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onionknight Veteran	04-Mar-2018 07:44        onionknight About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	when X-Fi was released, the share price was actually around 6 dollars, the price only dropped below 2 dollars at the end of 2014. Back then Creative was also facing stiff competition as X-Fi was not their unique technology (for example, asus also had a ' supremeFX X-Fi) Now they roll out a new super X-Fi which contain game changer technology, complements the VR which is the current hype. Anyways to respond to your 3 points: 1) It complements with machine learning. Next month they will be rolling out a new app which allows user to use it for free -  a smart move as they will be able to collect data to expand their " use head profile" database and gradually make the 3D surround sound better. In case you don' t know, that is how machine learning works. The model keeps improving with more and more quality data. It is a very smart move that they are making the app free to collect quality data from the mass users. 2) Hello, multichannel sound is a " tiny fragment" ??? the market is " extremely small" ? It is the current standard! tell me which movies being released now is not in multichannel sound. but if you only watch porn then I got nothing to say. 3) Here' s an audio forum for your reference. They already start to talk about the super X-Fi after the NES in Jan 2018. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/creative-super-x-fi-headphone-holography.869663/ and some other reviews: https://www.soundguys.com/creative-announces-super-x-fi-headphones-and-dongles-15585/ https://www.cnet.com/news/creatives-new-super-x-fi-audio-tech-is-frigging-mind-blowing/ bigdragon966      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 23:01) Posted: Sim WH mentioned this when he launched his xifi many years back:  " rip a track from cd, compress it using mp3, then play the mp3 file using my xifi card, the sound produced is better than the original cd track" . Do you believe ceo from a tech company (especially tech co dealing with sound technology) can make sure statement?  but some people believe it initiately. Now You and I know what is the performance of xifi and how good is the sale - the share price was close to $1. Now comes the super xfi.  If you want to find out what are the opinions are the real users and audiophiles, go visit some of the forums - Not very good opinion. A few points: 1.  It doesn' t have a head tracker - it will cause problem with listener if the claim of 3d sound if true. 2.  It won' t work well with just any sound tracks.  It works best with sound tracks encoded with multichannel sound normally from movie soundtrack.  So it may capture a tiny fragment of homethreatre maket, and may be a bit for gamer.  So even if the technology works, the market is extremely small. 3.  So far the reviews are only from tech mag, no sound mag or audiophile mag makes a review.   onionknight      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 19:33) Posted: Let me tell you why you are wrong. 1) For a tech company, its IP and patents are the fundamentals. The X-Fi is already validated in US and gotten raved reviews. There is no reason for those tech magazine editors to lie, to assess a product in all honesty and giving fair comparisons is their bread and butter. They know what they are saying and they mean it. The only concern is whether the mass production will be as good as the prototype, but hey, it is not the first time creative turning their IP into products.  2) Yes it has been losing money,but because they pump so much into R& D and been staying under the radar. For now, it is HARVESTING time. 3) Given that creative is like (or used to be) the crown jewel of Singapore tech company, and how singapore government is pushing its smart city initiatives, its technology will surely be getting attention and fully utilized. The 3-D holographic sound has limitless potential,not just in audio entertainment, but also complements the virtual reality, which has numerous applications in engineering (e.g. construction), military (such as combat and flight simulation), gaming, education, telecommunication and so on. I' ll know their initiatives as I am in A*STAR. It is your freedom whether to agree with me but I know a lot of people will.
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RocketTrader Member	04-Mar-2018 01:51        RocketTrader About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You haven't considered the marketing price point at the b2c business. And also the chipset licensing business that will go into other audio brands, the b2b. Theres a lot of runway for growth. That why the stock is at 5 now after just 1 week. bigdragon966      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 23:01) Posted: Sim WH mentioned this when he launched his xifi many years back:  " rip a track from cd, compress it using mp3, then play the mp3 file using my xifi card, the sound produced is better than the original cd track" . Do you believe ceo from a tech company (especially tech co dealing with sound technology) can make sure statement?  but some people believe it initiately. Now You and I know what is the performance of xifi and how good is the sale - the share price was close to $1. Now comes the super xfi.  If you want to find out what are the opinions are the real users and audiophiles, go visit some of the forums - Not very good opinion. A few points: 1.  It doesn' t have a head tracker - it will cause problem with listener if the claim of 3d sound if true. 2.  It won' t work well with just any sound tracks.  It works best with sound tracks encoded with multichannel sound normally from movie soundtrack.  So it may capture a tiny fragment of homethreatre maket, and may be a bit for gamer.  So even if the technology works, the market is extremely small. 3.  So far the reviews are only from tech mag, no sound mag or audiophile mag makes a review.   onionknight      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 19:33) Posted: Let me tell you why you are wrong. 1) For a tech company, its IP and patents are the fundamentals. The X-Fi is already validated in US and gotten raved reviews. There is no reason for those tech magazine editors to lie, to assess a product in all honesty and giving fair comparisons is their bread and butter. They know what they are saying and they mean it. The only concern is whether the mass production will be as good as the prototype, but hey, it is not the first time creative turning their IP into products.  2) Yes it has been losing money,but because they pump so much into R& D and been staying under the radar. For now, it is HARVESTING time. 3) Given that creative is like (or used to be) the crown jewel of Singapore tech company, and how singapore government is pushing its smart city initiatives, its technology will surely be getting attention and fully utilized. The 3-D holographic sound has limitless potential,not just in audio entertainment, but also complements the virtual reality, which has numerous applications in engineering (e.g. construction), military (such as combat and flight simulation), gaming, education, telecommunication and so on. I' ll know their initiatives as I am in A*STAR. It is your freedom whether to agree with me but I know a lot of people will.
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bigdragon966 Senior	03-Mar-2018 23:01        bigdragon966 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Sim WH mentioned this when he launched his xifi many years back:  " rip a track from cd, compress it using mp3, then play the mp3 file using my xifi card, the sound produced is better than the original cd track" . Do you believe ceo from a tech company (especially tech co dealing with sound technology) can make sure statement?  but some people believe it initiately. Now You and I know what is the performance of xifi and how good is the sale - the share price was close to $1. Now comes the super xfi.  If you want to find out what are the opinions are the real users and audiophiles, go visit some of the forums - Not very good opinion. A few points: 1.  It doesn' t have a head tracker - it will cause problem with listener if the claim of 3d sound if true. 2.  It won' t work well with just any sound tracks.  It works best with sound tracks encoded with multichannel sound normally from movie soundtrack.  So it may capture a tiny fragment of homethreatre maket, and may be a bit for gamer.  So even if the technology works, the market is extremely small. 3.  So far the reviews are only from tech mag, no sound mag or audiophile mag makes a review.   onionknight      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 19:33) Posted: Let me tell you why you are wrong. 1) For a tech company, its IP and patents are the fundamentals. The X-Fi is already validated in US and gotten raved reviews. There is no reason for those tech magazine editors to lie, to assess a product in all honesty and giving fair comparisons is their bread and butter. They know what they are saying and they mean it. The only concern is whether the mass production will be as good as the prototype, but hey, it is not the first time creative turning their IP into products.  2) Yes it has been losing money,but because they pump so much into R& D and been staying under the radar. For now, it is HARVESTING time. 3) Given that creative is like (or used to be) the crown jewel of Singapore tech company, and how singapore government is pushing its smart city initiatives, its technology will surely be getting attention and fully utilized. The 3-D holographic sound has limitless potential,not just in audio entertainment, but also complements the virtual reality, which has numerous applications in engineering (e.g. construction), military (such as combat and flight simulation), gaming, education, telecommunication and so on. I' ll know their initiatives as I am in A*STAR. It is your freedom whether to agree with me but I know a lot of people will.   machidrain      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 17:44) Posted: monday continue to short. loss making company, no fundamental. confirm go down.. believe me.
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commando Master	03-Mar-2018 20:41        commando About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I let go wth profit....maybe should hold a bit longer....will monitor to buy in...all huat argh
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onionknight Veteran	03-Mar-2018 19:33        onionknight About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Let me tell you why you are wrong. 1) For a tech company, its IP and patents are the fundamentals. The X-Fi is already validated in US and gotten raved reviews. There is no reason for those tech magazine editors to lie, to assess a product in all honesty and giving fair comparisons is their bread and butter. They know what they are saying and they mean it. The only concern is whether the mass production will be as good as the prototype, but hey, it is not the first time creative turning their IP into products.  2) Yes it has been losing money,but because they pump so much into R& D and been staying under the radar. For now, it is HARVESTING time. 3) Given that creative is like (or used to be) the crown jewel of Singapore tech company, and how singapore government is pushing its smart city initiatives, its technology will surely be getting attention and fully utilized. The 3-D holographic sound has limitless potential,not just in audio entertainment, but also complements the virtual reality, which has numerous applications in engineering (e.g. construction), military (such as combat and flight simulation), gaming, education, telecommunication and so on. I' ll know their initiatives as I am in A*STAR. It is your freedom whether to agree with me but I know a lot of people will.   machidrain      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 17:44) Posted: monday continue to short. loss making company, no fundamental. confirm go down.. believe me.
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lifeisgood Supreme	03-Mar-2018 19:19        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	once my wife agrees I will buy! she always asked me to turn down the volume . very sian. risktaker      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 19:04) Posted: Try the sonic carrier ... its the best sound bar on earth.... for sgd 3999 onionknight      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 18:58) Posted: can get some and hold. wont reach 10 too soon though, maybe after summer. for now I see it drifting in the 4-6 rang
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risktaker Supreme	03-Mar-2018 19:04        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Try the sonic carrier ... its the best sound bar on earth.... for sgd 3999 onionknight      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 18:58) Posted: can get some and hold. wont reach 10 too soon though, maybe after summer. for now I see it drifting in the 4-6 range lifeisgood      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 18:38) Posted: Lets huat together
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onionknight Veteran	03-Mar-2018 18:58        onionknight About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	can get some and hold. wont reach 10 too soon though, maybe after summer. for now I see it drifting in the 4-6 range lifeisgood      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 18:38) Posted: Lets huat together ! risktaker      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 17:56) Posted: I think can see 10 SGD ...the product is unbelievable good.... If they sell 10million * 100 SGD profit = 1 billion SGD profit If they sell 50 million * 100 SGD profit = 5 billion SGD profi
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lifeisgood Supreme	03-Mar-2018 18:38        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lets huat together ! risktaker      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 17:56) Posted: I think can see 10 SGD ...the product is unbelievable good.... If they sell 10million * 100 SGD profit = 1 billion SGD profit If they sell 50 million * 100 SGD profit = 5 billion SGD profit machidrain      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 17:44) Posted: monday continue to short. loss making company, no fundamental. confirm go down.. believe me.
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risktaker Supreme	03-Mar-2018 17:56        risktaker About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise "
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	I think can see 10 SGD ...the product is unbelievable good.... If they sell 10million * 100 SGD profit = 1 billion SGD profit If they sell 50 million * 100 SGD profit = 5 billion SGD profit machidrain      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 17:44) Posted: monday continue to short. loss making company, no fundamental. confirm go down.. believe me.
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machidrain Veteran	03-Mar-2018 17:44        machidrain About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	monday continue to short. loss making company, no fundamental. confirm go down.. believe me.
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Jamesbond007 Veteran	03-Mar-2018 16:01        Jamesbond007 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope  sim gets it right fhis fime round. chillipadi      ( Date: 03-Mar-2018 15:26) Posted: Tag me along if below $1... hehehe =D lifeisgood      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 22:46) Posted: Hehehehe...
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chillipadi Elite	03-Mar-2018 15:26        chillipadi About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Everything is temporary."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Tag me along if below $1... hehehe =D lifeisgood      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 22:46) Posted: Hehehehe.... onionknight      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 21:45) Posted: Why are you drooling, because you wanna absorb more
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lifeisgood Supreme	02-Mar-2018 22:46        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hehehehe.... onionknight      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 21:45) Posted: Why are you drooling, because you wanna absorb more? lifeisgood      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 20:18) Posted: I hope you are right. My saliva dripping liao..
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onionknight Veteran	02-Mar-2018 21:45        onionknight About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why are you drooling, because you wanna absorb more? lifeisgood      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 20:18) Posted: I hope you are right. My saliva dripping liao... john_ric      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 19:27) Posted: you sure creative worths this much? ​ if not BB will pump it up and dump it when there are enough retailers being trapped. can be dumped  to < 1.00 again. .
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johnng Supreme	02-Mar-2018 21:03        johnng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	other tech penny like memtech jep jadason sprinting...
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lifeisgood Supreme	02-Mar-2018 20:18        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I hope you are right. My saliva dripping liao... john_ric      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 19:27) Posted: you sure creative worths this much? ​ if not BB will pump it up and dump it when there are enough retailers being trapped. can be dumped  to < 1.00 again. .
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Sgvale Supreme	02-Mar-2018 20:12        Sgvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dow gg to fall Big again. But good for Creative. Gg by the psst 2 days trend. The more Dow fall, The more Creative rises. Hope Dow falls 1000 points tonight
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Justice888 Supreme	02-Mar-2018 19:30        Justice888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The hype now is... we don't know how much creative is worth . john_ric      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 19:27) Posted: you sure creative worths this much? ​ if not BB will pump it up and dump it when there are enough retailers being trapped. can be dumped  to < 1.00 again. .
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john_ric Supreme	02-Mar-2018 19:27        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you sure creative worths this much? ​ if not BB will pump it up and dump it when there are enough retailers being trapped. can be dumped  to < 1.00 again. .
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