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Operator81 Senior	28-Apr-2019 09:36        Operator81 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Also remind me of how cash rich Midas was, lol investshare      ( Date: 28-Apr-2019 07:45) Posted: Remind me how Noble shareholders tried to explain and justify their biz model...
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	28-Apr-2019 09:30        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://shxwdc.com/new/xw/1339.html 权 健 之 后 ， 女 大 学 生 深 陷 全 美 世 界 http://shxwdc.com/new/xw/1340.html   Sin_Cos_Tan      ( Date: 28-Apr-2019 09:05) Posted: 一 方 面 ， 全 美 世 界 否 认 有 实 质 开 展 直 销 业 务 ， 另 一 方 面 ， 全 美 世 界 存 在 诸 多 质 疑 甚 至 被 指 涉 嫌 传 销 。 那 么 ， 到 底 是 谁 在 说 谎 ？ http://kknews.cc/zh-sg/news/x8ybmv9.html
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Sin_Cos_Tan Veteran	28-Apr-2019 09:05        Sin_Cos_Tan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	一 方 面 ， 全 美 世 界 否 认 有 实 质 开 展 直 销 业 务 ， 另 一 方 面 ， 全 美 世 界 存 在 诸 多 质 疑 甚 至 被 指 涉 嫌 传 销 。 那 么 ， 到 底 是 谁 在 说 谎 ？ http://kknews.cc/zh-sg/news/x8ybmv9.html
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stockpicker Master	28-Apr-2019 08:38        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There are indeed online advertisement put up by BWL' s franchisees,  you can find them in TaoBao and many oher Chinese online stores.. Unfortunately,  the sale figures of these franchisees are not impressive.    Believe they are for shows only.    If skyjuice is right in his recent article,    BWL and BWL franchisees do not need to put their product for sale online to sell their product   just follow the same model  as the many other Franchising businesses in China like  QuanJian (权 健 ) and Tenesee ( 天 狮 ) https://skyjuiceiswater.blogspot.com/2019/04/best-world-lifestyle-bwl-and-its.html michaeltan      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:25) Posted: The claimed from Bonitas of online sales is not true. BW has already clarified that the Group does not directly conduct any sales transactions in China through online stores or social media, including Taobao. The Products are primarily distributed in China by Franchisees directly to consumers through BWL Lifestyle Centers in China. I guessed any online advertisements posting could be done by franchisees.    like2learn      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:04) Posted: Thanks for sharing the real life experience of BW pdts and their sales process. I also believe they are a proper ethnical co.  But given the competitive landscape, esp in China, if BW is also as " passive" , it doesn' t explain how BW can achieve this scale of revenue increase. We have to also consider the fact BW do not use celebrities to advertise or Dr Secret is not SK-II or some well-known famous brands. Moreover, in lower tier cities, the disposable income is not that high - how many end customers can afford long term use of Dr Secret
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investshare Supreme	28-Apr-2019 07:45        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Remind me how Noble shareholders tried to explain and justify their biz model...
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like2learn Veteran	28-Apr-2019 00:48        like2learn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Does your wife upline have any contact with any of the China BW sellers ? I am just wondering even though we discuss a lot here in SG, ultimately we still do not know the " actual" situation in China other than reported news e.g. BW website wechat views, huge crowd at annual convention etc. For e.g. is dr secret' s popularity among the chinese users as hot as our Orchard Ion/Ngee Ann City LV store queue(yes, not everybody who queue buy but obviously someone will every day), or like Michael Kors handbag which we can see many ladies carry nowadays, meaning it' s really popular. Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 11:07) Posted: I am a small time investor with tens of lots only 😂 . My wife uses and also has a small downline for the product. Attended some of their seminars as well. Invested during the miraculous rise in price last year. Invested because of the positive feel after visiting them a few times. Even discourage my wife to do due to the low commission scheme. But the products had really changed lives of some of her clients. If any case, nobody can deny their product is really good. So, I believe to invest in this company, can't just read reports, need to go down and see, have a feel, try to hear how they introduce u the product(usually after skin analysis or health test), no hardselling, no immediate recruitment. The experience feels even better than going to those over the counter products Starship      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 10:21) Posted: Actually, some of these new accounts look suspiciously like alter egos of HH8888 with all the classic traits.....................
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Sen9999 Member	28-Apr-2019 00:03        Sen9999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I know when I read I feel like you are a 前 辈 kind of guy. Thanks for the 忠 言 , in the market yes, whenever someone win, another loses. Lets hope no one here gets burnt through over confidence in either way the price goes. Operator81      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:41) Posted: Please dun call operator81 the wise. To me, the wise never talk and share freely like me because they know that it is not pleasing to the ears. I learned through the hard way by losing quite a lot money (to me) by looking at rosy financial reports about 20 years ago, that company was one of the top 20 singapore most valuable brand. Sorry to disappoint, I do not have any insider info but i will share with you a piece of important info that i know. I look at the price, 2 months ago it was $3.x and now it is $1.6x, it tell me something. Please dun ask me to predict this or that, if i can do that, i will use it to predict 4d first price number, why do i want to speculate in equity market?   Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 17:36) Posted: Maybe Op the wise, you can share with us something we don't know, to prove your point? If you know the founders or the auditors? 😂 Can share, because given the number of heads here, we could easily beat any analyst. Probably can also share your view that trading will lift on Monday, extension or suspension?
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Sen9999 Member	27-Apr-2019 23:58        Sen9999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	They are generally richer and go for bigger brands. But generally the feedback my wife received is that bigger brands are not solving the problems their users are facing. Not sure if any of your family uses big brands like SKII, Chanel brand. You can verify on this I thought of it for awhile, I think when you buy over the counter products, there's no specific guidance on how to properly use the product. Whereas something different in the system of BW or (maybe other DS), the consultants are very prompt and helpful , changing the formula of usage every week depending on skin condition. I think because every satisfied customers is going to be their mouthpiece. Another reason could be also that those big brands are also selling cosmetics, so if the users are treated on their skin condition who buy their cosmetic range. 😂 michaeltan      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:11) Posted: Singaporean generally are very pretty leh. Don' t need makeup.LOL!   Justice888      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:03) Posted: But strange Sg sales very Low
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michaeltan Master	27-Apr-2019 22:29        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Generally speaking if everybody is buying $1 stick from you, the most you get 6 million sales. But if China people buy from you, may hit more than a billion sales. One city population is equivalent to how many Singapore. Just why they have many franchise shops alone in China.  Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:09) Posted: Yes, I heard it used to be an old auntie brand! 😂 So I went to seminar and really alot of slightly aged ladies. But they are trying to enroll more young blood in(that's why they engaged bloggers, influencers, YouTube ads here). And Singaporeans generally don't like direct selling. The perception I think is changing too as long as the product is showing results. I think if you key in Dr Secret in FB, you will get to see results. Justice888      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:03) Posted: But strange Sg sales very Low
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Berani Elite	27-Apr-2019 22:12        Berani About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	since OCBC restricted this stock. I cannot play liao. everytime need to call broker to buy and sell. troublesome like2learn      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:01) Posted: Bro Berani, miss ur posting in BW leh, the last time u say BB play and will hit $3, it really went past $3. Any prediction now ?   Berani      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:43) Posted: impossible so low la.... 80 cents... craz
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michaeltan Master	27-Apr-2019 22:11        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singaporean generally are very pretty leh. Don' t need makeup.LOL!   Justice888      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:03) Posted: But strange Sg sales very Low Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:48) Posted: I believe one set of product is about SGD600. I think when it comes to facial products for ladies, they will be able to afford somehow. Sales increase is inevitable, as the people who started using will not stop because of the result, then their friends or relative who see drastic improvement in the skin condition(without makeup) will be enrolled in as well. Not forgetting they are also bringing production back to Singapore(Tuas Plant) soon, their profit margin will soon be higher as well.
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Sen9999 Member	27-Apr-2019 22:09        Sen9999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, I heard it used to be an old auntie brand! 😂 So I went to seminar and really alot of slightly aged ladies. But they are trying to enroll more young blood in(that's why they engaged bloggers, influencers, YouTube ads here). And Singaporeans generally don't like direct selling. The perception I think is changing too as long as the product is showing results. I think if you key in Dr Secret in FB, you will get to see results. Justice888      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:03) Posted: But strange Sg sales very Low Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:48) Posted: I believe one set of product is about SGD600. I think when it comes to facial products for ladies, they will be able to afford somehow. Sales increase is inevitable, as the people who started using will not stop because of the result, then their friends or relative who see drastic improvement in the skin condition(without makeup) will be enrolled in as well. Not forgetting they are also bringing production back to Singapore(Tuas Plant) soon, their profit margin will soon be higher as well.
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softdrink Member	27-Apr-2019 22:08        softdrink About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ya, very risky. That is why I said I might consider only. Must depends on the trading day itself on how it runs. michaeltan      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 22:02) Posted: Is intraday short must to cover back on the same day? This could be very high risk isn' t it when many people are doing the same thing and not withstanding that already millions of shares uncovered from short position.  softdrink      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 18:44) Posted: I am currently holding to short position. I believe there is no more scipts in the market now for traders to short. However, depending on the opening price when trading resumes, I will consider to do some intraday trading
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softdrink Member	27-Apr-2019 22:05        softdrink About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We are not gurus for sure. We are here to express our views here. Though some of us are at a different boat, we care to share what are views are and listen to what others have to say. Though we are holding to different positions, I would respect them of their decisions but not yours. You sound like a donkey guru to me. gravity8888      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:48) Posted: Suddenly one short seller attacked.. Most of the SJ guys become guru and talk down the counter.. Interesting... Hahahah
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Justice888 Supreme	27-Apr-2019 22:03        Justice888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But strange Sg sales very Low Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:48) Posted: I believe one set of product is about SGD600. I think when it comes to facial products for ladies, they will be able to afford somehow. Sales increase is inevitable, as the people who started using will not stop because of the result, then their friends or relative who see drastic improvement in the skin condition(without makeup) will be enrolled in as well. Not forgetting they are also bringing production back to Singapore(Tuas Plant) soon, their profit margin will soon be higher as well. like2learn      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:04) Posted: Thanks for sharing the real life experience of BW pdts and their sales process. I also believe they are a proper ethnical co.  But given the competitive landscape, esp in China, if BW is also as " passive" , it doesn' t explain how BW can achieve this scale of revenue increase. We have to also consider the fact BW do not use celebrities to advertise or Dr Secret is not SK-II or some well-known famous brands. Moreover, in lower tier cities, the disposable income is not that high - how many end customers can afford long term use of Dr Secret
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michaeltan Master	27-Apr-2019 22:02        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is intraday short must to cover back on the same day? This could be very high risk isn' t it when many people are doing the same thing and not withstanding that already millions of shares uncovered from short position.  softdrink      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 18:44) Posted: I am currently holding to short position. I believe there is no more scipts in the market now for traders to short. However, depending on the opening price when trading resumes, I will consider to do some intraday trading. michaeltan      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 17:57) Posted: Hope the days come you can take the lead to short big time before Bonitas. LOL! GG to you
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like2learn Veteran	27-Apr-2019 22:01        like2learn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro Berani, miss ur posting in BW leh, the last time u say BB play and will hit $3, it really went past $3. Any prediction now ?   Berani      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:43) Posted: impossible so low la.... 80 cents... crazy like2learn      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 20:48) Posted: I think if drop more than 50% when re-open, will trigger another suspension. If drop to below 80cents, I am guessing BW mgmt may well decide to delist since there have been too many issues recently and they do not need any capital. In this case, going by recent examples, the delisting price may not be high, and may be justifably so because most people do not believe in DS co, so likely to go thru.  Then, all of us faithful longists cannot huat anymore.
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newpattern Senior	27-Apr-2019 21:48        newpattern About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Low 30 cts High $3.30 Average : $1.80 Berani      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:43) Posted: impossible so low la.... 80 cents... crazy like2learn      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 20:48) Posted: I think if drop more than 50% when re-open, will trigger another suspension. If drop to below 80cents, I am guessing BW mgmt may well decide to delist since there have been too many issues recently and they do not need any capital. In this case, going by recent examples, the delisting price may not be high, and may be justifably so because most people do not believe in DS co, so likely to go thru.  Then, all of us faithful longists cannot huat anymore.
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gravity8888 Supreme	27-Apr-2019 21:48        gravity8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Suddenly one short seller attacked.. Most of the SJ guys become guru and talk down the counter.. Interesting... Hahahah
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Sen9999 Member	27-Apr-2019 21:48        Sen9999 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I believe one set of product is about SGD600. I think when it comes to facial products for ladies, they will be able to afford somehow. Sales increase is inevitable, as the people who started using will not stop because of the result, then their friends or relative who see drastic improvement in the skin condition(without makeup) will be enrolled in as well. Not forgetting they are also bringing production back to Singapore(Tuas Plant) soon, their profit margin will soon be higher as well. like2learn      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 21:04) Posted: Thanks for sharing the real life experience of BW pdts and their sales process. I also believe they are a proper ethnical co.  But given the competitive landscape, esp in China, if BW is also as " passive" , it doesn' t explain how BW can achieve this scale of revenue increase. We have to also consider the fact BW do not use celebrities to advertise or Dr Secret is not SK-II or some well-known famous brands. Moreover, in lower tier cities, the disposable income is not that high - how many end customers can afford long term use of Dr Secret ? Sen9999      ( Date: 27-Apr-2019 11:07) Posted: I am a small time investor with tens of lots only 😂 . My wife uses and also has a small downline for the product. Attended some of their seminars as well. Invested during the miraculous rise in price last year. Invested because of the positive feel after visiting them a few times. Even discourage my wife to do due to the low commission scheme. But the products had really changed lives of some of her clients. If any case, nobody can deny their product is really good. So, I believe to invest in this company, can't just read reports, need to go down and see, have a feel, try to hear how they introduce u the product(usually after skin analysis or health test), no hardselling, no immediate recruitment. The experience feels even better than going to those over the counter product
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