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 Alert Admin 		James Pang - Walk the Talk !
Don' t bird talk us only and take us (minority shareholders) for granted only !
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 Alert Admin 		James Pang Ying is a BOD in YingLi & he is from CEL . 

Mr. Pan Ying

Mr. Pan was appointed to the Board in September 2014. He is the Chief Investment Officer and a member of the Management Decision Committee of China Everbright Limited (" CEL" ). He is responsible for the real estate fund, institutional sales and financing business of CEL. Mr. Pan is also a Director of Shanghai Jiabao Industry & Commerce (Group) Co., Ltd and a Non-Executive Independent Director of Sinopec Oilfield Service Corporation.

Prior to joining CEL, he worked for the Foreign Exchange Reserve Department of SAFE (China' s State Administration of Foreign Exchange), and established SAFE Investment Company Ltd., a Hong Kong-based wholly-owned subsidiary of the People' s Bank of China which had AUM of more than HKD20 billion. Mr. Pan joined Seagate, an asset management company in Los Angeles in 1998. In 2004, he co-founded SeaBright, where he acted as CEO, with China Everbright. At SeaBright, he set up two funds that focused on investment opportunities in China, which invested more than USD150 million. Mr. Pan has more than 17 years of experience in private equity and investment. He received a BA in Economics from the Management School of Xi' an Jiaotong University in China.

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 Alert Admin 		Finally CEL showing its true colour, all the bird talk only offer 14cts is very " GENEROUS" ! when NAV is 44cts !
Only proof one thing never follow what all this crocodile had said .
CEL do what you said,  don' t make the whole world laught at you bullying & taking advantage of minority shareholders !
Shameless act ! I will not surrender my shares to you unless you honoured what you said, no business ethic at all !
 

shadow      ( Date: 24-May-2018 09:55) Posted:

YL why bother to list here in a depressed market ?
WIth Everbright already controlling almost close to 30% and Fang also 30% , they can alway get it delisted in SGX and go somewhere else to get better value.
NAV 40cts+, PE less then 5.8 times !
Unless another ' depressed' delisting in the pipeline like many others listed co trying to plan , delist in cheap cheap in our depressed market and re-list it somewhere.
Offering peanuts to minorities investors again at cheap depressed price !
But Everbright (Chairman) ever said if YL to be delisted , the will offer generously .. (think all the bird talk only , who will believe !)
In our market is for the BBs to ' slaughter' small players only with so many good examples and SGX does not even protect minority interest , sad market !
 

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 Alert Admin 		Sgx creates a market for china schip to rob poor sinkaporeans. Lol.

How many have been robbed, Raped and plundered?

shadow      ( Date: 03-Apr-2019 20:36) Posted:

Day light robbery again !

NAV 44cts paying 14cts to takeover ? (66% discounted)
What is IFA going to say this time ? " NOT FAIR BUT REASONABLE" again!

CEL is a  big disgrace lah, what they talk is not what they meant read quoted in 30 April 2015    (Business Time Article )!
" James Pan, Ying Li' s non-executive deputy chairman who is responsible for the real estate investment business at Hong Kong-listed China Everbright Limited (CEL), added that while delisting has not come up on the agenda at board meetings, the company " also doesn' t leave out the option if there' s an opportunity" . If the company ever considers delisting from Singapore, " we will give shareholders a generous offer" , he said. "

This is call a generous offer , in my opinion these are no better than a crook stealing from the ordinary people a day light robbery !
Can SGX allow such a thing to take advantage of minority holders interest again & again ! 

sbscap      ( Date: 24-May-2018 11:27) Posted:

Totally agree. I can imagine the usual " wai-yang" (show) of getting an so-called independent financial analysis done and perhaps some newspaper comments of why a buyout at 20c is " good" . A buyout will be announced once there these guys have gathered 70%, together with undisclosed colluding parties. We will get the usual unhappy minority small shareholders making noise and trying to garner support to vote down the daylight robbery privatization, with the misguided thinking that major shareholders control less than 70% and/or some authorities will intervene. Having said these, 13c is a safe level to enter. Just don' t buy too much because this is ultimately an SGX-listed company
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 Alert Admin 		Day light robbery again !

NAV 44cts paying 14cts to takeover ? (66% discounted)
What is IFA going to say this time ? " NOT FAIR BUT REASONABLE" again!

CEL is a  big disgrace lah, what they talk is not what they meant read quoted in 30 April 2015    (Business Time Article )!
" James Pan, Ying Li' s non-executive deputy chairman who is responsible for the real estate investment business at Hong Kong-listed China Everbright Limited (CEL), added that while delisting has not come up on the agenda at board meetings, the company " also doesn' t leave out the option if there' s an opportunity" . If the company ever considers delisting from Singapore, " we will give shareholders a generous offer" , he said. "

This is call a generous offer , in my opinion these are no better than a crook stealing from the ordinary people a day light robbery !
Can SGX allow such a thing to take advantage of minority holders interest again & again ! 

sbscap      ( Date: 24-May-2018 11:27) Posted:

Totally agree. I can imagine the usual " wai-yang" (show) of getting an so-called independent financial analysis done and perhaps some newspaper comments of why a buyout at 20c is " good" . A buyout will be announced once there these guys have gathered 70%, together with undisclosed colluding parties. We will get the usual unhappy minority small shareholders making noise and trying to garner support to vote down the daylight robbery privatization, with the misguided thinking that major shareholders control less than 70% and/or some authorities will intervene. Having said these, 13c is a safe level to enter. Just don' t buy too much because this is ultimately an SGX-listed company.

leeeta      ( Date: 24-May-2018 10:25) Posted:

i think if they do a buyout, it will not be at NAV, much lower like 20-25cts. But that is already a premium compared to current price
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03-Apr-2019 18:16     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Big boss Fang Ming has decided to call it a day and let go of his shares cheap....what a pity.....

nqing87      ( Date: 03-Apr-2019 17:33) Posted:

lol 14 cents when NAV is 40+ cents..

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 Alert Admin 		lol 14 cents when NAV is 40+ cents..

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 Alert Admin 		China Everbright making an offer of S$0.14 per share in cash...

https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-announcements/7ZP1968IA6D7SHEQ/5504d09063aee7f183b500d3361cab74250599f329fb6df3cfa82c748a8ed66b
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 Alert Admin 		any takers on this counter?? look like uptrending.
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 Alert Admin 		going join the club of below 100 soon
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 Alert Admin 		everyday go holland
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 Alert Admin 		must say avoid all china stock? u nv know when go horland?

cowabunga      ( Date: 29-May-2018 22:33) Posted:

Avoid all S chip shares.  They will all bring you to horland.

Observers      ( Date: 14-May-2018 07:01) Posted:

Share price will down
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 Alert Admin 		Avoid all S chip shares.  They will all bring you to horland.

Observers      ( Date: 14-May-2018 07:01) Posted:

Share price will down?

waters      ( Date: 14-May-2018 00:08) Posted:

That' s bad.  Profit is down
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 Alert Admin 		If you guys have listed to me to sell YingLi when it was around 26cts to 28cts, you wouldn' t be stuck until now.
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28-May-2018 20:12     
 
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 Alert Admin 		SGX new regulation on s-chips, what cornerstone investor, SOE all also no use. Close 2 eyes and just short.
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 Alert Admin 		Many professionals, commenters, NUS experts, financial journalist etc have commented on SGX rules is time they should like into tightening it ! People are having enough of their bullshit.   SGX i guess is still sleeping on their job as usual and not listening to the ground ! Until like a " Big Tsunami" wave to change them then all will just wake up ! 

sbscap      ( Date: 24-May-2018 11:59) Posted:

IFA is a con-job. The scholars in SGX should know. The mulit-million dollar salaried CEO should know. SIAS should know. Everyone knows. I repeat, IFA is a con-job. Ok, not all the time but if the companies are paying for the IFA, the reports cannot be truly independent. The solution, as pointed out, is so simple - get SGX or someone independent to appoint an IFA.

shadow      ( Date: 24-May-2018 11:50) Posted:

Many so call IFA will only work in favour of the pay-master (i.e the company paying them doing the IFA report !) This is simply a ' big' loophole !
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 Alert Admin 		IFA is a con-job. The scholars in SGX should know. The mulit-million dollar salaried CEO should know. SIAS should know. Everyone knows. I repeat, IFA is a con-job. Ok, not all the time but if the companies are paying for the IFA, the reports cannot be truly independent. The solution, as pointed out, is so simple - get SGX or someone independent to appoint an IFA.

shadow      ( Date: 24-May-2018 11:50) Posted:

Many so call IFA will only work in favour of the pay-master (i.e the company paying them doing the IFA report !) This is simply a ' big' loophole !
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 Alert Admin 		Many so call IFA will only work in favour of the pay-master (i.e the company paying them doing the IFA report !) This is simply a ' big' loophole !
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 Alert Admin 		IFA is only a ' wayang' show is appointed by co. SGX if truly want to stop all this non-sense once and for all , then SGX can stop simply set the rules that for company applying for delisting, the IFA shall be appointed by SGX to handle the IFA report . Then that will be truly independent rather than the company appointing themselve ! The fact that company cannot say ' no' to appointment by SGX. This will stop all ' wayang' show ! IFA cam then truly assess the situation without fear or favour with a fair assessment not worrying on paymnet as SGX will bill on behaif ! How many co delsiting anyway in SGX? Not many right , so it will be a value added service by SGX to promote public confidence on fairness & transparency !
 
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 Alert Admin 		Totally agree. I can imagine the usual " wai-yang" (show) of getting an so-called independent financial analysis done and perhaps some newspaper comments of why a buyout at 20c is " good" . A buyout will be announced once there these guys have gathered 70%, together with undisclosed colluding parties. We will get the usual unhappy minority small shareholders making noise and trying to garner support to vote down the daylight robbery privatization, with the misguided thinking that major shareholders control less than 70% and/or some authorities will intervene. Having said these, 13c is a safe level to enter. Just don' t buy too much because this is ultimately an SGX-listed company.

leeeta      ( Date: 24-May-2018 10:25) Posted:

i think if they do a buyout, it will not be at NAV, much lower like 20-25cts. But that is already a premium compared to current price.

shadow      ( Date: 24-May-2018 10:23) Posted:

I will always remembered what James Pan (CEL chairman) said backed in 30 April 2015 (Business Time Article )!
" James Pan, Ying Li' s non-executive deputy chairman who is responsible for the real estate investment business at Hong Kong-listed China Everbright Limited (CEL), added that while delisting has not come up on the agenda at board meetings, the company " also doesn' t leave out the option if there' s an opportunity" . If the company ever considers delisting from Singapore, " we will give shareholders a generous offer" , he said. "
http://www.shareinvestor.com/news/news.html?source=sg_si_express& nid=110895

Since CEL get on board of   YL , it has not been good at all YL price kept falling since 50% or more ! Either the strategic partnerships not yielding results bringing synergies, not bringing in value for the benefit of shareholders? or CEL has a motives keeping to the price depressed to keep buying YL at cheap valuation , to raise up its stakes slowly to so far 30%) what' s next ?   Seem like another story of Fincantieri and Vard in buying out ' cheap' story at the making! 


 


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