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Qanghoo Supreme	01-Apr-2019 10:56        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I never speculated abt an impending RI.  Edward2      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 10:51) Posted: U can call starhub Ceo and ask him right do issue .if he don't want to do rights issue so don't spread rumour right issue . So yr right issue absurb first thing he will do 0 dividend like semborp. But still got profit every year how to do zero divdiend
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Edward2 Senior	01-Apr-2019 10:51        Edward2 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U can call starhub Ceo and ask him right do issue .if he don't want to do rights issue so don't spread rumour right issue . So yr right issue absurb first thing he will do 0 dividend like semborp. But still got profit every year how to do zero divdiend
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Qanghoo Supreme	01-Apr-2019 10:41        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Last ur, earn 12c, paid 16c.  What maths was that.  To be fair, they are guiding for a reduced div (9c?).  Even that wld cost whopping 155 mil.  Now, supposed they pay only 1c, they wld be retaining 130+ mil for capex.  Eventually, debt n cost of funds wld be reduced n financial health be restored to a more respectable level.  I shan' t add on to the debate on RI.  Belteshazzar      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 10:30) Posted: Last year 2018 Dividend paid to owners of the Company 276.9m Perpetual capital securities distribution paid 7.9m Interest paid 30.6m All these be reduced
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Belteshazzar Master	01-Apr-2019 10:33        Belteshazzar About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Pls take note that they need to depreciate all the cable assets in the coming quarters, so I believe next q results will not be fantastic
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Belteshazzar Master	01-Apr-2019 10:30        Belteshazzar About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Last year 2018 Dividend paid to owners of the Company 276.9m Perpetual capital securities distribution paid 7.9m Interest paid 30.6m All these be reduced
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lukewong82 Master	01-Apr-2019 07:18        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	pardon me? spread rumours? I just guessing/speculating based on starhub current situation, I NEVER say starhub is going to have right issues, I just making a guess.. Yes.. perhaps they may further reduce the dividend but cannot rule out a rights issue i FEEL.   Edward2      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 06:51) Posted: So don't spread false rumour right issue most give zero dividend like semborp can save 200mil dividend annually. lukewong82      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 03:10) Posted: Unless they reduce dividend to zero, if not how are they going to raise funds needed for capex??? Borrow more $$$??? issuing more  bonds? pref shares like what Hyflux did?  wow like tat the debt will balloon... So i think the most logical is to get shareholders to help out by rights issue. Compared to Hyflux, i think ppl more willing to part with their $$$ to invest more $$  into starhub?
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Edward2 Senior	01-Apr-2019 06:51        Edward2 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So don't spread false rumour right issue most give zero dividend like semborp can save 200mil dividend annually. lukewong82      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 03:10) Posted: Unless they reduce dividend to zero, if not how are they going to raise funds needed for capex??? Borrow more $$$??? issuing more  bonds? pref shares like what Hyflux did?  wow like tat the debt will balloon... So i think the most logical is to get shareholders to help out by rights issue. Compared to Hyflux, i think ppl more willing to part with their $$$ to invest more $$  into starhub?   Qanghoo      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 00:06) Posted: Just reduce div will stop burning cash liao.  They are in effect funding div thru' debt.  Earn 200 mil, paid out nearly 300 mil in div.  How sustainable is this?  Even at 9c div, they' ll still burn cash if substantial $$$ is needed for capex.  Then issue rights?  Aren' t they then asking shareholders for $$$ back after giving them fat div?  Where will it all end?  Just look at Valuetronics.  Maintain strict financial discipline.  Don' t pay div beyond what is realistically possible.  Debt free.
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lukewong82 Master	01-Apr-2019 03:10        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unless they reduce dividend to zero, if not how are they going to raise funds needed for capex??? Borrow more $$$??? issuing more  bonds? pref shares like what Hyflux did?  wow like tat the debt will balloon... So i think the most logical is to get shareholders to help out by rights issue. Compared to Hyflux, i think ppl more willing to part with their $$$ to invest more $$  into starhub?   Qanghoo      ( Date: 01-Apr-2019 00:06) Posted: Just reduce div will stop burning cash liao.  They are in effect funding div thru' debt.  Earn 200 mil, paid out nearly 300 mil in div.  How sustainable is this?  Even at 9c div, they' ll still burn cash if substantial $$$ is needed for capex.  Then issue rights?  Aren' t they then asking shareholders for $$$ back after giving them fat div?  Where will it all end?  Just look at Valuetronics.  Maintain strict financial discipline.  Don' t pay div beyond what is realistically possible.  Debt free.  lukewong82      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 23:02) Posted: Actually right issues good wat. can reduce the debts.. strengthen the financial footing
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Qanghoo Supreme	01-Apr-2019 00:06        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just reduce div will stop burning cash liao.  They are in effect funding div thru' debt.  Earn 200 mil, paid out nearly 300 mil in div.  How sustainable is this?  Even at 9c div, they' ll still burn cash if substantial $$$ is needed for capex.  Then issue rights?  Aren' t they then asking shareholders for $$$ back after giving them fat div?  Where will it all end?  Just look at Valuetronics.  Maintain strict financial discipline.  Don' t pay div beyond what is realistically possible.  Debt free.  lukewong82      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 23:02) Posted: Actually right issues good wat. can reduce the debts.. strengthen the financial footings Edward2      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 22:52) Posted: Where got right issue .u two can issue right for starhub since so eager .sembcorp bleeding so huge also no right issue while starhub 200mil profit
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lukewong82 Master	31-Mar-2019 23:02        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Actually right issues good wat. can reduce the debts.. strengthen the financial footings Edward2      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 22:52) Posted: Where got right issue .u two can issue right for starhub since so eager .sembcorp bleeding so huge also no right issue while starhub 200mil profit. lukewong82      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 18:14) Posted: Yes..  i was thinking a rights issue is on the card. Usually share price will adjust towards the rights issue price. So if right issues is price at $1.20, then share price will adjust down to $1.20.. depending on the issue price. I think all depends on the coming quarter results. If the results show further bleeding of cash, i think rights issue is highly likel
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Edward2 Senior	31-Mar-2019 22:52        Edward2 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Where got right issue .u two can issue right for starhub since so eager .sembcorp bleeding so huge also no right issue while starhub 200mil profit. lukewong82      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 18:14) Posted: Yes..  i was thinking a rights issue is on the card. Usually share price will adjust towards the rights issue price. So if right issues is price at $1.20, then share price will adjust down to $1.20.. depending on the issue price. I think all depends on the coming quarter results. If the results show further bleeding of cash, i think rights issue is highly likely Belteshazzar      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 17:56) Posted: Kp is a guy does not believe in debt , like equity financing. So 1 :2 right issue @ 1.20 not unlikely. U get abt 1038m, clear 50% of the debt, leftovers for dividend, spectrum n others... If that really happened, u interested u can get even cheaper price...
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batambird Member	31-Mar-2019 19:29        batambird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Some were saying impossible...now we are 1.4x.... downside is always unlimited in our STI batambird      ( Date: 11-Mar-2019 14:19) Posted: 1.4 coming soon as per my previous post 2 weeks ago. By this year can see 1$ or below.
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lukewong82 Master	31-Mar-2019 18:14        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes..  i was thinking a rights issue is on the card. Usually share price will adjust towards the rights issue price. So if right issues is price at $1.20, then share price will adjust down to $1.20.. depending on the issue price. I think all depends on the coming quarter results. If the results show further bleeding of cash, i think rights issue is highly likely Belteshazzar      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 17:56) Posted: Kp is a guy does not believe in debt , like equity financing. So 1 :2 right issue @ 1.20 not unlikely. U get abt 1038m, clear 50% of the debt, leftovers for dividend, spectrum n others... If that really happened, u interested u can get even cheaper price...
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Belteshazzar Master	31-Mar-2019 17:56        Belteshazzar About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Kp is a guy does not believe in debt , like equity financing. So 1 :2 right issue @ 1.20 not unlikely. U get abt 1038m, clear 50% of the debt, leftovers for dividend, spectrum n others... If that really happened, u interested u can get even cheaper price...
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investshare Supreme	31-Mar-2019 17:36        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sound like Hyflux? Belteshazzar      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 15:12) Posted: Before deciding to buy , find ans to how they r going to get the $$$ for dividend 155.7m, 282 for spectrum n others outstanding capital expenditure . The resulting net cash generated was a deficit of S$83.8 million in 4Q2018 and deficit of S$179.9 million in the full year, leading to a lower cash and cash equivalents balance (excluding restricted cash) of S$165.3 million. Capital expenditure commitments As of 31 December 2018, the Group?s total outstanding capital expenditure commitments amounted to S$527.1 million, including the outstanding commitments for 4G spectrum rights of S$282.0 million. GROUP UNSECURED BORROWINGS The Group?s unsecured borrowings was higher by S$50.9 million at S$1,028.4 million as of 31 December 2018. On account of a lower cash and cash equivalent balance, net debt was S$230.2 million higher at S$862.4 million as of 31 December 2018 compared to S$632.3 million as of 31 December 2017. As a ratio of the past 12 months? EBITDA, the Group?s net debt was higher at 1.52 times as of 31 December 2018, up from 0.98 times as of 31 December 2017. 31 Dec 1831 Dec 17Unsecured borrowingsS$mS$mAmount repayable in one year or lessBank loans50.1 120.0 50.1 120.0 Amount repayable after one yearBank loans458.4 337.5 Medium term notes520.0 520.0 978.4 857.5 Total1,028.4 977.5
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lukewong82 Master	31-Mar-2019 17:25        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	possibility of a rights issue??? Belteshazzar      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 15:12) Posted: Before deciding to buy , find ans to how they r going to get the $$$ for dividend 155.7m, 282 for spectrum n others outstanding capital expenditure . The resulting net cash generated was a deficit of S$83.8 million in 4Q2018 and deficit of S$179.9 million in the full year, leading to a lower cash and cash equivalents balance (excluding restricted cash) of S$165.3 million. Capital expenditure commitments As of 31 December 2018, the Group?s total outstanding capital expenditure commitments amounted to S$527.1 million, including the outstanding commitments for 4G spectrum rights of S$282.0 million. GROUP UNSECURED BORROWINGS The Group?s unsecured borrowings was higher by S$50.9 million at S$1,028.4 million as of 31 December 2018. On account of a lower cash and cash equivalent balance, net debt was S$230.2 million higher at S$862.4 million as of 31 December 2018 compared to S$632.3 million as of 31 December 2017. As a ratio of the past 12 months? EBITDA, the Group?s net debt was higher at 1.52 times as of 31 December 2018, up from 0.98 times as of 31 December 2017. 31 Dec 1831 Dec 17Unsecured borrowingsS$mS$mAmount repayable in one year or lessBank loans50.1 120.0 50.1 120.0 Amount repayable after one yearBank loans458.4 337.5 Medium term notes520.0 520.0 978.4 857.5 Total1,028.4 977.5
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Belteshazzar Master	31-Mar-2019 15:12        Belteshazzar About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Before deciding to buy , find ans to how they r going to get the $$$ for dividend 155.7m, 282 for spectrum n others outstanding capital expenditure . The resulting net cash generated was a deficit of S$83.8 million in 4Q2018 and deficit of S$179.9 million in the full year, leading to a lower cash and cash equivalents balance (excluding restricted cash) of S$165.3 million. Capital expenditure commitments As of 31 December 2018, the Group?s total outstanding capital expenditure commitments amounted to S$527.1 million, including the outstanding commitments for 4G spectrum rights of S$282.0 million. GROUP UNSECURED BORROWINGS The Group?s unsecured borrowings was higher by S$50.9 million at S$1,028.4 million as of 31 December 2018. On account of a lower cash and cash equivalent balance, net debt was S$230.2 million higher at S$862.4 million as of 31 December 2018 compared to S$632.3 million as of 31 December 2017. As a ratio of the past 12 months? EBITDA, the Group?s net debt was higher at 1.52 times as of 31 December 2018, up from 0.98 times as of 31 December 2017. 31 Dec 1831 Dec 17Unsecured borrowingsS$mS$mAmount repayable in one year or lessBank loans50.1 120.0 50.1 120.0 Amount repayable after one yearBank loans458.4 337.5 Medium term notes520.0 520.0 978.4 857.5 Total1,028.4 977.5
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lukewong82 Master	31-Mar-2019 11:11        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ya haha agree with u...becos when it dropped to $1.20,   I will  start to fear it may continue to drop to $1 etc... Hmm.. think must see the next quarter results? by then too late liao rt? if the result is good the next day will chiong liao. alfckf      ( Date: 31-Mar-2019 08:49) Posted: By the time it drop to $1.20, you will say buy only 80 cents.  All men are greedy one.
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alfckf Member	31-Mar-2019 08:49        alfckf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	By the time it drop to $1.20, you will say buy only 80 cents.  All men are greedy one.
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lukewong82 Master	30-Mar-2019 10:49        lukewong82 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hmm... can explain what u meant by M1 will be much bigger??? I' m waiting for starhub to drop to $1.20+ and then load up... have to depend on the next financial report..   JoleenChan      ( Date: 29-Mar-2019 14:03) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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