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lingua101 Veteran	19-May-2020 14:12        lingua101 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	will theritcally the SIA share will drop to $3 after the rights been exercised? furnaces      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:57) Posted: Technically can. SBL to short SIA shares at $3.75 then buy rights at $0.60, exercise by paying $3.  After deducting brokerage and cost of borrowing SIA shares. Probably got some kopi money left. On theory is risk free, but who knows. DLC SIA 5x short also can go suspended when SIA trend is down. churnw      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:51) Posted: Will people buy the rights at 0.6 and plus $ 3 is $3.60 Then I sell mother share at 3.75 . Can profit 0.15 which is $150
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uiop1223 Supreme	19-May-2020 14:11        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	🤔 for avoidance of doubt, i meant to say that after the rights exercise ended, holders of the rights but never exercise (ie pay $3) , temesek will fork out $3 for each rights not exercised So temesak need not go and buy rights in the mkt now Are we on same page? westpoison      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:56) Posted: Temasek will take in all rights that are not bought at the end of the day.  uiop1223      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:55) Posted: Exactly. How many times must i repeat that there is no need for Temsaek to buy Rights in open mkt. Do u guys got problem understanding how rights issuance work?
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uiop1223 Supreme	19-May-2020 14:06        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1) First, need to check with broker if this can be done. For me, when i short using SBL, i need to inform my broker when i sell and when i cover back. He will do backend processing. The lending pool is administered by the brokerage firm. Im not sure if u can cover back (ie buyback) by using shares that are converted via rights issue that is newly assigned shares. Like for me, when i short via SBL through poems, i need to buy back through poems to return the shares. I cannot use other broker firms to return because i borrowed from POEMS. I strongly advise asking your broker if the below plan is feasible. Unless your intention is to short and cover back + buy the rights and exercise the rights.. which, go through so many problem and theres risk of loss also (see pt 2 below) 2) Second, whether make money or not depends on the day when rights shares start to trade together with mothershares. What if price falls to $3.5 or $3.2? U are making a loss. I see too many complications.. furnaces      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:57) Posted: Technically can. SBL to short SIA shares at $3.75 then buy rights at $0.60, exercise by paying $3.  After deducting brokerage and cost of borrowing SIA shares. Probably got some kopi money left. On theory is risk free, but who knows. DLC SIA 5x short also can go suspended when SIA trend is down. churnw      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:51) Posted: Will people buy the rights at 0.6 and plus $ 3 is $3.60 Then I sell mother share at 3.75 . Can profit 0.15 which is $150
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churnw Elite	19-May-2020 14:02        churnw About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If the BB short the rights , end of the day he need to buy back ...
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newbieliu Elite	19-May-2020 13:59        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah sound like u have backing to support u lol I loaded at 60.5 cents again Bennytan23      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:44) Posted: Agree!!  T is gonna wipe out the excess rights and then make the shares bounce back to above $4.  Just to send a point.. ' when the big brother(T) comes in to play.. follow me'   😂 newbieliu      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:38) Posted: LOL too high? T will come in to support if it is too low lol Those orignal holders will be bleeding nowfrom the high of 9-11 dollars to now 3.75 already more than 100% dro
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furnaces Veteran	19-May-2020 13:57        furnaces About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Technically can. SBL to short SIA shares at $3.75 then buy rights at $0.60, exercise by paying $3.  After deducting brokerage and cost of borrowing SIA shares. Probably got some kopi money left. On theory is risk free, but who knows. DLC SIA 5x short also can go suspended when SIA trend is down. churnw      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:51) Posted: Will people buy the rights at 0.6 and plus $ 3 is $3.60 Then I sell mother share at 3.75 . Can profit 0.15 which is $150
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xxboaxx Member	19-May-2020 13:56        xxboaxx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	lol u all can slowly dream if T will support the current price. they waiting to buy the excess rights at 3 dollar. The more people lost confidence in SIA, the merrier.  3 dollar is a fair value for SIA.  you buy the current price, it is not even 2x when reach pre-covid level.
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westpoison Veteran	19-May-2020 13:56        westpoison About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Temasek will take in all rights that are not bought at the end of the day.  uiop1223      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:55) Posted: Exactly. How many times must i repeat that there is no need for Temsaek to buy Rights in open mkt. Do u guys got problem understanding how rights issuance work? NT1825      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:52) Posted: But how to know if T has bought huge amounts of SIA R shares. If the amount is small for T, not worth to push up to. 4.00. The whole idea is to get the funds into SIA - the job has been accomplised with 100% participation. Going forward it is up to SIA and the market.
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uiop1223 Supreme	19-May-2020 13:55        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Exactly. How many times must i repeat that there is no need for Temsaek to buy Rights in open mkt. Do u guys got problem understanding how rights issuance work? NT1825      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:52) Posted: But how to know if T has bought huge amounts of SIA R shares. If the amount is small for T, not worth to push up to. 4.00. The whole idea is to get the funds into SIA - the job has been accomplised with 100% participation. Going forward it is up to SIA and the market.
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NT1825 Master	19-May-2020 13:52        NT1825 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But how to know if T has bought huge amounts of SIA R shares. If the amount is small for T, not worth to push up to. 4.00. The whole idea is to get the funds into SIA - the job has been accomplised with 100% participation. Going forward it is up to SIA and the market.
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churnw Elite	19-May-2020 13:51        churnw About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will people buy the rights at 0.6 and plus $ 3 is $3.60 Then I sell mother share at 3.75 . Can profit 0.15 which is $150
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Bennytan23 Senior	19-May-2020 13:44        Bennytan23 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree!!  T is gonna wipe out the excess rights and then make the shares bounce back to above $4.  Just to send a point.. ' when the big brother(T) comes in to play.. follow me'   😂 newbieliu      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:38) Posted: LOL too high? T will come in to support if it is too low lol Those orignal holders will be bleeding nowfrom the high of 9-11 dollars to now 3.75 already more than 100% drop xxboaxx      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:32) Posted: the current price is too high consider the share dilution. most US airlines are trading at 60-70% drop from ATH.
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Oldman278 Senior	19-May-2020 13:43        Oldman278 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Must have Con fident in our zeng hu.. they are the best in the world.. jz like SIA.. newbieliu      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:38) Posted: LOL too high? T will come in to support if it is too low lol Those orignal holders will be bleeding nowfrom the high of 9-11 dollars to now 3.75 already more than 100% drop xxboaxx      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:32) Posted: the current price is too high consider the share dilution. most US airlines are trading at 60-70% drop from ATH.
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newbieliu Elite	19-May-2020 13:38        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	LOL too high? T will come in to support if it is too low lol Those orignal holders will be bleeding nowfrom the high of 9-11 dollars to now 3.75 already more than 100% drop xxboaxx      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:32) Posted: the current price is too high consider the share dilution. most US airlines are trading at 60-70% drop from ATH.    stanleytay      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:28) Posted: I dont see why temasek should break below 3.7. I think some of the selling are probably naked shorts.
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Oldman278 Senior	19-May-2020 13:37        Oldman278 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cannot compare. This is SIA.. we r the best of the best.... muahahaha xxboaxx      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:32) Posted: the current price is too high consider the share dilution. most US airlines are trading at 60-70% drop from ATH.    stanleytay      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:28) Posted: I dont see why temasek should break below 3.7. I think some of the selling are probably naked shorts.
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xxboaxx Member	19-May-2020 13:32        xxboaxx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the current price is too high consider the share dilution. most US airlines are trading at 60-70% drop from ATH.    stanleytay      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:28) Posted: I dont see why temasek should break below 3.7. I think some of the selling are probably naked shorts.
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stanleytay Master	19-May-2020 13:28        stanleytay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I dont see why temasek should break below 3.7. I think some of the selling are probably naked shorts.
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newbieliu Elite	19-May-2020 13:26        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Did u guys check if shorting using cfd can buy back right shares to return after its conversion ? Mmm is this a loop hole lol michaeltan      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:23) Posted: Some mathermatics culculation. Mother share $3.75 Right Share $0.61 Exercise R Share $3.00 Different $3.75 - 3.61 = $0.14 of savings 3.73% It is better to sell mother share and buy back the right share. if the right share drop further, I am right to say mother share price will drop futher and you make some gain as you have souhgt earlier at higher price. If the mother share price is up then exercise to purchase the rights. Bennytan23      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:07) Posted: Yeah.. expecting bumper crops for SIA shares.  buying below $4 is a good discount. Lets hope it drops to 3.20-3.50 on thurs? Owning the shares at this price will be a ' LEGEND'   even if delist, they will compensate us above $4/share.  *not for contra/intra trade
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newbieliu Elite	19-May-2020 13:24        newbieliu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Those who wanna convert lo or those who wanna cover lol . Lot of selling at 71 at opening AhLiang      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:09) Posted: Who bought early in the morning? Left with 2.5 days to cut loss. michaeltan      ( Date: 19-May-2020 10:59) Posted: Morning session is already more than 20 million shares. Not a good sign cause not sure whether they are genuine takers
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michaeltan Master	19-May-2020 13:23        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Some mathermatics culculation. Mother share $3.75 Right Share $0.61 Exercise R Share $3.00 Different $3.75 - 3.61 = $0.14 of savings 3.73% It is better to sell mother share and buy back the right share. if the right share drop further, I am right to say mother share price will drop futher and you make some gain as you have souhgt earlier at higher price. If the mother share price is up then exercise to purchase the rights. Bennytan23      ( Date: 19-May-2020 13:07) Posted: Yeah.. expecting bumper crops for SIA shares.  buying below $4 is a good discount. Lets hope it drops to 3.20-3.50 on thurs? Owning the shares at this price will be a ' LEGEND'   even if delist, they will compensate us above $4/share.  *not for contra/intra trader danger      ( Date: 19-May-2020 08:54) Posted: SKY HIGH ? Like 1st day after XR ...  shoot $5 ? Shares of Singapore Airlines (SIA) are now an opportunity to accumulate, according to CGS-CIMB Research The brokerage made its recommendation in view that much of the negative news have already been priced in. As such, CGS-CIMB has upgraded the stock to an  ADD rating from  HOLD previously, and raised its target price to $4.60 from $4.45 previously
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