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ping an insurance a big fintech giant that
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AhLiang
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29-May-2020 06:43
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We're you vested expert? How much you lost?
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TA_Expert
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29-May-2020 06:37
Yells: "The World has changed" |
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The share price is still so strong. Not even drop to $6-7. |
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DooDoo
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29-May-2020 00:09
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Yea was thinking around 7~7.50 range near target price also.
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spec008
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28-May-2020 23:12
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Totally agreed
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SinglePore
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28-May-2020 22:55
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SGX is the largest " casino" in SG. When two casinos are closed during COVID, SGX is the only betting (aka " gambling" ) platform still open. Cash is flowing from casinos to SGX. Whether you win or lose, SGX will always win. | ||||
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vivacious
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28-May-2020 20:58
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unlikely....sub 7.50 maybe
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DooDoo
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28-May-2020 20:01
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Was thinking to wait for ard sub 7 like the last round before buying. Thats just my humble opinion. Ma 2 Cents :) dyodd | ||||
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uiop1223
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28-May-2020 20:00
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No way. Why merge with a useless country run by clowns of lower intelligent than our own 4g clowns?
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limcs84
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28-May-2020 19:32
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You mean it will drop to $8 tomorrow?
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CheeryVGoh
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28-May-2020 19:13
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SGX made an announcement on 27 May 2020 about gradually discontinuing the offering of MSCI index derivative contracts except MSCI Singapore. The market didn&rsquo t react well after this announcement. SGX stock was sold down by almost 12% by the end of the trading day. Is MSCI index products so important to SGX? Is the selldown overdone? I will provide my personal views to these questions. At the same time, I want to emphasise that my views may not be what exactly transpired between SGX and MSCI. Neither am I sure about SGX&rsquo s strategy going forward. We will never know the truth unless we are the insiders. So I can only make educated guesses. Many Financial Products Require IndexesIndexes are the taxonomy of the capital markets as they provide the structure for the creation of investment products. First, we shape the indexes, then the indexes shape us. This is why sometimes investors talk in terms of Asia-Pacific ex-Japan, Emerging Markets ex-China and ESG. Indexes have profound impact on the way we think about investments than we would like to admit. Indexes are omnipresent. They can track various asset classes such as equities, fixed income, commodities. They could also be based on themes (e.g. cybersecurity) or strategies (value, growth etc). Financial products such as ETFs, futures and options would in turn track these indexes. For example, the STI ETF tracks the FTSE Straits Times Index. There are also derivatives (futures and options) that tracks equity indexes like MSCI Singapore. Hence, indexes play a crucial role in finance and many financial products are dependent on them. Indexing incurs license feesThe use of indexes isn&rsquo t free. There are license fees to be paid to the indexers. Previously I shared that indexing is getting more powerful in the world of finance and especially with the growth of index investing. The 3 most powerful indexers are SPGI, MSCI and FTSE, and they collectively made over US$4 billion in 2019 from licensing indexes. SGX has developed their own iEdge IndicesFTSE is owned by London Stock Exchange (LSE) and contributed 32% of LSE&rsquo s revenue in 2019. Probably SGX was taking a leaf out of LSE&rsquo s playbook &ndash to create a new revenue stream by creating their own index business. SGX Index Edge was launched in October 2015 and currently offer indices such as:
In SGX&rsquo s 2019 Annual Report, Loh Boon Chye, the CEO of SGX, said,
SGX parked the index business under the &ldquo Market Data and Connectivity&rdquo business segment. The business has been growing at a compounded annual rate of 6% for the past 5 years. However, we aren&rsquo t able to find the breakdown of the index contribution to the revenue and is currently mixed with other data and connectivity fees.  HKEX introducing MSCI derivativesI am not sure if it was coincidental or planned, HKEX announced that they would be launching derivatives using MSCI indexes on the same day SGX announced the discontinuation. While some market observers believe that it was MSCI ditching Singapore for Hong Kong, I believe otherwise. It makes more business sense for MSCI to have both cities adopting its indexes. There&rsquo s no exclusivity and the more the merrier. Here&rsquo s my speculation: it could be a case where SGX started to offer their own indexes years ago. Imagine your customer becomes a potential competitor. It doesn&rsquo t feel good at all. Overtime, the trading volume may not have been inspiring for MSCI and hence, they would want to strike a deal somewhere else. HKEX has been a rival to SGX. With MSCI products being offered to HKEX, the competition in the derivative space would heat up between SGX and HKEX. Hence, I believe it all started when SGX chose to further their own index business and probably this was the right time to do so after having success in their derivative trading business and having MSCI partnering rival HKEX. Impact to SGX&rsquo s businessSGX presented to analysts about the impact of the discontinuation of the MSCI contract on its business. The MSCI products (except MSCI Singapore) contributed about 12% of the derivatives&rsquo daily average volume.  SGX also estimated that a 10% to 15% reduction to its FY2021 net profits if no mitigating actions were done. I believe they would definitely do something about it by replacing these contracts with their own index products. It is possible that these new products may not be as popular but the potential reduction should not be as high as what was presented. Moreover, SGX ended the presentation with this line (emphasis mine),
This adds support to the idea that SGX intends to build its index business. Is the price drop warranted?Based on a share price of $8.75, SGX has a trailing PE ratio of 21 and a dividend yield of 3.4%. The average PE was about 24 in the last 10 years while PE 20 was the lowest level in which the SGX stock has traded at. If we consider that SGX&rsquo s earnings would decline by 10-15%, the trailing PE ratio may go up to the average range of 24. Hence, the market did discount the news quite accurately. So I would say the price is fair, but not cheap. By Alvin Chow
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Potato
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28-May-2020 18:06
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knn... CLOB
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DooDoo
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28-May-2020 17:47
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If i?m not wrong, DBS TP 7.40 . Can do your own check. Just saying... would wait close to sub 7 | ||||
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vivacious
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28-May-2020 17:33
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tomorrow sub 8 may present a decent buying opp | ||||
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limcs84
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28-May-2020 17:03
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This is SGX stock really heart attack. It was trading at $8.18 at 1650hrs to 1658hrs and it looks like it is heading up. Suddenly, it slammed down to $8.13 instantly. | ||||
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takashinzy
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28-May-2020 17:01
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way to go!
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laksaman57
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28-May-2020 16:04
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Abudan 
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michaeltan
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28-May-2020 16:00
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More US funds will be coming to Singapore for sure.
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lifeisgood
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28-May-2020 15:59
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Now sometimes I have to stay up at night to play US shares. Damn tiring. But rewarding. Because SGX nothing much to play, except against chng kays.
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laksaman57
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28-May-2020 15:50
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/us-revokes-hong-kong-special-status-as-anger-grows-over-china-12776804
WASHINGTON: The United States has revoked Hong Kong' s special status under US law, opening the way for the city to be stripped of trading privileges
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takashinzy
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28-May-2020 14:52
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what would b price in short term? getting quite close to covid bottom in Mar...
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