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uiop1223 Supreme	01-Apr-2020 22:32        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
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stocknewbie Member	01-Apr-2020 22:14        stocknewbie About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hello all Do anyone know if we can subscribe now? Or no date has been set yet? Thanks
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Justice888 Supreme	01-Apr-2020 20:32        Justice888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think Temasek will not interfere with the share price ... lighter87      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:25) Posted: That's why dunno if termasek will suddenly chut this stunt or not lol. uiop1223      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:23) Posted: But if temasek is buying, it shld be disclose in filing? Direct or deemed interest need to file in sgx right? So far, i didnt see any?
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lighter87 Master	01-Apr-2020 20:25        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That's why dunno if termasek will suddenly chut this stunt or not lol. uiop1223      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:23) Posted: But if temasek is buying, it shld be disclose in filing? Direct or deemed interest need to file in sgx right? So far, i didnt see any?
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uiop1223 Supreme	01-Apr-2020 20:23        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But if temasek is buying, it shld be disclose in filing? Direct or deemed interest need to file in sgx right? So far, i didnt see any?
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lighter87 Master	01-Apr-2020 20:21        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now is they want to let the price slide so lesser people will subscribe the rights then they eat the remainder or they push up the price so more people subscribe rights then they pay lesser to take over the remaining rights. Justice888      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:12) Posted: Price lower is better ? Temasek can pay lesser to have a bigger share of co? If u are a normal investor ? Would u prefer to have the rights at a higher share price or lower share price ,? lighter87      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:09) Posted: Do you think termasek will push up to maintain a certain price so more people will subscribe the rights or they just Don't care already, whoever don't want to subscribe just let them dilut
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Justice888 Supreme	01-Apr-2020 20:12        Justice888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Price lower is better ? Temasek can pay lesser to have a bigger share of co? If u are a normal investor ? Would u prefer to have the rights at a higher share price or lower share price ,? lighter87      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:09) Posted: Do you think termasek will push up to maintain a certain price so more people will subscribe the rights or they just Don't care already, whoever don't want to subscribe just let them dilute uiop1223      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:04) Posted: Faster leh. Wanna close my positions
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lighter87 Master	01-Apr-2020 20:09        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do you think termasek will push up to maintain a certain price so more people will subscribe the rights or they just Don't care already, whoever don't want to subscribe just let them dilute uiop1223      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 20:04) Posted: Faster leh. Wanna close my positions
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uiop1223 Supreme	01-Apr-2020 20:04        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Faster leh. Wanna close my positions
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Potato Master	01-Apr-2020 19:40        Potato About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	... all the master so quiet today. waiting for the pricing to drop further huh? Shifu8888      ( Date: 01-Apr-2020 10:26) Posted: Instead of EPS, it will be LPS. With massive shares denomination, the anticipated massive loss (including mark to market losses) will be spread. $4.50 post rights will be good entry price. My views. like2learn      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 20:07) Posted: Issued shares : 1,185,128,325        VS      up to 1,777,692,487 Rights Shares => dilution > 50%, i.e. EPS now ard $0.58 => EPS will be < $0.3 assuming equal financial performance, correct ? still haven' t count MCB rights conversion yet, if it happens. If we look at the EPS trend over the years,it' s very difficult to estimate EPS : https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/sg/about-us/information-for-investors/financial-highlights/ so, what is the fair value - how to calculate ? this exercise is very chim.
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Shifu8888 Supreme	01-Apr-2020 10:26        Shifu8888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Instead of EPS, it will be LPS. With massive shares denomination, the anticipated massive loss (including mark to market losses) will be spread. $4.50 post rights will be good entry price. My views. like2learn      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 20:07) Posted: Issued shares : 1,185,128,325        VS      up to 1,777,692,487 Rights Shares => dilution > 50%, i.e. EPS now ard $0.58 => EPS will be < $0.3 assuming equal financial performance, correct ? still haven' t count MCB rights conversion yet, if it happens. If we look at the EPS trend over the years,it' s very difficult to estimate EPS : https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/sg/about-us/information-for-investors/financial-highlights/ so, what is the fair value - how to calculate ? this exercise is very chim.
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Joelton Supreme	01-Apr-2020 10:00        Joelton About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SIA' s massive fund raiser a call to the faithful WED, APR 01, 2020 - 5:50 AM IT HAS been said that if the medicine tastes bad, it could be good for you. For shareholders of Singapore Airlines, belief in that maxim may be the only thing that could make the bitter prospect of a massive earnings dilution easier to swallow. To save the airline as it suffers the... https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/sias-massive-fund-raiser-a-call-to-the-faithful
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investshare Supreme	01-Apr-2020 07:49        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So if I give a 10x PE, best case is $3? like2learn      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 20:07) Posted: Issued shares : 1,185,128,325        VS      up to 1,777,692,487 Rights Shares => dilution > 50%, i.e. EPS now ard $0.58 => EPS will be < $0.3 assuming equal financial performance, correct ? still haven' t count MCB rights conversion yet, if it happens. If we look at the EPS trend over the years,it' s very difficult to estimate EPS : https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/sg/about-us/information-for-investors/financial-highlights/ so, what is the fair value - how to calculate ? this exercise is very chim.
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like2learn Veteran	31-Mar-2020 20:07        like2learn About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Issued shares : 1,185,128,325        VS      up to 1,777,692,487 Rights Shares => dilution > 50%, i.e. EPS now ard $0.58 => EPS will be < $0.3 assuming equal financial performance, correct ? still haven' t count MCB rights conversion yet, if it happens. If we look at the EPS trend over the years,it' s very difficult to estimate EPS : https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/sg/about-us/information-for-investors/financial-highlights/ so, what is the fair value - how to calculate ? this exercise is very chim.
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Observers Elite	31-Mar-2020 19:47        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	As long as food and shelter not inflating exponentially, what is the problem really? Life is but a dream.... bukit-kermit      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:40) Posted: This scheme very much looks like a donation drive for the public to support SIA, and the tactic used is similar to printing banana money during WWII by the Japanese - The ability to churn out money without something of equal value to support. I am surprised that such method still exists and allowable in economic. trademaster      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:16) Posted: TA wise, Looks like dropping below 5 dlr soon
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trademaster Supreme	31-Mar-2020 15:48        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If want to invest, wait below 5dlr or near ex-right period. bukit-kermit      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:40) Posted: This scheme very much looks like a donation drive for the public to support SIA, and the tactic used is similar to printing banana money during WWII by the Japanese - The ability to churn out money without something of equal value to support. I am surprised that such method still exists and allowable in economic. trademaster      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:16) Posted: TA wise, Looks like dropping below 5 dlr soon
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bukit-kermit Member	31-Mar-2020 15:40        bukit-kermit About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This scheme very much looks like a donation drive for the public to support SIA, and the tactic used is similar to printing banana money during WWII by the Japanese - The ability to churn out money without something of equal value to support. I am surprised that such method still exists and allowable in economic. trademaster      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:16) Posted: TA wise, Looks like dropping below 5 dlr soon? bukit-kermit      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:02) Posted: Correction to the maths: $4.20 is computed from  [(2)*($6)+(3)*($3)]/5 Add-on to topic: If after right issue date, the price of each share in market is stablilised at $3/share, then the existing holder had technically made a direct lost of 50% from their existing shares, irrelevant to whether they have purchase the new shares.... If market value is stablised at $6, the shares of existing holder are not affected, the new share injected will enjoy a 100% increased in value. But again, I emphasize my impression, how did the new share quantity arise?
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sengsk Elite	31-Mar-2020 15:30        sengsk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Break 5.30 It may goes towards 4.50
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lighter87 Master	31-Mar-2020 15:21        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now only retail investors and termasek will be buying this share, there are no upside but many downsides. Even today supposed to be green day, sia also drop
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trademaster Supreme	31-Mar-2020 15:16        trademaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TA wise, Looks like dropping below 5 dlr soon? bukit-kermit      ( Date: 31-Mar-2020 15:02) Posted: Correction to the maths: $4.20 is computed from  [(2)*($6)+(3)*($3)]/5 Add-on to topic: If after right issue date, the price of each share in market is stablilised at $3/share, then the existing holder had technically made a direct lost of 50% from their existing shares, irrelevant to whether they have purchase the new shares.... If market value is stablised at $6, the shares of existing holder are not affected, the new share injected will enjoy a 100% increased in value. But again, I emphasize my impression, how did the new share quantity arise?
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