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tccroy Elite	10-Jul-2023 18:35        tccroy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ya precisely, already mentioned so clearly , I loaded to average my purchases prices. I'm not encouraging anyone to load. I just do not understand why he is so keen to intrude into my personal purchases. leroy55      ( Date: 10-Jul-2023 18:28) Posted: Both of you, stop this childish tift. . Machiam koyok vs mata police. We are here to share stock related data tccroy      ( Date: 10-Jul-2023 18:08) Posted: Oh why I must oblige to your request. Unless you paid for me.
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leroy55 Veteran	10-Jul-2023 18:28        leroy55 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Both of you, stop this childish tift. . Machiam koyok vs mata police. We are here to share stock related data tccroy      ( Date: 10-Jul-2023 18:08) Posted: Oh why I must oblige to your request. Unless you paid for me. behonest      ( Date: 10-Jul-2023 17:20) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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tccroy Elite	10-Jul-2023 18:08        tccroy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oh why I must oblige to your request. Unless you paid for me. behonest      ( Date: 10-Jul-2023 17:20) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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tccroy Elite	10-Jul-2023 09:19        tccroy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	I loaded 30,000 shares this morning at 0.43 to average out. Hopefully it has bottom out.
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Damnshiok Master	08-Jul-2023 13:52        Damnshiok About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	You already knew are they? Really? Let us know who are they please... leroy55      ( Date: 07-Jul-2023 23:43) Posted: We already knew who are them. Just let admin and   authority deal with it. On our part , we make sure this thread is peaceful  behonest      ( Date: 07-Jul-2023 13:04) Posted: what made you and ur ah pek friend think so
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leroy55 Veteran	07-Jul-2023 23:43        leroy55 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We already knew who are them. Just let admin and   authority deal with it. On our part , we make sure this thread is peaceful  behonest      ( Date: 07-Jul-2023 13:04) Posted: what made you and ur ah pek friend think so? piscesmonkey      ( Date: 30-Jun-2023 10:04) Posted: Look like morning weak holder flushed out at 455? Now going recover back 50cents?
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behonest Senior	07-Jul-2023 13:04        behonest About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	what made you and ur ah pek friend think so? piscesmonkey      ( Date: 30-Jun-2023 10:04) Posted: Look like morning weak holder flushed out at 455? Now going recover back 50cents?
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tccroy Elite	06-Jul-2023 09:26        tccroy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Let's wait for results announcement next month Pro_trader      ( Date: 06-Jul-2023 09:10) Posted: Doubt it is a cash cow. Generally, overall returns on utility companies have been a dismay. One is better off parking into  govies or high grade bond without the accompanying equity risk. bernardc      ( Date: 06-Jul-2023 07:54) Posted: It is not going to be a phoenix.. But a fat cow collecting money regularly
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Pro_trader Member	06-Jul-2023 09:10        Pro_trader About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Doubt it is a cash cow. Generally, overall returns on utility companies have been a dismay. One is better off parking into  govies or high grade bond without the accompanying equity risk. bernardc      ( Date: 06-Jul-2023 07:54) Posted: It is not going to be a phoenix.. But a fat cow collecting money regularly Pro_trader      ( Date: 05-Jul-2023 15:14) Posted: A utiltiy company is not a tech growth stock just like a chicken can never hope to be a phoenix.  Too much hype over this hydroplant business with many only looking at potential upside but few considering all the risks. Has ISDN a track record of operating profitbale hydroplants? Hydroplants is a utility business and subject to heavy regulations. The operators will not be able to freely increase prices etc or may be subject to price caps or the government may introduce more competition to decrease prices etc.
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bernardc Elite	06-Jul-2023 07:54        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is not going to be a phoenix.. But a fat cow collecting money regularly Pro_trader      ( Date: 05-Jul-2023 15:14) Posted: A utiltiy company is not a tech growth stock just like a chicken can never hope to be a phoenix.  Too much hype over this hydroplant business with many only looking at potential upside but few considering all the risks. Has ISDN a track record of operating profitbale hydroplants? Hydroplants is a utility business and subject to heavy regulations. The operators will not be able to freely increase prices etc or may be subject to price caps or the government may introduce more competition to decrease prices etc.
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Pro_trader Member	05-Jul-2023 15:14        Pro_trader About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	A utiltiy company is not a tech growth stock just like a chicken can never hope to be a phoenix.  Too much hype over this hydroplant business with many only looking at potential upside but few considering all the risks. Has ISDN a track record of operating profitbale hydroplants? Hydroplants is a utility business and subject to heavy regulations. The operators will not be able to freely increase prices etc or may be subject to price caps or the government may introduce more competition to decrease prices etc.
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FrancisLim Elite	04-Jul-2023 16:56        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes hydro plants will contribute to the co' s top and bottom line... but the next hydro plants may only be ready in end 2024 or 2025. Have to be watchful on how the Co' s fare on its sales and profitability relating to China market.  If the fall in revenue and profitability is substantial, that will not arrest the slide in the top and bottom lines even with the powerplants now commercially operating.
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stockpicker Master	04-Jul-2023 16:54        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The CEO claimed it is contributing 18%.  For information,  the first plant of 10 MW @ Lau Biang was in operation only in December 2022. https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ISDN-HOLDINGS-LIMITED-6811966/news/ISDN-Holdings-Limited-Commercializes-its-First-10-MW-Hydropower-Plant-on-31-December-2022-42656616/ bernardc      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 16:17) Posted: Based on last year report.. Mini hydro power plans is contributing about 18℅ Of ISDN profitability.. Let's see h1 2013 says.. TraderBen      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 16:04) Posted: oh IDSN into hydropower? ,, thats a good thing to know.. i believe hydropower is the next big thing after EVs.. now the Japanese car makers all waiting to mass produce.
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stockpicker Master	04-Jul-2023 16:37        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not all power plants owners are making money. This is because the Indonesia power tariff are capped low,  around 9 us cts per kwh.  Hydroplant owners have better chance to make it but not those other type of plants.  Many are not doing well.  Moreover,  the Government' s policies are not all for power generation   for example, suka suka,  they put a power cap limiting on how much one can produce,  They buy the excess power at half price. https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/07/01/it-sends-a-negative-message-hydropower-players-lament-pln-power-cap-in-sumatra.html There are also quite a few players in the market.  China also tried to push into Indonesia https://www.ft.com/content/1a8c599c-cd56-4b94-85fd-7d9d398312eb stockpicker      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 16:15) Posted: If one follow the Annual report in here,  https://isdnenergy.com/investorrelations.html ISDN acquired a company called AEnergy in 2018. The AEnergy was an associated company that carried out a few hydropower projects in Indonesia.    After the acquisition,  they dropped reporting the hydropower excep the one in North Sumatra.  It could be that acquisition did not come with the ownership of the existing hydropower plant projects.  Anyway,  they have just COD the 3 power plants.  Understand that the first plant can contribute an earning of 18% based 2022 financial   probablty,  the 2 other just completed could add another 20%.  But this will come after sometime in operation. bernardc      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 12:18) Posted: Anyone e know.. How many gw of hydropower . ISDN has on hand?? When the hydropower proje ct started.. In 2013 ISDN was looking at, about 110gw..dont know what happened to those projects.. At the moment ISDN has 20.4mw of commercial power plants approved for commercial distribution.. Anyone has, any news on future projects??
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wehuattogether88 Supreme	04-Jul-2023 16:23        wehuattogether88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes ISDN directions will be in hydro plants. A part of their profits will from come from here.    bernardc      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 16:17) Posted: Based on last year report.. Mini hydro power plans is contributing about 18℅ Of ISDN profitability.. Let's see h1 2013 says.. TraderBen      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 16:04) Posted: oh IDSN into hydropower? ,, thats a good thing to know.. i believe hydropower is the next big thing after EVs.. now the Japanese car makers all waiting to mass produce.
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bernardc Elite	04-Jul-2023 16:17        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Based on last year report.. Mini hydro power plans is contributing about 18℅ Of ISDN profitability.. Let's see h1 2013 says.. TraderBen      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 16:04) Posted: oh IDSN into hydropower? ,, thats a good thing to know.. i believe hydropower is the next big thing after EVs.. now the Japanese car makers all waiting to mass produce.. FrancisLim      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 15:46) Posted: Under the old thread which was taken out for reasons unknow, there was a forum contribution who had very detailed knowledge of the power plants.  Hope he would reply to your queries although probably the co' s presentation slide before its recent financial statements have the info
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stockpicker Master	04-Jul-2023 16:15        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If one follow the Annual report in here,  https://isdnenergy.com/investorrelations.html ISDN acquired a company called AEnergy in 2018. The AEnergy was an associated company that carried out a few hydropower projects in Indonesia.    After the acquisition,  they dropped reporting the hydropower excep the one in North Sumatra.  It could be that acquisition did not come with the ownership of the existing hydropower plant projects.  Anyway,  they have just COD the 3 power plants.  Understand that the first plant can contribute an earning of 18% based 2022 financial   probablty,  the 2 other just completed could add another 20%.  But this will come after sometime in operation. bernardc      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 12:18) Posted: Anyone e know.. How many gw of hydropower . ISDN has on hand?? When the hydropower proje ct started.. In 2013 ISDN was looking at, about 110gw..dont know what happened to those projects.. At the moment ISDN has 20.4mw of commercial power plants approved for commercial distribution.. Anyone has, any news on future projects??
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TraderBen Supreme	04-Jul-2023 16:04        TraderBen About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	oh IDSN into hydropower? ,, thats a good thing to know.. i believe hydropower is the next big thing after EVs.. now the Japanese car makers all waiting to mass produce.. FrancisLim      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 15:46) Posted: Under the old thread which was taken out for reasons unknow, there was a forum contribution who had very detailed knowledge of the power plants.  Hope he would reply to your queries although probably the co' s presentation slide before its recent financial statements have the info. bernardc      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 12:18) Posted: Anyone e know.. How many gw of hydropower . ISDN has on hand?? When the hydropower proje ct started.. In 2013 ISDN was looking at, about 110gw..dont know what happened to those projects.. At the moment ISDN has 20.4mw of commercial power plants approved for commercial distribution.. Anyone has, any news on future projects??
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FrancisLim Elite	04-Jul-2023 15:46        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Under the old thread which was taken out for reasons unknow, there was a forum contribution who had very detailed knowledge of the power plants.  Hope he would reply to your queries although probably the co' s presentation slide before its recent financial statements have the info. bernardc      ( Date: 04-Jul-2023 12:18) Posted: Anyone e know.. How many gw of hydropower . ISDN has on hand?? When the hydropower proje ct started.. In 2013 ISDN was looking at, about 110gw..dont know what happened to those projects.. At the moment ISDN has 20.4mw of commercial power plants approved for commercial distribution.. Anyone has, any news on future projects??
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bernardc Elite	04-Jul-2023 12:18        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone e know.. How many gw of hydropower . ISDN has on hand?? When the hydropower proje ct started.. In 2013 ISDN was looking at, about 110gw..dont know what happened to those projects.. At the moment ISDN has 20.4mw of commercial power plants approved for commercial distribution.. Anyone has, any news on future projects??
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