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lionking Member	03-Aug-2016 08:56        lionking About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think not just oil and gas companies who had borrowed tons of money from banks, just look at other areas
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seanpent Supreme	03-Aug-2016 08:52        seanpent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yes bro ..... think now everything is about timing and sentiments ..... so hard to beat the negativities now ..... i also cutting loss 1st ..... haiz ..... :( FATABA      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 17:19) Posted: We have to be very careful about numbers. ( I am not talking that banks are NOT affected....everyone is when economic condition is bad)  ​ However, like DBS case...this 700M is total exposure to Swiber...there are vessel , and other collaterate given before the loan is granted. etc etc. Nett, DBS think is 150M more ( they did have previous provision etc ) ....Whatever, this amount will affect them BUT NOT WHAT OTHERS WISHES TO PAINT ...DBS WILL CLOSE ? ( no way...it will just maybe reduce its qtr profit by 10% ....NOTE its ONLY one qtr. Of course the doom day would say other accounts like Erza Ezion etc ....wow all are DBS customer ? I agree that DBS would be affect but NOT as much as those doom day wishes  ( foreign firm wishes to down grade) Dont forget our banks are STILL SO MUCH BETTER THEN THEIRS AT HOME....lol   seanpent      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:09) Posted: and wiping even much more from the overall market :(    its unimaginable if people managing the company are not held accountable :(
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Qanghoo Supreme	03-Aug-2016 08:50        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just go rate their own ang moh bks lah.  When oil tanks further n there are more Cap 11 from shalers how much are the ang moh bks exposed to OnG.  Are they as well covered.  Pt is, some like to keep bashing a select grp of institutions probably more for sensationalising.  Our MAS will take care of things here for sure.  Look at how DBS recently squeezed Ezra to take control of the Triyard shares n we know things are not as bad as people have the  perversion n sadism  to make them out to be.  FATABA      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 23:14) Posted: Agree....Moody hit when at the worst timing.....only for their own benefit. ​ They have not rate themselves. Qanghoo      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 17:38) Posted: This moody better go jaga their american backside first.
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FATABA Supreme	02-Aug-2016 23:14        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree....Moody hit when at the worst timing.....only for their own benefit. ​ They have not rate themselves. Qanghoo      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 17:38) Posted: This moody better go jaga their american backside first.  investshare      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:10) Posted: I know OCBC not in Swiber case. What I mean is the risk in O& G sector now is very significant. Good profit can be wiped out easily. Refer below from Moody.    " The banks' exposures to the oil and gas sector remain significant, with UOB' s and OCBC' s exposure to offshore marine services companies amounting to 13-18 per cent of their CET1 capital and loan loss reserves at end-June 2016," said Moody' s.
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Qanghoo Supreme	02-Aug-2016 17:40        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Were they not the ones kena whacked by HK gov for some not towardly conduct? Qanghoo      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 17:38) Posted: This moody better go jaga their american backside first.  investshare      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:10) Posted: I know OCBC not in Swiber case. What I mean is the risk in O& G sector now is very significant. Good profit can be wiped out easily. Refer below from Moody.    " The banks' exposures to the oil and gas sector remain significant, with UOB' s and OCBC' s exposure to offshore marine services companies amounting to 13-18 per cent of their CET1 capital and loan loss reserves at end-June 2016," said Moody' s.
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Qanghoo Supreme	02-Aug-2016 17:38        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This moody better go jaga their american backside first.  investshare      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:10) Posted: I know OCBC not in Swiber case. What I mean is the risk in O& G sector now is very significant. Good profit can be wiped out easily. Refer below from Moody.    " The banks' exposures to the oil and gas sector remain significant, with UOB' s and OCBC' s exposure to offshore marine services companies amounting to 13-18 per cent of their CET1 capital and loan loss reserves at end-June 2016," said Moody' s. acetron      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:08) Posted: ocbc not involve leh...
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famouspinky Supreme	02-Aug-2016 17:21        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When the tide is down, good or bad will show. Sustainability is key. FATABA      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 17:19) Posted: We have to be very careful about numbers. ( I am not talking that banks are NOT affected....everyone is when economic condition is bad)  ​ However, like DBS case...this 700M is total exposure to Swiber...there are vessel , and other collaterate given before the loan is granted. etc etc. Nett, DBS think is 150M more ( they did have previous provision etc ) ....Whatever, this amount will affect them BUT NOT WHAT OTHERS WISHES TO PAINT ...DBS WILL CLOSE ? ( no way...it will just maybe reduce its qtr profit by 10% ....NOTE its ONLY one qtr. Of course the doom day would say other accounts like Erza Ezion etc ....wow all are DBS customer ? I agree that DBS would be affect but NOT as much as those doom day wishes  ( foreign firm wishes to down grade) Dont forget our banks are STILL SO MUCH BETTER THEN THEIRS AT HOME....lol   seanpent      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:09) Posted: and wiping even much more from the overall market :(    its unimaginable if people managing the company are not held accountable :(
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FATABA Supreme	02-Aug-2016 17:19        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We have to be very careful about numbers. ( I am not talking that banks are NOT affected....everyone is when economic condition is bad)  ​ However, like DBS case...this 700M is total exposure to Swiber...there are vessel , and other collaterate given before the loan is granted. etc etc. Nett, DBS think is 150M more ( they did have previous provision etc ) ....Whatever, this amount will affect them BUT NOT WHAT OTHERS WISHES TO PAINT ...DBS WILL CLOSE ? ( no way...it will just maybe reduce its qtr profit by 10% ....NOTE its ONLY one qtr. Of course the doom day would say other accounts like Erza Ezion etc ....wow all are DBS customer ? I agree that DBS would be affect but NOT as much as those doom day wishes  ( foreign firm wishes to down grade) Dont forget our banks are STILL SO MUCH BETTER THEN THEIRS AT HOME....lol   seanpent      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:09) Posted: and wiping even much more from the overall market :(    its unimaginable if people managing the company are not held accountable :( investshare      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:06) Posted: But one Swiber case can wipe out $700m :(
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seanpent Supreme	02-Aug-2016 16:56        seanpent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	meantime market superover ..... guess will see a strong rebound ..... seanpent      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:09) Posted: and wiping even much more from the overall market :(    its unimaginable if people managing the company are not held accountable :( investshare      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:06) Posted: But one Swiber case can wipe out $700m :(
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acetron Member	02-Aug-2016 16:11        acetron About Contact  Quote this Post!
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investshare Supreme	02-Aug-2016 16:10        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I know OCBC not in Swiber case. What I mean is the risk in O& G sector now is very significant. Good profit can be wiped out easily. Refer below from Moody.    " The banks' exposures to the oil and gas sector remain significant, with UOB' s and OCBC' s exposure to offshore marine services companies amounting to 13-18 per cent of their CET1 capital and loan loss reserves at end-June 2016," said Moody' s. acetron      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:08) Posted: ocbc not involve leh...
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seanpent Supreme	02-Aug-2016 16:09        seanpent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	and wiping even much more from the overall market :(    its unimaginable if people managing the company are not held accountable :( investshare      ( Date: 02-Aug-2016 16:06) Posted: But one Swiber case can wipe out $700m :( FATABA      ( Date: 01-Aug-2016 09:29) Posted: So many are hoping it will drop further last week ...so they can buy cheap . ​ OCBC is still over $800M in profit ...even with GD pulling it down and the addition of one time gain last year. Dividend is 36c a year. OVER 4.1% highest among the 4 banks.  Vested Happy investing. :))
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acetron Member	02-Aug-2016 16:08        acetron About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ocbc not involve leh...
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investshare Supreme	02-Aug-2016 16:06        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But one Swiber case can wipe out $700m :( FATABA      ( Date: 01-Aug-2016 09:29) Posted: So many are hoping it will drop further last week ...so they can buy cheap . ​ OCBC is still over $800M in profit ...even with GD pulling it down and the addition of one time gain last year. Dividend is 36c a year. OVER 4.1% highest among the 4 banks.  Vested Happy investing. :))
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lionking Member	02-Aug-2016 15:51        lionking About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah ho say liao ! 8.58 !
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lionking Member	02-Aug-2016 11:32        lionking About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	waiting to buy at 8.30 or lower, i want to invest at at great bargain price
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FATABA Supreme	01-Aug-2016 09:29        FATABA About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	So many are hoping it will drop further last week ...so they can buy cheap . ​ OCBC is still over $800M in profit ...even with GD pulling it down and the addition of one time gain last year. Dividend is 36c a year. OVER 4.1% highest among the 4 banks.  Vested Happy investing. :))
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lionking Member	29-Jul-2016 17:25        lionking About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	good if u really looking for great bargains to hold long term seanpent      ( Date: 29-Jul-2016 16:47) Posted: oh dear ..... DBS really got smashed ...... :(
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jayarumah Master	29-Jul-2016 17:09        jayarumah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My property friend told me one....1 from philippines swipe credit card to max limit then dont pay....citibsnk hired debt collector ...debt collector dont even know where the filipino is seanpent      ( Date: 29-Jul-2016 17:01) Posted: oh that' s really not a vigilant way ..... now worried that OCBC will follow DBS with  a big slide down .... haiz ..... :( jayarumah      ( Date: 29-Jul-2016 16:53) Posted: And they have not much credit control....the banks...like citibank ...etc anyhow issue credit cards to EP holders from India and Philippines....they get about $7 K credit....use it ...x a few cards....then leave Singapore secretly .... not sure how bad these bad debts from credit cards to foreigners are...
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seanpent Supreme	29-Jul-2016 17:01        seanpent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	oh that' s really not a vigilant way ..... now worried that OCBC will follow DBS with  a big slide down .... haiz ..... :( jayarumah      ( Date: 29-Jul-2016 16:53) Posted: And they have not much credit control....the banks...like citibank ...etc anyhow issue credit cards to EP holders from India and Philippines....they get about $7 K credit....use it ...x a few cards....then leave Singapore secretly .... not sure how bad these bad debts from credit cards to foreigners are.... seanpent      ( Date: 29-Jul-2016 16:47) Posted: oh dear ..... DBS really got smashed ...... :(
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