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FreedomAngelz
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04-Nov-2016 11:45
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Still hope they can win the tender for the desalination plant in Singapore......heard Johor is also considering to build one to tackle the water issues. |
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samudra
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04-Nov-2016 11:41
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hyflux is fighting an uphill battle. Hyflux innovative centre already sold. |
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ronleech
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04-Nov-2016 10:32
Yells: "Believe in yourself. Ride with the waves......" |
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prepared for a gap up above 50cts soon |
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jeremyow
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03-Nov-2016 19:44
Yells: "Passionate business investor" |
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I did a rough calculation on the total coupon interest that Hyflux need to pay for both the cumulative preference shares (CPS) and perpetual capital securities (PCS) and it is around $70.5m each year. Hyflux currently has around $165.5m of cash and cash equivalents. It is still currently having negative operational cashflows and negative free cashflows. So at the rate it is going, if it does not generate positive cashflows any more for the next two years, the $165.5m cash and cash equivalents could last the company around slightly more than 2 years. This is assuming that the coupon interests on the CPS and PCS are only paid by the existing cash and cash equivalents and by no other means such as sale of assets or any other investments to raise cash, or another capital raising exercise two years down the road. Of course, this is only one consideration here for investors. Pls DYODD as there maybe positive points about Hyflux to consider as well to determine whether it can reverse its trend of negative operational and free cashflows going forward.
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Qanghoo
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03-Nov-2016 19:43
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Oh by the way, if u all have read the PR, some wld probably have died of heart attack already cos, despite being buried under the huge mountain of debt, this OL is saying she' s gonna chiong some more ..... tender for more projects ard thw world. How? Better don' t get vested hor?
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Qanghoo
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03-Nov-2016 19:30
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Let' s see if the OL circus collapses within the next yr or two under a seemingly increasing mountain of debt n financial costs.
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investshare
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03-Nov-2016 18:58
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total cash and equivalent $231m.
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FreedomAngelz
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03-Nov-2016 18:49
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nope
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samudra
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03-Nov-2016 18:32
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is the net profit enough to pay the coupon rate for the 0ne billion preference shares ?
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Qanghoo
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03-Nov-2016 18:27
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Begs the qn - does the mkt know? Who says the mkt is efficient n is always right? I' vve never, n will never, subscribe to such a stupid n archaic notion. To me, so many so called analyst rpts on this stock have all been flawed n were done either with very poor understanding of the stock or out of mischief or purely sensationalised to sell. |
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FreedomAngelz
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03-Nov-2016 18:20
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hmm...hope their Egypt project goes smoothly...that region is pretty volatile |
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sgng123
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03-Nov-2016 17:31
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21mil net profit 234% increase yoy |
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jeremyow
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31-Oct-2016 11:17
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Looking at Hyflux' s recent past financial performance over the decade, it was not as impressive as its early years of growth when it first started out and was public listed. The revenue and operating income seems to have stagnated for the past six years. And for most of the years over the past decade, its operational cashflows and free cashflows are negative. Hyflux seems to be burning more cash (cash out-flows) than generating cash in-flows from its businesses operations. On the same note, its return on equity (ROE) has decreased over the past decade from the higher range of 10% to 20 plus % to now even touching below 5%. This means that an investor is not getting a high returns on his invested equity if the company still do not pick up for the future as the ROE of Hyflux shows that it is not as profitable as an investment as before during its heydays. Of course, the drop in ROE is also due to Hyflux issuing its 6% cumulative preference shares (CPS) in 2011. And in 2016 this year, it also issued another 6% perpeptual capital securities. These two equity debts have and/or will certainly decrease the ROE for the rest of the shareholders as what the ROEs over the past 6 years since 2011 when the first CPS has been issued have shown. All these forms of equity debts will drain out cash from Hyflux at their 6% rates of coupon payments. Of course, if raising such equity debts can help Hyflux to put the received capital to good use in improving its businesses towards better profitability (at least the business improvements from using these raised capital sum must generate more cash than the cash out-flows from these two equity debts to be profitable), then it is well worth the decision to raise capital this way. Then, we should hope to see the ROE of Hyflux improving over the future years. However, if the capital raised still does not improve Hyflux' s business profitability going forward, then these equity debts will continue to drain further cash out from the company in the years ahead esp. for the 6% perpeptual capital securities which has no redeemeble date and will continue to drain cash out if Hyflux does not redeem this equity debt. Then, an investor will continue to receive a low ROE (perhaps below 5%) on his investment in Hyflux going forward. |
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Qanghoo
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31-Oct-2016 10:12
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Leaking again !!!!!
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Qanghoo
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28-Oct-2016 09:37
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See how stocks are manipulated. First, inject all the fear. Then buy up low n pump up. I always ask - where' s the real problem with debt, etc? Still, do thread with care. Short term performance' s gonna be volatile. For one thing, take a warning from the SCI result. Spore utility mkt is very challenging at the present time, according to SCI' s press release last evening. This is one area that' s gonna have a -ve impact on Hyflux too. But if oil remains supported at 50-60 USD over the next yr or so, it' d like mitigate the problem for Hyflux, SCI n other utility players in spore.
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Tenjin
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28-Oct-2016 09:24
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Announcement on the Perps today The board of Directors of Hyflux Ltd (&ldquo Issuer&rdquo ) wishes to announce that distribution shall be payable on the Securities in arrears on 27 November 2016, being the First Distribution Payment Date, details of which are as follows: Distribution Period: From (and including) the Issue Date of 27 May 2016 to (but excluding) 27 November 2016 Number of days: 184 days Distribution Rate: 6% per annum Calculation of total distribution: SGD 500m x 6% x 184/365 Total distribution amount payable: SGD 15,123,287.67 Record date: 21 November 2016 Distribution Payment Date: 28 November 2016 (as 27 November 2016 is a non-business day) |
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FATABA
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27-Oct-2016 15:57
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Hope they win ....desal projects would be profitable ....and Hyfux wld close half way ...if they win it will be assure of support . Our major water source ...lol
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Qanghoo
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27-Oct-2016 15:54
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Suddenly so bullish. Why? Pump n dump again? Or some +ve news relating to new dboo desalination plant? But wldn' that lead to more debt n scare the sh*t out of everyone? |
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FATABA
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27-Oct-2016 14:42
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U are right ....this amount of cash would come in very handy at this time.....even if breakeven ....its much better than taking a loan.
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FreedomAngelz
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27-Oct-2016 14:15
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Need it to rebound back to 0.60 |
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