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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 10:08        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	From the recent $5.06 to $4.85 in just a few days can see the shareholders showing weakness holding this counter  Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 10:04) Posted: Slowly the shareholders will realise they are holding to a counter that can' t provide the yield they wanted and while many counters out there are surging and giving dividends These people will give up in the end and sell. Only a matter of time TigerPlay      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:58) Posted: SiA is world famous, a renowed carrier, how to get cheap cheap one. i waiting till neck loong long for $4 or $3, but it very strong one, stick around $5 or 4.9plus....the lowest in recent time is still at 4.40plus when lock down announced few weeks ago...for it to hit $3 something real bad must happen to SG or the world...and if it does happen, other counters should be very jialet too ...
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 10:04        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Slowly the shareholders will realise they are holding to a counter that can' t provide the yield they wanted and while many counters out there are surging and giving dividends These people will give up in the end and sell. Only a matter of time TigerPlay      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:58) Posted: SiA is world famous, a renowed carrier, how to get cheap cheap one. i waiting till neck loong long for $4 or $3, but it very strong one, stick around $5 or 4.9plus....the lowest in recent time is still at 4.40plus when lock down announced few weeks ago...for it to hit $3 something real bad must happen to SG or the world...and if it does happen, other counters should be very jialet too .... Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:46) Posted: $4.88 now, still seems superb overvalued to me ..
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TigerPlay Master	07-Jun-2021 09:58        TigerPlay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SiA is world famous, a renowed carrier, how to get cheap cheap one. i waiting till neck loong long for $4 or $3, but it very strong one, stick around $5 or 4.9plus....the lowest in recent time is still at 4.40plus when lock down announced few weeks ago...for it to hit $3 something real bad must happen to SG or the world...and if it does happen, other counters should be very jialet too .... Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:46) Posted: $4.88 now, still seems superb overvalued to me ... Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:32) Posted: SIA @ $4.9 now seems overvalue ...
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SembMarineLong Veteran	07-Jun-2021 09:56        SembMarineLong About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Long to enjoy Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:39) Posted: When i analysis SIA share price. After year 2011, it' s share price gets bad to worse. Now with double mcb.... no eyes see
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 09:46        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	$4.88 now, still seems superb overvalued to me ... Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:32) Posted: SIA @ $4.9 now seems overvalue ...
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 09:42        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SIA change CEO in 2011 right? Current CEO still the same since 2011 right? Hmm... Sparrow999      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 09:39) Posted: When i analysis SIA share price. After year 2011, it' s share price gets bad to worse. Now with double mcb.... no eyes see
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 09:39        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When i analysis SIA share price. After year 2011, it' s share price gets bad to worse. Now with double mcb.... no eyes see
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Sparrow999 Senior	07-Jun-2021 09:32        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SIA @ $4.9 now seems overvalue ...
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SembMarineLong Veteran	07-Jun-2021 08:51        SembMarineLong About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Long to enjoy
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TigerPlay Master	07-Jun-2021 08:45        TigerPlay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SiA is different from nOL. is a national carrier. TA_Expert      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 02:01) Posted: SIA will never be sold to any party other than Temasek or the govt due to national issue. famouspinky      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 00:27) Posted: Will be same fate as NO
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investor999 Elite	07-Jun-2021 08:28        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	MCB may turn out to be a very good investment indeed. It was very limited during the first Tranche due to the low take up rate. While we still have a few days more to go and the MCB rights are dirt cheap, punters can easily buy just to subscribe to some MCB. $1 stock with yearly interest added and as Proxy to mother share is very rare indeed. I suggest some of us, including myself with some MCB rights still at hand, to subscribe to the MCB
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TA_Expert Supreme	07-Jun-2021 02:01        TA_Expert About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "The World has changed"
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	SIA will never be sold to any party other than Temasek or the govt due to national issue. famouspinky      ( Date: 07-Jun-2021 00:27) Posted: Will be same fate as NOL incirent      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 23:46) Posted: @peterwong321 I m a typical example. I sold all my 52.000 SIA @$6.09 and got burned by 1/3 ($9.50-$6.09). It is very sad. I will never touch SIA again even if it drops below $3.
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famouspinky Supreme	07-Jun-2021 00:27        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will be same fate as NOL incirent      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 23:46) Posted: @peterwong321 I m a typical example. I sold all my 52.000 SIA @$6.09 and got burned by 1/3 ($9.50-$6.09). It is very sad. I will never touch SIA again even if it drops below $3.
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incirent Senior	06-Jun-2021 23:46        incirent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	@peterwong321 I m a typical example. I sold all my 52.000 SIA @$6.09 and got burned by 1/3 ($9.50-$6.09). It is very sad. I will never touch SIA again even if it drops below $3.
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RL16EGG Veteran	06-Jun-2021 21:55        RL16EGG About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	investor999 appreciate your input. certainly value adding. investor999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 18:19) Posted: Dear Sparrow999: I share your concern of the dilution. Let' s assume there is 100,000 shares in total. 56,000 belongs to Temasek and to 44,000 others The MCB will dilute these shares by adding 354875 shares to the 100000 shares ( 100,000 / 100 X 209 X 1.69797 = 354875 ) The total number of shares ( old + new) = 454875 shares Let' s say the Market predict 4% take up rate by the " others" . The rest 96% goes to Temasek. 4% of 354875 new shares is 14195 shares 96% is  340680 shares Temasek will now have 56,000 + 340680 = 396680 shares Others will have 44,000 + 14195 = 58195 shares At the time of MCB issue there are total 100,000 / 100 X 209 = 209000 MCB' s If Temasek takes up 96%, it has to pay $200,640 Others who takes up 4% pays $8360 Let' s say the orignal shares were worth $5. The cost price for Temasek is now ( 56,000 X $5 +$200,640) / 396680 = $1.21 per share The cost price for " others" is now ( 44,000 X $5 + $8360 / 58195 = $3.92 per share These additional shares are not tradable until 2030.  Temasek is the owner and has reduced its cost. It can buy back shares any price it wants. So for the others with cost price $3.92 in 2030, not so bad right?   Sparrow999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 15:41) Posted: The problem about mcb is not about the unit share price after it matured. Its the additional billions of news shares adding into the total volume of SIA shares is deadly.  Firstly, it will definitely dilute the mother share severely, i estimated it will dilute the mother share price at least by half  secondly, when there' s so much shares in the market how to push up its share price? It' s extremely difficult to push its price in future
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peterwong321 Veteran	06-Jun-2021 21:54        peterwong321 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Last year, saw many friends selling off SIA  @$6 plus , after dump all never back back even at $3 dollars plus..........................
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investor999 Elite	06-Jun-2021 18:19        investor999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dear Sparrow999: I share your concern of the dilution. Let' s assume there is 100,000 shares in total. 56,000 belongs to Temasek and to 44,000 others The MCB will dilute these shares by adding 354875 shares to the 100000 shares ( 100,000 / 100 X 209 X 1.69797 = 354875 ) The total number of shares ( old + new) = 454875 shares Let' s say the Market predict 4% take up rate by the " others" . The rest 96% goes to Temasek. 4% of 354875 new shares is 14195 shares 96% is  340680 shares Temasek will now have 56,000 + 340680 = 396680 shares Others will have 44,000 + 14195 = 58195 shares At the time of MCB issue there are total 100,000 / 100 X 209 = 209000 MCB' s If Temasek takes up 96%, it has to pay $200,640 Others who takes up 4% pays $8360 Let' s say the orignal shares were worth $5. The cost price for Temasek is now ( 56,000 X $5 +$200,640) / 396680 = $1.21 per share The cost price for " others" is now ( 44,000 X $5 + $8360 / 58195 = $3.92 per share These additional shares are not tradable until 2030.  Temasek is the owner and has reduced its cost. It can buy back shares any price it wants. So for the others with cost price $3.92 in 2030, not so bad right?   Sparrow999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 15:41) Posted: The problem about mcb is not about the unit share price after it matured. Its the additional billions of news shares adding into the total volume of SIA shares is deadly.  Firstly, it will definitely dilute the mother share severely, i estimated it will dilute the mother share price at least by half  secondly, when there' s so much shares in the market how to push up its share price? It' s extremely difficult to push its price in future  investor999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 05:54) Posted: Dear Eyxm86: Let me explain why this MCB will NOT be disadvantage to you as they claim. Don' t be misled by the analyst and internet. If you do a research, it is likely they tell you this MCB is diluting the shares. Let' s say you bought 10,000 SIA shares at a price of $5.50 which was the high price. You paid $55,000. You received 20900 MCB rights. You need to pay $20900 to receive 20900 MCB On 8 June 2030, you get additional 14587 MCB In total you will have 35487 MCB You convert these to SIA shares and you get 7332 SIA new shares. Now your share diluted to 17332 SIA shares.  These cost you $55,000 + $20900. Therefore you paid $4.38 for these shares On the other hand, the person who sold you the 10,000 shares at $5.50 do not have the shares and had borrowed from the securities. Since you did not buy from SIA  as your shares came from the securities, you are buying from a agent. Therefore you paid these $20900 to the agent who in turn has to give you the shares in future.  On the other hand the agent lent the shares, the $20900 went to the borrower to dilute the shares. As the cost price of the shares has reduced to $4.38 by dilution, the borrower has to buy back the shares from the Market below $4.38 to make money. This is why the analyst are saying the shares are worth much less now
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ayy002 Senior	06-Jun-2021 18:19        ayy002 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will SIA goes privates?
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Sparrow999 Senior	06-Jun-2021 15:41        Sparrow999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The problem about mcb is not about the unit share price after it matured. Its the additional billions of news shares adding into the total volume of SIA shares is deadly.  Firstly, it will definitely dilute the mother share severely, i estimated it will dilute the mother share price at least by half  secondly, when there' s so much shares in the market how to push up its share price? It' s extremely difficult to push its price in future  investor999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 05:54) Posted: Dear Eyxm86: Let me explain why this MCB will NOT be disadvantage to you as they claim. Don' t be misled by the analyst and internet. If you do a research, it is likely they tell you this MCB is diluting the shares. Let' s say you bought 10,000 SIA shares at a price of $5.50 which was the high price. You paid $55,000. You received 20900 MCB rights. You need to pay $20900 to receive 20900 MCB On 8 June 2030, you get additional 14587 MCB In total you will have 35487 MCB You convert these to SIA shares and you get 7332 SIA new shares. Now your share diluted to 17332 SIA shares.  These cost you $55,000 + $20900. Therefore you paid $4.38 for these shares On the other hand, the person who sold you the 10,000 shares at $5.50 do not have the shares and had borrowed from the securities. Since you did not buy from SIA  as your shares came from the securities, you are buying from a agent. Therefore you paid these $20900 to the agent who in turn has to give you the shares in future.  On the other hand the agent lent the shares, the $20900 went to the borrower to dilute the shares. As the cost price of the shares has reduced to $4.38 by dilution, the borrower has to buy back the shares from the Market below $4.38 to make money. This is why the analyst are saying the shares are worth much less now. Eyxm86      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 17:58) Posted: thank you much! so i just top up $1000@ for 1000 shares? where and when must i do it? also, how i sell back to SIA within the 9 years period? or only if SIA want redeem it then everyone snatch to sell the bond
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Eyxm86 Member	06-Jun-2021 11:39        Eyxm86 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	thank you for.taking time to.write this! investor999      ( Date: 06-Jun-2021 05:54) Posted: Dear Eyxm86: Let me explain why this MCB will NOT be disadvantage to you as they claim. Don' t be misled by the analyst and internet. If you do a research, it is likely they tell you this MCB is diluting the shares. Let' s say you bought 10,000 SIA shares at a price of $5.50 which was the high price. You paid $55,000. You received 20900 MCB rights. You need to pay $20900 to receive 20900 MCB On 8 June 2030, you get additional 14587 MCB In total you will have 35487 MCB You convert these to SIA shares and you get 7332 SIA new shares. Now your share diluted to 17332 SIA shares.  These cost you $55,000 + $20900. Therefore you paid $4.38 for these shares On the other hand, the person who sold you the 10,000 shares at $5.50 do not have the shares and had borrowed from the securities. Since you did not buy from SIA  as your shares came from the securities, you are buying from a agent. Therefore you paid these $20900 to the agent who in turn has to give you the shares in future.  On the other hand the agent lent the shares, the $20900 went to the borrower to dilute the shares. As the cost price of the shares has reduced to $4.38 by dilution, the borrower has to buy back the shares from the Market below $4.38 to make money. This is why the analyst are saying the shares are worth much less now. Eyxm86      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 17:58) Posted: thank you much! so i just top up $1000@ for 1000 shares? where and when must i do it? also, how i sell back to SIA within the 9 years period? or only if SIA want redeem it then everyone snatch to sell the bond
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