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creamyazure Member	15-Dec-2015 10:22        creamyazure About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fully understand your view point. For now, I  still prefer to stay aside cos I had lost  TREMENDOUSLY on this stock in last 5 years!!!  This time,  I will only accumulate the stocks when it really delivers performance U-turn, hoping the management can really do  a good  job.  Afterall, Hyflux is still my favorite one but the current timing and situation are really undesirable. Qanghoo      ( Date: 15-Dec-2015 09:58) Posted: But sometimes, hard to tell.  SMM buying back @4SGD, maybe now crying.  2009 was before Arab Springs, prior to their troubles in Africa.  Maybe they cld have managed their risks better.  But perhaps easier said than done.  creamyazure      ( Date: 15-Dec-2015 09:54) Posted: I guess they clearly  know that  it  will be really  insignificant whether to use the remaining bullets or not. They have wasted those precious money too much, too early in previous buybacks since year 2009.
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latebird Member	15-Dec-2015 10:18        latebird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Poor management they have. The govt should just take over hyflux.
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paranomic123 Veteran	15-Dec-2015 10:08        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Quite true. Australia just blown out it fiscal budget. - hot news. Iron Ore slump.. Better save some bullets. creamyazure      ( Date: 15-Dec-2015 09:57) Posted: The following is the correction (in yellow color) to my early post: " Unfortunately, Hyflux has just used the last 17.5%(14.1 million shares) of allowable treasury quota 80.7 million shares in the last batch of buybacks till 30 Nov, it has just run out of available bullets to defend! Since then hyflux never resist falling any more:( Moreover, do not see any major share holders to increase their holdings. Perhaps something bad is happening... hope not"   Please note the the above correction does not change the fact that Hyflux is running out of its buyback program bullets to defend its share, and its remaining 1.4 million shares of buyback quota becomes insignificant at all. The correction is for the purpose of perfection-of-accuracy, based on facts only. Apology for the inconvenience.   creamyazure      ( Date: 10-Dec-2015 08:47) Posted: Unfortunately, Hyflux has just used the last 17.5%(S$14.1 million) of allowable treasury quota $80.7 million in the last batch of buybacks till 30 Nov, it has just run out of available bullets to defend! Since then hyflux never resist falling any more:( Moreover, do not see any major share holders to increase their holdings. Perhaps something bad is happening... hope not
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Qanghoo Supreme	15-Dec-2015 09:58        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But sometimes, hard to tell.  SMM buying back @4SGD, maybe now crying.  2009 was before Arab Springs, prior to their troubles in Africa.  Maybe they cld have managed their risks better.  But perhaps easier said than done.  creamyazure      ( Date: 15-Dec-2015 09:54) Posted: I guess they clearly  know that  it  will be really  insignificant whether to use the remaining bullets or not. They have wasted those precious money too much, too early in previous buybacks since year 2009. paranomic123      ( Date: 15-Dec-2015 09:44) Posted: What is the management thinking now? Still have some budget for share-buy back.. what are they holding?
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creamyazure Member	15-Dec-2015 09:57        creamyazure About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The following is the correction (in yellow color) to my early post: " Unfortunately, Hyflux has just used the last 17.5%(14.1 million shares) of allowable treasury quota 80.7 million shares in the last batch of buybacks till 30 Nov, it has just run out of available bullets to defend! Since then hyflux never resist falling any more:( Moreover, do not see any major share holders to increase their holdings. Perhaps something bad is happening... hope not"   Please note the the above correction does not change the fact that Hyflux is running out of its buyback program bullets to defend its share, and its remaining 1.4 million shares of buyback quota becomes insignificant at all. The correction is for the purpose of perfection-of-accuracy, based on facts only. Apology for the inconvenience.   creamyazure      ( Date: 10-Dec-2015 08:47) Posted: Unfortunately, Hyflux has just used the last 17.5%(S$14.1 million) of allowable treasury quota $80.7 million in the last batch of buybacks till 30 Nov, it has just run out of available bullets to defend! Since then hyflux never resist falling any more:( Moreover, do not see any major share holders to increase their holdings. Perhaps something bad is happening... hope not
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creamyazure Member	15-Dec-2015 09:54        creamyazure About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I guess they clearly  know that  it  will be really  insignificant whether to use the remaining bullets or not. They have wasted those precious money too much, too early in previous buybacks since year 2009. paranomic123      ( Date: 15-Dec-2015 09:44) Posted: What is the management thinking now? Still have some budget for share-buy back.. what are they holding?
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Qanghoo Supreme	15-Dec-2015 09:51        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Great  foresight.  SG bond pays great div.  paranomic123      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 15:24) Posted: I was speaking to my counterparts. We talk about the recent sale of NOL at 1.3 instead of the earlier offer of 1.5. Side note to you guys, these TH people are also not fools. When they were offered 1.5 earlier, they did not take the bait and reject. 20 cents is how much $$ impact to our sovereign funds..So what makes them willing to sell at 1.3 to the french? Becos in this current economy environment, it only worth this much. Going further, they can consider $1.10. Therefore they bite the bullet.
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paranomic123 Veteran	15-Dec-2015 09:44        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What is the management thinking now? Still have some budget for share-buy back.. what are they holding?
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paranomic123 Veteran	14-Dec-2015 15:30        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China&rsquo s biggest shipping reform failed to enthuse investors as two major companies lost about $900 million in total market value after the government proposed combining its two key ocean liner groups. -Bloomberge Source.. Looks like NOL is a bullet biting move by TH. What does it signifies for the future.. your call.
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paranomic123 Veteran	14-Dec-2015 15:24        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I was speaking to my counterparts. We talk about the recent sale of NOL at 1.3 instead of the earlier offer of 1.5. Side note to you guys, these TH people are also not fools. When they were offered 1.5 earlier, they did not take the bait and reject. 20 cents is how much $$ impact to our sovereign funds..So what makes them willing to sell at 1.3 to the french? Becos in this current economy environment, it only worth this much. Going further, they can consider $1.10. Therefore they bite the bullet.
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latebird Member	14-Dec-2015 15:22        latebird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	100000 shares sensible to cut loss. ohlele      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 15:17) Posted: Cut loss if it is getting too depressing. I cut mine 2 weeks ago. 100 lots of 0.025 cents. 0.635 - 0.61. Imagine if I didnt cut, lose till siao... gsasgx      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 15:00) Posted: i had the same bad experience with this counter as well, luckily left early, lost little bit, never want to touch tis counter again!
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ohlele Senior	14-Dec-2015 15:17        ohlele About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cut loss if it is getting too depressing. I cut mine 2 weeks ago. 100 lots of 0.025 cents. 0.635 - 0.61. Imagine if I didnt cut, lose till siao... gsasgx      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 15:00) Posted: i had the same bad experience with this counter as well, luckily left early, lost little bit, never want to touch tis counter again! latebird      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 14:58) Posted: Depressing counter. Placing my faith in the wrong stock.
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paranomic123 Veteran	14-Dec-2015 15:01        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Note, India wholesale price dipped...Bloomberge news 2:35p.m Commodities no hope.. developing countries kenna big time.  Developed countries no need any raw materials shows economy is not on the bright side.  ECB is also going at the wrong move on the recent currency decision. It seems like a BIG tsunamis is elvoving.
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Qanghoo Supreme	14-Dec-2015 15:00        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Brother, so many other ctrs also very depressed.  Just that we have not highlighted yet.  So, don' t be so depressed, leh.  latebird      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 14:58) Posted: Depressing counter. Placing my faith in the wrong stock.
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gsasgx Member	14-Dec-2015 15:00        gsasgx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i had the same bad experience with this counter as well, luckily left early, lost little bit, never want to touch tis counter again! latebird      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 14:58) Posted: Depressing counter. Placing my faith in the wrong stock.
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latebird Member	14-Dec-2015 14:58        latebird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Depressing counter. Placing my faith in the wrong stock.
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paranomic123 Veteran	14-Dec-2015 14:57        paranomic123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Well , looking at the price, looks like gonna get lower .. if breaks 50 cents then all hell broke loose.  Again, my holdings are for my kids. these are just extra monies so no impact to me at all. But guys you really have to watch out. Not sure hyflux may visit commodities low of 15 cents to 30 cents in 2001 and 2002.  Again the terrain is tight given the commodities crash.. (not finish yet). Oil price also crashing as OPEC decision to " pump" as you like .. is to control the market. However, it seems more of a political reason to me. With IRAN and US also joining in the price war. Cos business to me is about profit and not damaging your cost. This in this case is happening. So end of the day if Brent crude were to drop to 20 USD/barrel, Hyflux may see a 20-30 cents zone.  Energy at low cost , may seems WTE project may not be a viable project anymore.
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fortunecat Master	14-Dec-2015 11:23        fortunecat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thought it' s going to be took over at current price liao latebird      ( Date: 14-Dec-2015 11:16) Posted: Biosensors price hardly moved since sti started falling
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latebird Member	14-Dec-2015 11:16        latebird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Biosensors price hardly moved since sti started falling
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latebird Member	14-Dec-2015 11:14        latebird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	53 now, what the heck
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