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ONONONON
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09-Jun-2015 15:13
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likely will be stable around 0.87 today... hope those got in at their ideal price.   |
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MetalTrader3
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09-Jun-2015 14:21
Yells: "Let Your Ignorance Be Shown Tommorrow! ~ PredictorX" |
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Yawn. .
What the Big Idea? I can even sleep :) |
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earlybird14
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09-Jun-2015 14:11
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Demand is still over there based on Global GDP growth. But problem is on supply. The recovery in last year was due to the demand meeting the supply, freight rate grow, plus the low bunker oil, gave more recovery hope to this industry. However, due to the slight recovery, more giant container vessels were ordered and start delivery early of 2015 till 2017.  Situation is worst than past 4 years, why? Except Maersk and MSC, the rest are bleeding in past 4 years. Another round of oversupply will kill the small and mid players.  http://www.alphaliner.com/top100/ APL rank as no. 12 has been classified as small players in international market. Will be the first one to squeeze. 900Mio can only allow them to last for 1 years. Whoever still expect dividend after selling APL logistic must be dreaming.
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earlybird14
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09-Jun-2015 14:04
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As usual, you are always optimistic on NOL. NOL will report net loss of minimum 150Mio in coming quarter based on present freight rate. If situation is not recovered, NOL will report 450 to 600Mio net loss in 2015. If price in the 900Mio gain from selling APL logistic, NOL will be profitable of 300Mio. Once APL logistic deal is done, bounce will be expected. But after that?   
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sgng123
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09-Jun-2015 13:36
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Just take note last year when market rumour of APLL sale floated, everyone take it as a joke then bam APLL got sold off within 6 months. April market rumour is about NOL merger / sale deal, that one jack up ship form 1.00 to 1.20, now bubble deflated and everything came crashing down. In NOL special meeting, 99.98% share holder voted yes to APLL sale without much resistance. I suspect APLL sale is just a litmus test for the eventual sale of NOL and delisting. Temasek testing market for sale aproval and market valuation multiple for NOL sale. Anyway 2Q15 is likely a flat result and small loss worst case due to low bunker oil, port congestion relief and capacity cut to boost yield. NOL slowing giving up market share to improve yield, another sign of NOL sale. THis year NOL lot of drama lah, selling off profitable unit while retaining loss making one make no sense eve nto the dumbest executive unless it is a step taken to divest off the whole group then it make sense. Sell off APLL to test share holder willingness to unload group asset and cutting off market share to improve yield make NOL more attractive for future buyers to take over. IT is like doing a renovation on a prime district house inorder to sell for a better price. Currently share price below NAV $0.90 and if nothing surprised on 2Q result new NAV = $1.36- 1.40 which is like 50% discount to NAV. |
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lxxjhe
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09-Jun-2015 13:14
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SINGAPORE (June 8): The outlook for both demand and rates for container shipping remains muted this year, even as Neptune Orient Lines focuses on improving profitability in its liner business, Citigroup says in a note. Citi notes that the industry wide capacity growth of 8.6% this year will likely outpace demand growth of around 4.8%. US consumer demand has generally lagged our expectations and macro [and] export indications from Asia are less than inspiring, Citi says. It says Neptune Orient' s management is seeing " modest rate support" along the transpacific trade. However, the large vessel deliveries along the Asia-Europe trade will continue to weigh on those already weak rates, Citi says. Neptune Orient is down 1.6% at $0.935, while the Straits Times Index is down 0.3%.
Source : http://www.theedgemarkets.com/sg/article/muted-container-cargo-outlook-weigh-nol KUALA LUMPUR (June 8): CIMB Research had downgraded the regional container shipping sector from Neutral to Underweight on the back of a wasted bunker windfall. Fear is now the dominant emotion as carriers give away the benefits of lower bunker prices by way of aggressive capacity injections and rate competition, the report said. Core earnings per share (EPS) forecasts were reduced for all companies on the back of the weaker-than-expected freight rates, and target prices were also reduced. CIMB also reduced their rating on SITC International Holding Company shares from Add to Hold, and on Orient Overseas International (OOIL) shares from Add to Reduce. Neptune Orient Lines (NOL) remains a Hold, while China Shipping Container Lines (CSCL) is our top Reduce, the research house said. Source : http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/cimb-research-cuts-container-shipping-sector-underweight |
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HuathuatLeo
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09-Jun-2015 13:06
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MT predictor got predict this mayhem or not? Now I predict you no show face today. lmao hahahaha.
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sgng123
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09-Jun-2015 12:53
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All don know the yearly market trend ? Sell in May, Stay away in June, Come back at July. Shit had been happening in june these past few years and ship share price heavily dominated by big players. For 2nd Half, just watch out for end Sep to Oct period, ship might hit new low before rebounding strongly. But it take lot of gut to be out there regardess longing or shorting. Stay safe and follow the market trend, Stayaway in June.  those big  players would push ship low low so they can collect low before they are forced to push up ship on temasek order. APLL proceed of US$900mil on 2Q also did not help that meant something fishy is going on and big players accumulating stock low by forcingout the weaker holders. Just don know what is going on, anyway stay away is mine advice, don eve nbother to touch any stocks this period. |
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tianji
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09-Jun-2015 11:53
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MT - Hai Si Ren.....Now cremated at Mandai liao........ Those followers are all looking for him.........like 5star travel closed down........Later will see the news all go file in police report.....
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ONONONON
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09-Jun-2015 11:13
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Oh... cos i notice though MT very detail and very fundamental, but there is always no guideline. When up then say the troops is here to fight... but how long will be the fight and Target on the fight (all no mentioned) I just wann see his view and if same as my feel. I see this counter fall from $2+ I just wonder when can this counter recover and shine as it used to be.
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themachine
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09-Jun-2015 11:13
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Need to find out what's happening most likely either collateral damage, rights issue , or failed merger | ||||
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ONONONON
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09-Jun-2015 11:03
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good... at least make it stable a bit... rain non stop very scary...
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09-Jun-2015 10:54
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TH and I going in load big time at 86c |
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danger
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09-Jun-2015 10:52
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metaltrader up lorry again
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Demostation
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09-Jun-2015 10:49
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Remember? On 3 June, I mentioned that NOL might go below 88, now it is happening, and lower..
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HuathuatLeo
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09-Jun-2015 10:49
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MT comatose liao.. how to advise you? lmao hahahaha.
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ONONONON
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09-Jun-2015 10:47
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yeah, can advise the timely? any view when can go back to $1?
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ONONONON
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09-Jun-2015 10:33
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went as low as 0.855 OMG.... very scary...
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Greenbean
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09-Jun-2015 10:24
Yells: "Live green. Let it be GREEN." |
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0.870 liao. |
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Greenbean
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09-Jun-2015 10:17
Yells: "Live green. Let it be GREEN." |
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Hot Air.
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