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Alset International (SeD) The new beginning
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investshare
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18-Aug-2016 19:50
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I think SembM should have some bargaining power. They can choose not to continue the work.
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earlybird14
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18-Aug-2016 19:35
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Basically sete Brazil seeking charity from all shipbuilders. Sad case is the inventories purchased by SM and Keppel to build the rigs are specified for Petrobras deepwater oil field which is expensive and not competitive for other region.
Complicated. Sembmar cash on hand should always be monitored. Free cash flow stated in poems analysis is 1.39bil which is scary.
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investshare
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18-Aug-2016 19:20
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Bro, you bet big?
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Moomoomoo
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18-Aug-2016 18:05
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Thanks Bro. Fingers crossed. 2 years! Wait for 2 years!
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Equity1
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18-Aug-2016 17:56
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Is back to attractive price level
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investshare
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18-Aug-2016 17:39
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Not necessarily, SM should have already provided for this.
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Moomoomoo
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18-Aug-2016 17:26
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That means siao liao right? Haha my dream price of 2 cannot hit liao... Haiz
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investshare
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18-Aug-2016 16:33
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By Reuters    12 August 2016 22:31 GMT Sete Brasil will present on Friday a draft reorganisation plan that includes seeking up to $5 billion in funding and a dramatic downsizing of business, three months after the Brazilian rig builder sought court protection against 18 billion reais ($5.7 billion) in looming debt payments.
Rio de Janeiro-based Sete Brasil will ask creditors, which include some of the world' s top shipbuilders and the nation' s largest lenders, to endorse a plan to help build between eight and 12 rigs, down from an original target of 28, chief Eeecutive Officer Luiz Eduardo Carneiro said in an interview The plan will be submitted to a court in Rio de Janeiro, where Sete Brasil' s in-court reorganization is being handled. Fundraising could vary along with the number of rigs to be built and delivered to state-controlled Petrobras, Sete Brasil' s sole client, Carneiro said. While looking for clients other than Petrobras is a possibility, Sete Brasil' s priority is convincing the state firm to rent the rigs, said Eduardo Sampaio of Alvarez & Marsal Holdings, Sete Brasil' s main advisor. Founded in 2008 to fill the world' s biggest deep-water drilling fleet order, Sete Brasil had to file for bankruptcy protection in late April after efforts to secure a long-term contract with Petrobras failed. Petrobras owns 5% of the rig builder. The $90 billion project began to fall apart in 2014 when Petrobras and Sete Brasil became engulfed in Brazil' s worst corruption scandal, leading the Brazilian government - the main sponsor of the project - to delay promised financing and the signature of the long-term rig supplying contract. The tussle between Petrobras and Sete Brasil' s management and shareholders has forced the rig leaser' s creditors to write off some of the 15 billion reais in loans they extended to Sete Brasil. Sources have told Reuters that a collapse of Sete Brasil would be devastating not only for the banks, pension funds and investment firms that backed the project, but also for dozens of shipbuilders and manufacturers supplying the company. |
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Moomoomoo
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17-Aug-2016 09:14
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Wow... Thank u all for your views. :) think I just wait and see... No rush to cash out. Can wait 2 years no problem.. Just hope it can go up to 2 again. | ||||
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investshare
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17-Aug-2016 08:33
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If privatization then possible.
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earlybird14
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17-Aug-2016 08:31
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The coming years are challenging. The industry may fall to another container shipping industry in past 5-6 years. Oversupply and high competition. Oversupply in ship building facilities globally(shipyards) and oversupply in rigs which new rigs come in but old rigs with 20 years which supposed to be retired still in the market.
Last last rig buildings boom were in late 1980 which were oil price at record high and the rigs market boom again 2008 to 2013 when oil was above 100, then the supply last about 5 years to flood the market with rigs without job. To maintain not to lose money in next 3 years are very difficult not even talk about back to glory. But 2 dollars are reasonable expectation if sembmar can survive well in the industry but above 2, Become very unlikely.
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catalyst
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17-Aug-2016 08:04
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I think that your hope might be too optimistic. Recovery will be a long drawn out process in the next 2-3 years in my opinion. 
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Moomoomoo
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16-Aug-2016 16:30
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Hi all. Can someone share your views on the likely outcome on the Brazil case. Want to hear how investors feel about this. Thank u very much. I invested 10 lots over the past 2 months. Really hope that it can go up to 2.0 in 1 year time. Am I asking too much? Hahaha thanks. | ||||
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Moomoomoo
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16-Aug-2016 16:24
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Hi all. Can someone share your views on the likely outcome on the Brazil case. Want to hear how investors feel about this. Thank u very much. I invested 10 lots over the past 2 months. Really hope that it can go up to 2.0 in 1 year time. Am I asking too much? Hahaha thanks. | ||||
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investshare
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16-Aug-2016 09:50
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That' s really a big challenge. But I think, Brazil would want to move forward, especially post-Olympic, to boost its economy.  
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pnuklis
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16-Aug-2016 09:39
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First Petrobras will have to buy the bankrupt Sete and after that only the question of revival of the Sete project comes in to play. Till such time you can kiss good buy tp Sembmarine and Keppel shares. Current operation car wash and high profile corruption cases of President and Lula will have to be decided before Petrobras case comes up. Long way for recovery of the two jiant yards in Singapore even if the oil prices recover. |
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investshare
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16-Aug-2016 09:28
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With oil price increas I think it is possible. Though don't expect full payment, likely installment.
Vested $1.365 16/08
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investshare
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16-Aug-2016 09:26
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Equity1
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15-Aug-2016 22:47
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Tmr may test 1.40
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BreadPitt
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15-Aug-2016 16:57
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I think today or the next 3 days, the price was rein in by the ' Cold Turkey' effect after the dividends XD. After which someone may take your lunch away from you... | ||||
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