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MtFaber Senior	07-Aug-2013 17:07        MtFaber About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood:
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	@SFGuyRuleZ: Thanks for your insights and analysis. Keep posting!
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heavenknow Member	07-Aug-2013 17:04        heavenknow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Conclusion invest in VARD to huat big big. Remember is invest mid to long term and avoid contra and shorting in this volatile mkt~
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	07-Aug-2013 17:03        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 1   x 1  Alert Admin	I am not the one who started it btw. And if all the information to you is long-winded, I shall stop contributing and leave this forum. Days of investing were still better when I was not in any forum. But I still appreciate those posts by people like krisluke and shareflux (dunno where is he now) Thanks and take care guys!! Cheers.. evahsu      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:57) Posted: Yalor...so long winded.Now reading the thread become so tedious. yokoosi      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:51) Posted: Aiyoh, buy and sell share only what. Why so many old grandfather stories. If u want to buy, you buy, if u want to short, you short. Huat Ah!!
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evahsu Member	07-Aug-2013 16:57        evahsu About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yalor...so long winded.Now reading the thread become so tedious. yokoosi      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:51) Posted: Aiyoh, buy and sell share only what. Why so many old grandfather stories. If u want to buy, you buy, if u want to short, you short. Huat Ah!!
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yokoosi Member	07-Aug-2013 16:53        yokoosi About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now buy vol > sell vol Think for yourselves. Huat Ah !
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yokoosi Member	07-Aug-2013 16:51        yokoosi About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Aiyoh, buy and sell share only what. Why so many old grandfather stories. If u want to buy, you buy, if u want to short, you short. Huat Ah!!
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	07-Aug-2013 16:34        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 4   x 1  Alert Admin	I can understand why some people say Vard has lousy fundamentals now, which I partly agree due to the poor earnings as a result of expansion in Brazil. But is very unfair to judge a company and condemn it just because of certain teething issues which results in poorer margins. These issues are a learning experience and can be resolved in the long run. One of the reasons why Niteroi yard faces overload conditions is because the yard is not big enough to accomodate the smoother construction of bigger ships. But the fact is that they do manage to deliver these bigger ships in the end, which is a breakthrough. The new yard Promar built is now bigger and able to better accomodate the construction of larger hulls. On top of that, they constantly look at new ways to build better ships with better technology. If i am not wrong, the LPG vessels they going to build soon would also be their pioneer attempt. I expect Niteroi yard issue to still affect their overall margins for this year slightly. Even next year, I expect start up operations would maybe have some effect on the overall margin due to their training costs as they increase their workforce to around 2500 (if i am not wrong) for the new yard Promar. All these to me is just short term pain for long term gain. From 2009 to 2012, ebitda margins was from ~5% to ~11% to ~19% to ~13%. I expect this year ebitda margin won't be fantastic, but next year should start to pick up..
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jomini Veteran	07-Aug-2013 16:27        jomini About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "slow down, think, question"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	nah nv been vested. thanks for the story SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:23) Posted: I give ppl all the facts and information to intrepret and analyse for themselves. Whether people want to buy or not, I didn't force or influence or anything. You can look at me in whatever way you want. Ultimately, my conscience is clear. I don't really have to account to anyone here you know? I share only because one of my passions in life is investing. And if you have been following this forum, I only bought during 1.24 and later average down at 0.835 and 0.795. So what's the issue now? Really, I don't understand why people have to hate a counter. Not referring to you (I dunno if you are), but some ppl I know myself in real life.. jomini      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:15) Posted: arent u promoting this counter? u sold alr
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	07-Aug-2013 16:23        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	I give ppl all the facts and information to intrepret and analyse for themselves. Whether people want to buy or not, I didn't force or influence or anything. You can look at me in whatever way you want. Ultimately, my conscience is clear. I don't really have to account to anyone here you know? I share only because one of my passions in life is investing. And if you have been following this forum, I only bought during 1.24 and later average down at 0.835 and 0.795. So what's the issue now? Really, I don't understand why people have to hate a counter. Not referring to you (I dunno if you are), but some ppl I know myself in real life.. jomini      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:15) Posted: arent u promoting this counter? u sold alr? SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:03) Posted: I know of friends who also invest in STX OSV last time and lose alot of money, especially those who are vested at around 1.6 and above. Now when I speak about Vard to them, they only have feelings of anger and hatred for this counter. Ultimately, a counter is just a counter. Just get over it and move on already..
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Simpsons Master	07-Aug-2013 16:18        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They just conducted roadshow so market player will hold it at $0.84..my guess only lar..
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jomini Veteran	07-Aug-2013 16:15        jomini About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "slow down, think, question"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	arent u promoting this counter? u sold alr? SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:03) Posted: I know of friends who also invest in STX OSV last time and lose alot of money, especially those who are vested at around 1.6 and above. Now when I speak about Vard to them, they only have feelings of anger and hatred for this counter. Ultimately, a counter is just a counter. Just get over it and move on already..
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heavenknow Member	07-Aug-2013 16:14        heavenknow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not easy to hold @0.84, selloff before long weekend is usual.
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eaton1977 Member	07-Aug-2013 16:06        eaton1977 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	The price now is better than 1.6 SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 16:03) Posted: I know of friends who also invest in STX OSV last time and lose alot of money, especially those who are vested at around 1.6 and above. Now when I speak about Vard to them, they only have feelings of anger and hatred for this counter. Ultimately, a counter is just a counter. Just get over it and move on already..
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	07-Aug-2013 16:03        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I know of friends who also invest in STX OSV last time and lose alot of money, especially those who are vested at around 1.6 and above. Now when I speak about Vard to them, they only have feelings of anger and hatred for this counter. Ultimately, a counter is just a counter. Just get over it and move on already..
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jomini Veteran	07-Aug-2013 16:02        jomini About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "slow down, think, question"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dunno SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:58) Posted: Why should it don't hold at 0.84? jomini      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:51) Posted: why should it hold at 0.84
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Simpsons Master	07-Aug-2013 16:01        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It should hold and sail north.. A battered stock said enough is enough It's time to rise up and sail north..lol
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SFGuyRuleZ Veteran	07-Aug-2013 15:58        SFGuyRuleZ About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Yells: "You are your own master.."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why should it don't hold at 0.84? jomini      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:51) Posted: why should it hold at 0.84? Simpsons      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:45) Posted: Vard should be able to hold well at $0.840..next week may challenge $0.865..if clear, should be able to reach $0.90.. This one cannot contra..must hold..
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Simpsons Master	07-Aug-2013 15:55        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Previous strong resistance at $0.835..as long as it close at $0.84..that will form the next support and it will try to clear the next resistance at $0.865..in my opinion..anyone has md for vard? Previously when it slide from $1.05 to $0.865..there was no support at all.. jomini      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:51) Posted: why should it hold at 0.84? Simpsons      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:45) Posted: Vard should be able to hold well at $0.840..next week may challenge $0.865..if clear, should be able to reach $0.90.. This one cannot contra..must hold..
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jomini Veteran	07-Aug-2013 15:51        jomini About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "slow down, think, question"
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	why should it hold at 0.84? Simpsons      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:45) Posted: Vard should be able to hold well at $0.840..next week may challenge $0.865..if clear, should be able to reach $0.90.. This one cannot contra..must hold..
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eaton1977 Member	07-Aug-2013 15:51        eaton1977 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope back to 1 plus soon Simpsons      ( Date: 07-Aug-2013 15:45) Posted: Vard should be able to hold well at $0.840..next week may challenge $0.865..if clear, should be able to reach $0.90.. This one cannot contra..must hold..
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