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The Only Shipbuilding Blue Chip in SGX!
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pkli899
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25-Nov-2024 17:21
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52m units done in normal trading hours. 207m units done thereafter........wow! Real crazy!!! |
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aeromaro
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25-Nov-2024 17:08
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hmmm price got pushed down to 2.63 on msci day for the msci funds to do the final trade, I still hoping to see 3 and soon so that i can take profit at least half to swap to AI related counters. | ||||
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hypewhy
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25-Nov-2024 17:05
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Wow, you must be so proud of yourself for saying that out loud.
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Smallboat1021
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25-Nov-2024 16:47
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TWIST your short dxck
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hypewhy
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25-Nov-2024 16:28
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Turn and twist story.  U Pariaa can' t make it
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pkli899
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25-Nov-2024 15:49
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Thanks Smallboat1021 for your insightful posts. Very much appreciated. |
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Smallboat1021
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25-Nov-2024 15:48
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SO WHAT? DAY TRADE IDIOT. A 2 PERCENT DROP MAKE YOU SQUIRTING  LIKE NEVER BEFORE? POOR IDIOT. I HOLD IT WITH AN AVERAGE COST OF SGD $0.80. HOPE YOU CAN STILL GROAN 3 MONTH LATER ![]()
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hypewhy
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25-Nov-2024 15:35
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SAMPAM . WHO IS THE BIGGEST IDIOTTTTT NOW!!! SHOUD IT LOUD TO ME NOW!!!!!!!!!
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dontbetray
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25-Nov-2024 15:30
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Euro fund house short the counter as usual which they always do for past months | ||||
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Smallboat1021
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25-Nov-2024 14:44
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I have to point out again that this is a cyclical sector which means everyone (at least every tier-1 shipyards) build the same " commodity" and the only difference is the costs.    It makes no sense to say Rongsheng is a " direct competitor" for YZJ, as all tier-1 yards have similar products offerings, no matter Hyundai/Samsung/Hanwha/CSSC/CSIC/YZJ/New Times/Hengli/Cosco Henvy/China Merchant Heavy, all can built containerships ranging from 3,000TEU~24,000TEU, bulker & tankers ranging from 30,000dwt to 400,000dwt, Gas carriers ranging from 20,000cbm to 200,000cbm. That said, if Rongsheng reborn, it not only become direct competitor of YZJ, but also direct competitor fot all other players. Rongsheng has no difference with any other reborn/newly-added capacity. What we should care about is not " who" it is but " how much" it added to global capacity, it is all about supply and demand. In fact, even in the peak years, Rongsheng' s output only count for 5% of global capacity, while today' s demand is 50% more than  supply. So unless you hear there were 10 Rongsheng reborn, it is not a concern by any means.   
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aeromaro
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25-Nov-2024 13:42
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Thank you for the explanation! There is also a concern of revival of Rongsheng shipyard who is a direct competitor of YZJ and affecting YZJ orders. https://maritime-executive.com/article/msc-mega-order-revives-china-s-rongsheng-shipyard-a-long-defunct-giant
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Smallboat1021
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25-Nov-2024 12:20
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Clarkson newbuilding index hold well at 189-190, rising 50%+ from 125 in 2020, ytd +7%. The flattish movement over the past month purely due to Korean No.2 & No.3 yards, Samsung & Hanwha, urging to fill their 2027 slots, and give discount on LNG carriers - not due to Chinese yards' expansion which most people think. With Samsung & Hanwha fullfilled their 2027 slots, all the markets eyes on 2028 slots and price has no reason to drop. Newbuilding demand are not directly related to shipping rates. And shipping rates are not all in downtrend - containership hold well and owners' wellingness to replace conventional vessels continues / dry bulk & tanker flat but large size vessels (capesize& VLCC) very demanding / LNG& LPG sucks but Trump victory give hopes to mid-long term on US shale oil& gas Capex expansion. Overall, demand side is healthy. On supply side, what we know is that Chinese yards add about 20% of global capacity, which will start operation in 2027. For 2024, global output was only 4% of total existing fleet - in dwt/cgt terms, which can only make up the replacemnet demand (assume 25 years usage and actually its descending because fuel transition) and global shipping demand are growing at a CAGR of 2-3%. That said, shipbuiding capacity need to be 50%-75% more, from 4% now to 6%-7% of global fleet capacity, to meet newbuilding demand. So until we see China adding 50% more capacity, we can not say there are oversupply. Even taking steps back, an oversupply will NOT affect margin SOON. Cause shipyards has secured orders with uptrending price for at least 3 years' full operation (and for YZJ it' s 4 years). No need to worry about any margin trenddown that have no chance to happen before 2029.
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aeromaro
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25-Nov-2024 08:59
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I am a holder of YZJSB since it was at 1.4. Did anyone notice that the shipbuilding price index has not been doing so well for the past 1 month and also shipping price seems in a downtrend and might get worse next year. It feels like soon it will be supply more than demand case and affecting margin. |
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emailpeter
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24-Nov-2024 22:06
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Noted your good article w thanks. Cyclical, and can taper off in due course.
Funds ascribed it PER 9 years, prob reflective of it's peak to trough time span. So we apply 9x (or 10x) to it's Average of peak to bottom profit. Can't just take peak of say SGD1.8b x 9 years. Institutions know that, and added slight "China discount". Tomorrow is MSCI Day 1. Let's anticipate eagerly how it trends along...... |
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dontbetray
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24-Nov-2024 15:56
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The Share Price of This Singapore Blue-Chip Stock is Up More Than 50% Year-to-Date: Can it Continue to Soar?Royston Yang
5 June 2024  5 min read
A growing order bookYZJ&rsquo s growing order book is a clear testament to its ability to clinch contracts. For 2023, the group reported an order win of US$7.05 billion, more than double its target of US$3 billion. Back then, its outstanding order book stood at US$14.5 billion as of 31 December 2023. For its latest business update for the first quarter of 2024 (1Q 2024), YZJ&rsquo s order win momentum has continued. As of 24 May 2024, YZJ has clinched a total of US$3.3 billion of order wins, making up nearly three-quarters of its annual target.  
Its order book now stands at a record US$16.08 billion. YZJ&rsquo s order book trend is impressive, going from US$3.1 billion in 2020 to US$16.1 billion in 1Q 2024, more than five times higher. As the group&rsquo s order book is a leading indicator as to how the business will perform, a larger order book will translate into better prospects. Contracts for new vessel typesThe shipbuilder has been proactive in seeking out business for new vessel types to augment its order book. These new vessels are in high demand and YZJ&rsquo s ability to construct them gives the group an edge over its competition. Back in October 2022, the group clinched its maiden order for two liquefied natural gas (LNG) carriers. The order, placed by a European customer, is scheduled to be delivered between 2025 to 2026. YZJ recognised the changing landscape and the industry&rsquo s increased focus on green shipping and decided to pursue more contracts in this area. In June 2023, the group secured its first order win for methanol dual-fuel containerships. The contract, signed with shipping giant Maersk, involves the construction of six 9,000 TEU methanol dual-fuel containerships to be delivered between 2026 and 2027. Green methanol is reported to reduce nitrogen oxide by around 45% and sulphur oxide by around 8% compared with conventional fuels. Another six units of such containerships were secured in January this year for Ocean Network Express Pte Ltd to be delivered from 2027 onwards. Catalysts for further growthManagement sees healthy demand for oil tankers and gas carriers that should fuel the group&rsquo s continued growth. The containership market should see growth of 9.5% this year as shipping companies undertake fleet renewal. LNG carriers should also see a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 3.6% by 2029, driven by the global energy transition to cleaner fuels along with major industrial coal-to-gas switching in China. Crude oil tankers should also grow at a CAGR of 2.5% ill 2029 with catalysts being fleet renewal and longer sailing distances caused by geopolitical disruptions to shipping routes.  
Finally, the liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) carrier market is projected to grow by 5.5% CAGR by 2029 boosted by strong growth in shale gas production coupled with rising demand for LPG for heating and ventilation. The numerous catalysts outlined above should stand YZJ in good stead to continue clinching contracts and building its order book. Get Smart: Cyclicality is a riskWhile the catalysts above point to better times ahead for YZJ, investors should note that the shipping industry is inherently cyclical. Companies are ordering new ships now because of fleet renewal and strong demand that exceeds supply. With new ships delivered, there is a risk that the cycle could turn and that supply will exceed demand. Should this happen, ship values will decline and shipowners may default, thus affecting YZJ&rsquo s order-clinching ability and the collectability of debts. A major economic or geopolitical event may also depress demand and result in shipping companies delaying new builds, thus posing another risk to YZJ. Barring the above risks, prospects look bright for the group to continue growing its order book.  
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hypewhy
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24-Nov-2024 11:22
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BB or sydnicate, l believe u all watch this thread closely. you all can make use this sampan to achieve ur goal
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Smallboat1021
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24-Nov-2024 00:41
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how possible idiot? Every share sold means one share bought, that is the basics of stock markets. How could outflow more than inflow? More outflow to where? To your dream?
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hypewhy
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24-Nov-2024 00:33
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No la. The outflow is more than inflow. More seller than buyer. Anyhow misled
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dontbetray
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23-Nov-2024 11:04
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Ya in term of   volume.  My bad I didn' t elaborate.  What I mean there more bb seller than bb buyer.   
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MrBear12
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23-Nov-2024 09:14
Yells: "Cast all our anxieties on Jesus for He cares for us" |
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No, equal buyer seller.
Price agreed getting higher |
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