16-Dec-2023 12:00) Posted: The price is close to the bottom of the big symmetrical triangle so if it can hold at this level and move up, it will be good. But I don' t see any strong price reversal to the upside till China get their economy back on track. I do expect China equities to bottom at current level. in the last 10 years I have invested in DBS, whenever price seems like a hopeless spiral down , it always bounce up, so let' s see this time.
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investshare Supreme	17-Dec-2023 04:10        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do not understand your point. If Fed has not cut rate, you expect banks to cut rate first? TA_Expert      ( Date: 16-Dec-2023 21:25) Posted: All the banks are sucking money from consumers in Singapore by imposing high interest rates for housing loan een though the Fed has stopped the rate hike twice. To these banks, they do not care less about the Fed. They will continue to suck the consumers dry. They will only adjust the interest rates after the Fed actually cut interest rates.
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TA_Expert Supreme	16-Dec-2023 21:25        TA_Expert About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "The World has changed"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All the banks are sucking money from consumers in Singapore by imposing high interest rates for housing loan een though the Fed has stopped the rate hike twice. To these banks, they do not care less about the Fed. They will continue to suck the consumers dry. They will only adjust the interest rates after the Fed actually cut interest rates.
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Alignment Elite	16-Dec-2023 16:17        Alignment About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Given that DBS has more of a history of paying special dividends, I think there is a higher chance that this will also be the case in the FY results this time round. Not saying OCBC is a bad call though.
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Goldfinger Supreme	16-Dec-2023 14:10        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I just bought more OCBC yesterday.  The dividend yield and possibility of special dividend seems higher for that. ronin68      ( Date: 16-Dec-2023 12:00) Posted: The price is close to the bottom of the big symmetrical triangle so if it can hold at this level and move up, it will be good. But I don' t see any strong price reversal to the upside till China get their economy back on track. I do expect China equities to bottom at current level. in the last 10 years I have invested in DBS, whenever price seems like a hopeless spiral down , it always bounce up, so let' s see this time.
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slingshotpro Senior	16-Dec-2023 12:39        slingshotpro About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fed's Williams sparked chaos early on by directly contradicting Chair Powell's uber-dovishness by saying that "we aren't really talking about rate cuts right now." "I just think it's just premature to be even thinking about (rate cuts)," he added when asked about cuts in March, warning that inflation is not dead... "One thing we've learned even over the past year is that the data can move and in surprising ways, we need to be ready to move to tighten the policy further, if the progress of inflation were to stall or reverse." Later in the day, Fed's Bostic also came out considerably less dovish, suggesting just two rate-cuts in 2024, and likely after Q3. ?I?m not really feeling that this is an imminent thing,? Bostic was quoted by Reuters as saying. Policymakers still need ?several months? to see enough data and gain confidence that inflation will continue to fall, Bostic said, according to Reuters. Fed's Goolsbee was dovish, but also less so than the market and the dots, saying that he expects rates to be lower next year than they are right now, but not significantly, warning that "as inflation comes down, we've got to think about how restrictive do we want to be and are there dangers on the employment side of the mandate." "We should be prepared to raise rates if we stop getting good news and it looks like we're not on path to get down to" the Fed's target, Goolsbee said. "But also if we see inflation going down more than we expected, we should be prepared to recognize whether that level of restrictiveness that we're at now, which is clearly restrictive, whether that's appropriate and whether we should loosen" policy. The result of all that - March rate-cut expectations tumbled from 100% to around 66%...
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ronin68 Member	16-Dec-2023 12:00        ronin68 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The price is close to the bottom of the big symmetrical triangle so if it can hold at this level and move up, it will be good. But I don' t see any strong price reversal to the upside till China get their economy back on track. I do expect China equities to bottom at current level. in the last 10 years I have invested in DBS, whenever price seems like a hopeless spiral down , it always bounce up, so let' s see this time.
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tongphlp Supreme	15-Dec-2023 16:35        tongphlp About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	coming huattuatua      ( Date: 15-Dec-2023 13:56) Posted: below 31 i will try some
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huattuatua Elite	15-Dec-2023 13:56        huattuatua About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	below 31 i will try some
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mav1ryan Veteran	14-Dec-2023 16:42        mav1ryan About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I actually prefer to look more into Wyckoff Cycle shared to me by Bro Wave, and looking into the pattern similarity to decide what to do.
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ronin68 Member	14-Dec-2023 16:37        ronin68 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I used to benchmark against JP Morgan on price movement and there is a deviation which I attribute to the China challenges. This is critical now for China to get their acts together from their frequent policy changes and persecution of military officials.  I do expect this to stabilise by Q1 2024 and then only can we see a big move up for DBS due to exposure in HK and China. Meanwhile , I am accumulating and following the Benner cycle of 2026 top to coincide with some geopolitical event which may transpire. But holding period is 2 years at least and not for scaling in and out.
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mav1ryan Veteran	14-Dec-2023 16:29        mav1ryan About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am buying for Dividends, so will jeep again when price goes to $31, and further jeep if goes further down at $30. If market clashes, I will clear my war chest to buy DBS ronin68      ( Date: 14-Dec-2023 14:57) Posted: Also I have been buying and selling DBS for the last 10 years - major selling happen during covid and Ukraine war. I would suggest those with 2 to 3 years holding power, to accumulate now.   2026 is the year to look out for earth shaking events to sell.
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pkli899 Supreme	14-Dec-2023 15:05        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	WOW......eager to see what' s going to happen. ronin68      ( Date: 14-Dec-2023 14:57) Posted: Also I have been buying and selling DBS for the last 10 years - major selling happen during covid and Ukraine war. I would suggest those with 2 to 3 years holding power, to accumulate now.   2026 is the year to look out for earth shaking events to sell.
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ronin68 Member	14-Dec-2023 14:57        ronin68 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Also I have been buying and selling DBS for the last 10 years - major selling happen during covid and Ukraine war. I would suggest those with 2 to 3 years holding power, to accumulate now.   2026 is the year to look out for earth shaking events to sell.
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royeko Member	14-Dec-2023 14:50        royeko About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes. I also agree DBS' s current plight has something to do with the still stubborn negativity in Great China. ronin68      ( Date: 14-Dec-2023 14:37) Posted: Something magical is going to happen. Bottom is around 31 or so and it is all the way up from here . Funds have been selling and soon buying back once China news turn positive
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ronin68 Member	14-Dec-2023 14:37        ronin68 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Something magical is going to happen. Bottom is around 31 or so and it is all the way up from here . Funds have been selling and soon buying back once China news turn positive
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royeko Member	14-Dec-2023 14:20        royeko About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Before FED started to hike its rates from near zero on 16 Mar 2022, DBS hit 37 albeit super low NIM. (Yes, I do agree that the high price was due to the effect of QE (cheap money) during covid. Now is QT....) My take is when Funds/BBs  buy in, price up. Funds dump, price down. Now the global funds are just not buying DBS, probably focusing their ammo to pump up US equities.  We all know that Funds pump and dump for quick profits. That' s one of their channels to achieve 20-30% annual returns.  In the long term, DBS is still a solid profit making machine with solid ROE. Price should be able to go higher and higher over time. Just hold and collect dividends. Long term weighing short term voting. It' s just that simple. My 2 cents....
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pkli899 Supreme	14-Dec-2023 13:22        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singing praise is mislead? Respond to your allegation is petty argument? Maybe i' m too hostile. I should be more polite. My apology. I' ll stop too.
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Estella Member	14-Dec-2023 12:12        Estella About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	I usually don' t entertain petty argumentative uncle so I' m going to say the last time, you are entitled to your own opinion but please don' t anyhow sing to mislead others, you ain' t no god. And I' m not going to continue corresponding because it is meaningless. pkli899      ( Date: 14-Dec-2023 11:47) Posted: I really cannot understand? What' s wrong with singing praise? Fundamentally, DBS is very strong. It will remain strong in the foreseeable future. Is rate cuts the end of the world for DBS? DBS does not depend on loans only to make money. Yes, NIM will be affected. But that does not mean it will not make money going forward. Why must I stop being positive about DBS? We have different point of view, that' s all. Unless doomsday comes, I still believe in DBS. My stand. You need not agree.
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