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goldvision Senior	31-Jul-2016 00:06        goldvision About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	People have the choice (industries, companies, balance sheets). If they take the risk (high risk, high returns), then there is a price to be paid. enjoylife77      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 23:52) Posted: Once every few years, many shareholders will pay to enrich the lifestyle of a few smart individual with big houses, fast expensive cars and luxury life style. Remember Celestial, Cosco, Hyflux, Asiason, Blumont, Liongold, Genting Sg, NOL, Olam, Noble, China Milk, Genting HK, YZJ, Albedo, Mirach energy, Magnus energy. PCRD, Ezion, Ezra, Technics Oil, Oceanus, Sino Grandness, China Minzhong, Rowsley.......... just to name a few More trap ahead.     Luckystrike      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 07:26) Posted: Another sad example of "do not love stock"
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 23:58        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree.. Best is stay away from stock market for good. If all the investment u jus put in bank 10 yrs ago, today at least still more then what you put into it. All crooks in securities.. Wonder why they call this con job securities and people who make u broke Brokers! If everyone of retail investors shun stocks , lets see who will be in trouble?
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enjoylife77 Veteran	30-Jul-2016 23:52        enjoylife77 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Once every few years, many shareholders will pay to enrich the lifestyle of a few smart individual with big houses, fast expensive cars and luxury life style. Remember Celestial, Cosco, Hyflux, Asiason, Blumont, Liongold, Genting Sg, NOL, Olam, Noble, China Milk, Genting HK, YZJ, Albedo, Mirach energy, Magnus energy. PCRD, Ezion, Ezra, Technics Oil, Oceanus, Sino Grandness, China Minzhong, Rowsley.......... just to name a few More trap ahead.     Luckystrike      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 07:26) Posted: Another sad example of "do not love stock". enjoylife77      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 05:39) Posted: A high flyer at $7.50 back in 2007 and now crashed to 10cents in an insolvent state. can confirm shareholder fund, which is last in the queue,   will be totally wipe out.  If you are still holding other O& G counter, better be defensive. Buy into a business model that you can easily understand.
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zandlery Supreme	30-Jul-2016 23:50        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if country can start a war becos of oil......do u think all those ppl involve in that conflict are all idiots?
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zandlery Supreme	30-Jul-2016 23:47        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	it simple......if one person see oil as redundancy and it a fact...but majority not seeing oil as redundant......you think which side is actually correct...... oil industry involved in economic n livelyhood of millions or billions of ppl.........
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 23:40        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyway either you are educated and intelligent to understand or you are not .. Either way don't let no tanakow tell you how the world runs ! That's all good night.
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 23:36        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Many countries do use fuel oil to run power stations to generate electricity. Yes it is efficient cost effective method. The alternative is solar, hydro Geo thermal wind and nuclear alternative,much much more cost effective and in Long run totally viable much cheaper alternative. Now Imagine if alternative sources of energy besides fuel oil is used. Overnight big oil companies will lose relevance and revenue, peripheral industries like oil tankers steel and copper and work force in traditional oil support industries lose employment. Can you imagine big oil companies shut down and lay off workers? Peripheral industries dependent on oil shut down and billions of workers globally dependent on a useless product called oil are unemployed? Oil is only important because it is a residual employer of billions of workers world wide and creates economy. Oil is not important but redundant as a tool for creating energy. That's what it means .
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 23:13        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Key word is REDUNDANCY.. Stupid.. Not UNNECESSARY.. tanahkow
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 23:09        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I bet my last dollar ah Beng tanakow will tell me you still need oil to run the world. Like I said.. Stupid is as stupid needs to be.. Might as well say although we have oxygen tanks to go diving underwater we still need air to breathe. Stupid tanakow! Miracle he makes money in the stock market !
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 22:54        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Too tired to argue with any ah Beng ah Seng tanahkow characters uneducated waste of effort and time
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 22:48        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How many tons of oil does it need to maintain And start up a nuclear energy power plant for one year .. Ans 40 metric tons a year. When was the first hydro electric generator motor vehicle (car) using only 1 litre of water to propel a 900cc vehicle invented to maintain 80km/hr momentum and in which county? Answer 1973 in India. Why is it unused? Ans.. Major oil companies Esso Mobil chevron and shell intervened to buy over copyright invention. 94% of electricity output in this country is derived from thermo hydro and solar energy and not fuel oil or coal? Ans.. New Zealand.
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 22:34        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If ignorance is bliss and this is Eden.. how will you define for stupidity? .. Ans.. tanahkow
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tanakow Member	30-Jul-2016 22:33        tanakow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You said crude oil redundant. My question to you is that how do you move containers from one place to another then. Instead of answering the question which will make you look stupid anyway you tried to change the subjectml. Soulcityy      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 22:23) Posted: How many manages does it take to destroy a company? Ans. . 3. How many employees do you need to run it? Ans 500. How many banks to finance it? Ans.. 1 (DBS) how many sucker share holders to be ruined by it? Ans.. 12500?
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 22:23        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How many manages does it take to destroy a company? Ans. . 3. How many employees do you need to run it? Ans 500. How many banks to finance it? Ans.. 1 (DBS) how many sucker share holders to be ruined by it? Ans.. 12500?
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tanakow Member	30-Jul-2016 21:45        tanakow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What do you use to move containers? Oars of sampans? How do you transport people from one place to another.? Use horse carriages? Soulcityy      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 21:30) Posted: Technology could have made crude oil redundant 45 years ago. It's only economies of scale and geo politics that is making black gold relevant. The repercussions of redundant oil are far too great to mitigate economically. It's a sunset industry this black liquid gold oil
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Soulcityy Senior	30-Jul-2016 21:30        Soulcityy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Technology could have made crude oil redundant 45 years ago. It's only economies of scale and geo politics that is making black gold relevant. The repercussions of redundant oil are far too great to mitigate economically. It's a sunset industry this black liquid gold oil
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Lost_on_Ezion Senior	30-Jul-2016 18:54        Lost_on_Ezion About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I remember i read somewhere that the cost of production for shale oil has been reduced to 30 per barrel due to improvement in technology in extraction. zandlery      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 17:43) Posted: it all bout the cost of production.......shale oil producer most likely fold up if oil price no improve for another year.......shale oil still more costly no matter what they say Lost_on_Ezion      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 16:57) Posted: Great analysis! What i can see here is that the USA shale oil revolution will supercede the offshore oil and gas industry mercilessly due to technological changes.
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zandlery Supreme	30-Jul-2016 17:43        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	it all bout the cost of production.......shale oil producer most likely fold up if oil price no improve for another year.......shale oil still more costly no matter what they say Lost_on_Ezion      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 16:57) Posted: Great analysis! What i can see here is that the USA shale oil revolution will supercede the offshore oil and gas industry mercilessly due to technological changes.       HazardKoh      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 16:52) Posted: the company will then make huge losses every quarter until negative NTA, then dispose of core business,  then issue billions of  shares for $$$ to look for new business etc..UNLESS oil price shoot back to at least $80 in the next 2 years.. so technically shareholders still have a chance but must pray very hard that oil price rises back to $80 and above asap. If oil price remains below $50 for the next  2 years, then this counter will be suspended for 2 years and then they will  say delist without any exit offer becos it has become negative NTA due to the huge losses every quarter. eg: Annica, blumont etc...this type of story is going on in Sgx for so many years liao.. Got a few managed to come back to life at a fraction of the previous share price... like china gaoxian... not impossible.. but even come back to life, i think can get back 1/4 very happy liao..
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Lost_on_Ezion Senior	30-Jul-2016 16:57        Lost_on_Ezion About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Great analysis! What i can see here is that the USA shale oil revolution will supercede the offshore oil and gas industry mercilessly due to technological changes.       HazardKoh      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 16:52) Posted: the company will then make huge losses every quarter until negative NTA, then dispose of core business,  then issue billions of  shares for $$$ to look for new business etc..UNLESS oil price shoot back to at least $80 in the next 2 years.. so technically shareholders still have a chance but must pray very hard that oil price rises back to $80 and above asap. If oil price remains below $50 for the next  2 years, then this counter will be suspended for 2 years and then they will  say delist without any exit offer becos it has become negative NTA due to the huge losses every quarter. eg: Annica, blumont etc...this type of story is going on in Sgx for so many years liao.. Got a few managed to come back to life at a fraction of the previous share price... like china gaoxian... not impossible.. but even come back to life, i think can get back 1/4 very happy liao..     Lost_on_Ezion      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 15:55) Posted: Whether JM or liquidation, equity investors like us get kosong.
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HazardKoh Master	30-Jul-2016 16:52        HazardKoh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the company will then make huge losses every quarter until negative NTA, then dispose of core business,  then issue billions of  shares for $$$ to look for new business etc..UNLESS oil price shoot back to at least $80 in the next 2 years.. so technically shareholders still have a chance but must pray very hard that oil price rises back to $80 and above asap. If oil price remains below $50 for the next  2 years, then this counter will be suspended for 2 years and then they will  say delist without any exit offer becos it has become negative NTA due to the huge losses every quarter. eg: Annica, blumont etc...this type of story is going on in Sgx for so many years liao.. Got a few managed to come back to life at a fraction of the previous share price... like china gaoxian... not impossible.. but even come back to life, i think can get back 1/4 very happy liao..     Lost_on_Ezion      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 15:55) Posted: Whether JM or liquidation, equity investors like us get kosong. moneyspinner      ( Date: 30-Jul-2016 14:47) Posted: Whether JM or direct liquidation, Swiber is a goner.   Difference is only that JM will take a longer time to liquidate all the assets.   Which financier in their frame of mind would like to fund a heavily indebted O & G company at this point in time with oil prices at historical low with no sign of a rebound?
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