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sun233 Elite	09-Jan-2017 10:39        sun233 About Contact  Quote this Post!
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sun233 Elite	09-Jan-2017 10:35        sun233 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Be careful all. Something is happening.......... Offshore Yuan Slips, Aussie Stocks Rally, Oil Down: Markets Wrap by  Benjamin Purvis January 9, 2017, 7:19 AM GMT+8  January 9, 2017, 9:53 AM GMT+8 U.K. currency slides following EU comments by prime minister Crude oil price down for first time in four sessions
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Mandy1986 Veteran	09-Jan-2017 09:24        Mandy1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
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Trexxx Veteran	09-Jan-2017 09:21        Trexxx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	grats to those who held longer, huat ah!
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lovetoshare Elite	09-Jan-2017 08:54        lovetoshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	More ppl going to drown in this stock Zero coupon no interest paid , u received principal after seven long years
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jlim777 Senior	07-Jan-2017 18:38        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not necessary, but probably better to ask for more to avoid odd lot. hamster99      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 12:17) Posted: Thanks for the sharing. Do you know if the notes subscription must be in the thousand ? I had 50K shares prior CO So I could subscribe 93 x 50 = 4650 Can I subscribe the exact amount ? Or it need to be round up / down ? jlim777      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 10:08) Posted: Yes, correct, in the beginning year of warrants of company which has promising future, very few will convert it to shares, unless you are the major shareholders who want to inject the money right away. The notes will be traded start from 25 Feb, so you have the option to sell the notes in the market. But there will be a discount on its price. Let say we assume market will rate with 4% interest per year, then the notes price will be 76 cents. If 5% then 71 cents, if 6% then 67 cents, if 7% then 62 cents. But of course if you don' t sell and wait until redemption, you will get 100%. For me, if market rate down the notes let say at 7%, I am better to keep it. Because you cannot get this 7% interest anywhere in Singapore financial market as retailer, unless you are the big player itself.
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hamster99 Member	07-Jan-2017 12:17        hamster99 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks for the sharing. Do you know if the notes subscription must be in the thousand ? I had 50K shares prior CO So I could subscribe 93 x 50 = 4650 Can I subscribe the exact amount ? Or it need to be round up / down ? jlim777      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 10:08) Posted: Yes, correct, in the beginning year of warrants of company which has promising future, very few will convert it to shares, unless you are the major shareholders who want to inject the money right away. The notes will be traded start from 25 Feb, so you have the option to sell the notes in the market. But there will be a discount on its price. Let say we assume market will rate with 4% interest per year, then the notes price will be 76 cents. If 5% then 71 cents, if 6% then 67 cents, if 7% then 62 cents. But of course if you don' t sell and wait until redemption, you will get 100%. For me, if market rate down the notes let say at 7%, I am better to keep it. Because you cannot get this 7% interest anywhere in Singapore financial market as retailer, unless you are the big player itself. lennon1986      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 09:46) Posted: Thanks again! In this case Keppel is taking Krisenergy as a really long term investment. Unless the stock rises high enough, then it is worth while to convert them into shares, but the downside is that the notes had to be hold for 7 yrs provided the company still survives.
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jlim777 Senior	07-Jan-2017 10:09        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry not 25 Feb, but 25 Jan. jlim777      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 10:08) Posted: Yes, correct, in the beginning year of warrants of company which has promising future, very few will convert it to shares, unless you are the major shareholders who want to inject the money right away. The notes will be traded start from 25 Feb, so you have the option to sell the notes in the market. But there will be a discount on its price. Let say we assume market will rate with 4% interest per year, then the notes price will be 76 cents. If 5% then 71 cents, if 6% then 67 cents, if 7% then 62 cents. But of course if you don' t sell and wait until redemption, you will get 100%. For me, if market rate down the notes let say at 7%, I am better to keep it. Because you cannot get this 7% interest anywhere in Singapore financial market as retailer, unless you are the big player itself. lennon1986      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 09:46) Posted: Thanks again! In this case Keppel is taking Krisenergy as a really long term investment. Unless the stock rises high enough, then it is worth while to convert them into shares, but the downside is that the notes had to be hold for 7 yrs provided the company still survives.
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jlim777 Senior	07-Jan-2017 10:08        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, correct, in the beginning year of warrants of company which has promising future, very few will convert it to shares, unless you are the major shareholders who want to inject the money right away. The notes will be traded start from 25 Feb, so you have the option to sell the notes in the market. But there will be a discount on its price. Let say we assume market will rate with 4% interest per year, then the notes price will be 76 cents. If 5% then 71 cents, if 6% then 67 cents, if 7% then 62 cents. But of course if you don' t sell and wait until redemption, you will get 100%. For me, if market rate down the notes let say at 7%, I am better to keep it. Because you cannot get this 7% interest anywhere in Singapore financial market as retailer, unless you are the big player itself. lennon1986      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 09:46) Posted: Thanks again! In this case Keppel is taking Krisenergy as a really long term investment. Unless the stock rises high enough, then it is worth while to convert them into shares, but the downside is that the notes had to be hold for 7 yrs provided the company still survives.
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lennon1986 Member	07-Jan-2017 09:46        lennon1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks again! In this case Keppel is taking Krisenergy as a really long term investment. Unless the stock rises high enough, then it is worth while to convert them into shares, but the downside is that the notes had to be hold for 7 yrs provided the company still survives.
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jlim777 Senior	07-Jan-2017 08:36        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, for Ezion right now, if someone buy warrant at market and exercise it, he will incur cost $0.539. But for warrants that still have long period to due, buyers buy warrants now are not for exercising the warrants now, they hope the share price will increase in the future, and either they sell again the warrants in the future or exercise it in the future. Why buy warrants and not the shares itself, mostly because (1) buying warrants are cheaper than the mother shares itself (2). If mother shares price increase, the percentage of profit for warrants are higher than mother shares itself, that is why they are willing to pay for premium. If warrants price doesn' t have premium, warrants market are not very liquid, because no incentive for the holders to sell. For KrisEnergy, with current shares price $0.2, the warrants price will be more than $0.09. lennon1986      ( Date: 07-Jan-2017 00:46) Posted: If Excercise cost is $0.45 and warrant cost is $0.089 cents that' s mean per share redeem is cost $0.539 right? Which is more expensive than market share price of $0.45 right? So for the warrant most like is expected to be $(0.2-0.11)=approximately $0.09 right?   jlim777      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 23:59) Posted: Sorry typo, not -0.05 cents, but -5 cents.
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lennon1986 Member	07-Jan-2017 00:46        lennon1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If Excercise cost is $0.45 and warrant cost is $0.089 cents that' s mean per share redeem is cost $0.539 right? Which is more expensive than market share price of $0.45 right? So for the warrant most like is expected to be $(0.2-0.11)=approximately $0.09 right?   jlim777      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 23:59) Posted: Sorry typo, not -0.05 cents, but -5 cents. jlim777      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 23:57) Posted: Warrant price is usually share price - exercise cost + premium. The longer warrant expiry date, premium will be greater. For example, Ezion share price now is 40 cents. Ezion warrant exercise cost is 45 cents. The difference is -0.05 cents, then logically nobody wants the warrant and warrant price should be 0.1 cent right? But no, the warrant price now is 8.9 cents, so it has 13.9 cents premium. KrisEnergy warrants expiry date is 84 months after issuance.
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jlim777 Senior	06-Jan-2017 23:59        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry typo, not -0.05 cents, but -5 cents. jlim777      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 23:57) Posted: Warrant price is usually share price - exercise cost + premium. The longer warrant expiry date, premium will be greater. For example, Ezion share price now is 40 cents. Ezion warrant exercise cost is 45 cents. The difference is -0.05 cents, then logically nobody wants the warrant and warrant price should be 0.1 cent right? But no, the warrant price now is 8.9 cents, so it has 13.9 cents premium. KrisEnergy warrants expiry date is 84 months after issuance. lennon1986      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 22:54) Posted: Hi, need some advice on this warant thingy. How is the warrants being exercised based on the example: Here.  Example A company has warrants exercisable for ordinary shares on a basis of one share per warrant at an exercise price of S$1.50, expiring on 31 July 2005. The current price of the warrant is 30 cents and that of the share is S$1.60.  Each warrant costs you 30 cents. Before 31 July 2005, you have the right to subscribe for the share at $1.50. Your total cost will be S$1.80, compared with only S$1.60 if you buy the share now. The difference of 20 cents is the premium you pay if you believe the share price will rise but you do not wish to commit a large sum of money for the shares now.After 31 July 2005, the warrant expires and is worthless. You must exercise the warrant, i.e. subscribe for the underlying share, or sell it five market days before the expiry date. Understand that the excercise price is $0.11 So how is the warrant price is being determined for Krisenergy?
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jlim777 Senior	06-Jan-2017 23:57        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Warrant price is usually share price - exercise cost + premium. The longer warrant expiry date, premium will be greater. For example, Ezion share price now is 40 cents. Ezion warrant exercise cost is 45 cents. The difference is -0.05 cents, then logically nobody wants the warrant and warrant price should be 0.1 cent right? But no, the warrant price now is 8.9 cents, so it has 13.9 cents premium. KrisEnergy warrants expiry date is 84 months after issuance. lennon1986      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 22:54) Posted: Hi, need some advice on this warant thingy. How is the warrants being exercised based on the example: Here.  Example A company has warrants exercisable for ordinary shares on a basis of one share per warrant at an exercise price of S$1.50, expiring on 31 July 2005. The current price of the warrant is 30 cents and that of the share is S$1.60.  Each warrant costs you 30 cents. Before 31 July 2005, you have the right to subscribe for the share at $1.50. Your total cost will be S$1.80, compared with only S$1.60 if you buy the share now. The difference of 20 cents is the premium you pay if you believe the share price will rise but you do not wish to commit a large sum of money for the shares now.After 31 July 2005, the warrant expires and is worthless. You must exercise the warrant, i.e. subscribe for the underlying share, or sell it five market days before the expiry date. Understand that the excercise price is $0.11 So how is the warrant price is being determined for Krisenergy?
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jlim777 Senior	06-Jan-2017 23:49        jlim777 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My note offer is already at CDP. If yours is already in your CDP, you just go to ATM and subscribe the notes. Latest to subscribe is on 16 Jan. Notes and warrants will be registered in your CDP on 24 Jan. limahping      ( Date: 05-Jan-2017 16:06) Posted: HI, I am a small investor.  Own some Kris Energy since the Cum Offer (CO) time. According to the company web page, the zero coupon note (with free warrant) is supposed to be listed like on 13 Jan 17. Todate, I have not received any document to subscribe for the zero coupon note.  I went to SGX web site, also no picture no sound. Any one know when the offer document will be available fro subscribtion? Thanks.
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lennon1986 Member	06-Jan-2017 22:54        lennon1986 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi, need some advice on this warant thingy. How is the warrants being exercised based on the example: Here.  Example A company has warrants exercisable for ordinary shares on a basis of one share per warrant at an exercise price of S$1.50, expiring on 31 July 2005. The current price of the warrant is 30 cents and that of the share is S$1.60.  Each warrant costs you 30 cents. Before 31 July 2005, you have the right to subscribe for the share at $1.50. Your total cost will be S$1.80, compared with only S$1.60 if you buy the share now. The difference of 20 cents is the premium you pay if you believe the share price will rise but you do not wish to commit a large sum of money for the shares now.After 31 July 2005, the warrant expires and is worthless. You must exercise the warrant, i.e. subscribe for the underlying share, or sell it five market days before the expiry date. Understand that the excercise price is $0.11 So how is the warrant price is being determined for Krisenergy?
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lovetoshare Elite	06-Jan-2017 18:59        lovetoshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good choice Trexxx      ( Date: 05-Jan-2017 15:41) Posted: exited 0.199. wish all huat Trexxx      ( Date: 05-Jan-2017 15:35) Posted: can this go pass 22cent and continue uptrend?
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lovetoshare Elite	06-Jan-2017 18:58        lovetoshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You had already answered your own question. If so good future. Keppel will privatized. And if the warrants so good.....by now the price already gone above 0.210. But it is not......so u tot your answer...... Azure1984      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 13:46) Posted: My guess... The first few session will probably see some drop in price as people might want to lock in the free warrant profit. After which, it really depends if the company can generate profits after taking into account their operation and investment activities and the global crude oil price. If oil price can maintain at this current level or higher, Kirs will likely start generating profits to pay down debt. For most people that take up the offer, I believe they will wait and see, since we got 7 years to decide to convert into shares or sell off on open market. If its really good, Keppel might just consider privateization some years down the road since they already own close to 40% of the company. I believe I have read somewhere that they are prepared to take up the leftover offers should there be any that are not subscribed by the shareholders.... rogeryap      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 13:00) Posted: Question is how will this warrants affect KrisEnergy share price? When it get listed, kris price Will plunge or not?
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alexchew Master	06-Jan-2017 13:58        alexchew About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if keppel dont support, and KE price plunges, keppel will have to write down its investments...   i will think,keppel has no other choices but to give full support.
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Azure1984 Member	06-Jan-2017 13:46        Azure1984 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My guess... The first few session will probably see some drop in price as people might want to lock in the free warrant profit. After which, it really depends if the company can generate profits after taking into account their operation and investment activities and the global crude oil price. If oil price can maintain at this current level or higher, Kirs will likely start generating profits to pay down debt. For most people that take up the offer, I believe they will wait and see, since we got 7 years to decide to convert into shares or sell off on open market. If its really good, Keppel might just consider privateization some years down the road since they already own close to 40% of the company. I believe I have read somewhere that they are prepared to take up the leftover offers should there be any that are not subscribed by the shareholders.... rogeryap      ( Date: 06-Jan-2017 13:00) Posted: Question is how will this warrants affect KrisEnergy share price? When it get listed, kris price Will plunge or not?
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