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Peter_Pan
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30-Aug-2013 18:59
Yells: "kopi-o siu dai mai hum!" |
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When will NOL have a big rally again? | ||
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sgng123
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30-Aug-2013 17:25
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Syria crisis hitting shipping and airline stocks hard due to spiking fuel oil, had to wait out till US had their missiles fun and called it a day then ship share price would recover. In all bad week for ship due to lot of global uncertainties even though global economy look set to improve in 2H. By the way Sep GRI very minor gain, look like need more vessel cancellation to sustain freight rate. This 6 months gona be hell for ship investors, hold on and stay put soon the storm would be over. | ||
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Tomique
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30-Aug-2013 14:57
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Security council won't approve UN strike on Syria what with the experience they had with Iraq, that turned out to be a cooked up story of WMD that never was.   Unfortunately they still got to eventually hang Saddam Hussein as a scapegoat for some " crimes" not associated with WMD to save face for launching an allied forces attack on Irag.   It is a case of " once bitten twice shy for UN security council.   Hope this round, when USA does it alone, they don't fumble in anything they are going to do. But more earnestly hope they don't make any move at all for the sake of not losing American lives to " save other lives that are destroying themselves in their civil war" ..   .   | ||
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30-Aug-2013 11:23
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can just launch missle from their aircaft carrier.....   dun even need airplane to launch air strike...    
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sgng123
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30-Aug-2013 11:02
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end of month those who buy on dip all lose money lol. had to wait out till selling block clear then ship can move north. waiting out look like smart choice till 3q. | ||
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sgng123
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30-Aug-2013 09:53
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Obama would still order limited missile attack on empty key government buildings/ military barracks in Syria just for show. Maybe on sunday fires a dozen of missiles then called it  day. The display of force is to show other hostile nations not to use chemical weapon or they would feel US wrath lol. Another Wayang global PR show. Not much impact on stock market and oil price would tumble when US finish the show. US commodity traders must be shorting oil like crazy now lol. ship still stagnant till the Syria waynag show ended. | ||
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wait4opp
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30-Aug-2013 09:21
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Crude Oil Price Drop.......GOOD | ||
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wait4opp
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30-Aug-2013 09:19
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NO MORE WAR !!!   |
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sgng123
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29-Aug-2013 23:54
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I still be in the wait and see mode since lot of uncertainty still hanging around. Most likely would wait till Mideast tension ease after US and friends fires missiles to vent their frustration and called it a day lol. By the way US 2Q GDP got revised from 1.7% to 2.5%, indicating better growth in 2Q than expected. 2H 13 might be the one to finally break free of  growth stagnation, 3Q result from ship going to be interesting since major shipping lines all indicating a better 3Q  result due to  rate rebound and cost saving taken. I checked out ship 3Q12  result and find that 113K TEU of chartered ships  retired during that period, might see a similar  capacity cut in 3Q due to charters retiring. This would in turn boost profitability due to better load factor, might result in a big drop in operating cost due to lesser oil consumed.  | ||
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Peter_Pan
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29-Aug-2013 19:58
Yells: "kopi-o siu dai mai hum!" |
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Already closed position for NOL. Looking for entry tomorrow. | ||
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sgng123
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29-Aug-2013 19:54
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http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/shipping-group-cma-cgm-posts-113232848.html French shipping group CMA posted a stronger 2Q profit of 268mil, might give ship some morale booster tomorrow if tonite US market don pull down market tomorrow. |
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sgng123
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28-Aug-2013 12:34
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sti breaks 3000 maybe thurs would get some short covering relief but stay caution and stay away from market | ||
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Hawkeye
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28-Aug-2013 08:54
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Finance & Economy
Cosco Pacific First-Half Profit Triples
Revenue was US$395,195,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$367,355,000), an increase of 7.6%. The revenue was derived from the terminal business and the container leasing, management and sale businesses. The revenues of the two core businesses increased by 9.7% and 5.7% to US$217,066,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$197,806,000) and US$180,234,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$170,569,000) respectively.
Gross profit was US$172,978,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$165,470,000), an increase of 4.5%, as gross profit of both the two core businesses increased. During the period, the gross profit margin of the container leasing, management and sale businesses remained stable. However, the gross profit margin of the Group dropped by 1.2 percentage points to 43.8% (corresponding period of 2012: 45.0%) as a result of higher initial operating costs arising from Xiamen Ocean Gate Container Terminal Co., Ltd. (" Xiamen Ocean Gate Terminal" ), which commenced operation in May 2012. On 20th May 2013, the Group announced the disposal of its 21.8% equity interest in China International Marine Containers (Group) Co., Ltd. (" CIMC" ) for a cash consideration of US$1,219,789,000, which was completed on 27th June 2013, resulting in a net gain of US$393,411,000. The disposal offers a good opportunity for the Group to focus resources on its two core businesses, with a view to improving its profitability and creating enhanced value for shareholders in the medium-to-long term. Profit attributable to equity holders of the Company rose by 213.1% to US$560,292,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$178,925,000). Excluding the share of profit from CIMC, a discontinued business, and the net gain on the disposal of its equity interest in CIMC, profit attributable to equity holders of the Company dropped by 3.6% to US$143,822,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$149,174,000). An interim dividend is HK18.6 cents (corresponding period of 2012: HK20.5 cents) per share and a special interim dividend of HK43.8 cents (corresponding period of 2012: Nil) per share as a result of the disposal of 21.8% equity interest in CIMC were declared. The dividends will be paid in cash and with a scrip dividend alternative, with a payout ratio of 40.0% (corresponding period of 2012: 40.0%). Profit from the terminal business decreased by 5.1% to US$92,830,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$97,841,000). The decrease was mainly attributable to a rise in income tax expenses for some terminals in mainland China following the expiry of tax holidays, an increase in the loss of Xiamen Ocean Gate Terminal compared with the corresponding period of last year as it is still in a ramp-up period, as well as increased operating costs of the terminal business. Equity throughput increased by 8.2% to 8,201,200 TEU (corresponding period of 2012: 7,581,363 TEU). Total throughput increased by 9.7% to 29,494,353 TEU (corresponding period of 2012: 26,876,860 TEU). Profit from the container leasing, management and sale businesses rose by 4.8% to US$76,291,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$72,766,000). The increase was mainly due to an expansion of the container leasing fleet. The container fleet size increased by 4.3% to 1,874,826 TEU (30th June 2012: 1,797,377 TEU), with an overall average utilisation rate of 94.5% (corresponding period of 2012: 95.2%) The Group's share of profit from CIMC during the period included the profit for the period from January to May as the disposal of its equity interest in CIMC was completed in June, being US$23,059,000 (January to June of 2012: US$29,751,000), a decrease of 22.5% Operational Review According to a report published by the International Monetary Fund in July 2013, the global economic growth remained weak in the first half of 2013, with prolonged economic recession in Europe and sluggish growth of the United States. The growth of China's economy and foreign trade further slowed down due to continued weakness in the external economy and a decline in local demand. According to the statistics from the Chinese Ministry of Commerce, the growth in China's imports and exports was 5.3% and 4.5% respectively in the first half of 2013. In addition, statistics from the Chinese Ministry of Transport showed that in the first half of 2013, the growth in the throughput of China's container ports slowed down to 8.3% from 8.8% in the corresponding period of last year. During the period, the Group maintained a stable growth in the total container throughput of its terminals. However, the terminal business recorded a decrease in profit as a result of rising costs. In respect of the container leasing business, the expansion of its container leasing fleet continued to drive growth in revenue and profit from container leasing. Terminals Profit from the terminal business decreased by 5.1% to US$92,830,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$97,841,000). Primarily due to a rise in income tax expenses for Qingdao Qianwan Terminal and Shanghai Pudong Terminal following the expiry of tax holidays, the Group's share of profit from Qingdao Qianwan Terminal and Shanghai Pudong Terminal decreased by 21.8% to US$14,362,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$18,370,000) and by 22.8% to US$8,381,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$10,853,000) respectively. In addition, the loss of Xiamen Ocean Gate Terminal increased compared with the corresponding period of last year as it is still in a ramp-up period. As a result of the impact of a strike and rising costs, profit contribution from COSCO-HIT Terminal decreased by 18.6% to US$9,750,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$11,979,000). Revenue from the terminal business grew by 9.7% to US$217,066,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$197,806,000). Xiamen Ocean Gate Terminal, which commenced operation in May 2012, recorded revenue of US$9,882,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$1,857,000) during the period, contributing to the growth in revenue from the terminal business for the first half of 2013. In addition, revenue from Piraeus Terminal and Guangzhou South China Oceangate Terminal grew by 5.4% to US$73,330,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$69,545,000) and by 4.0% to US$61,725,000 (corresponding period of 2012: US$59,333,000) respectively. The demand for consumer products in Europe and the United States remained weak, creating a greater impact on the throughput of major container ports in the Pearl River Delta and the Yangtze River Delta in China. Ports in the Bohai Rim region still outperformed those in the aforesaid two regions, on average. In the first half of 2013, COSCO Pacific maintained a stable growth in its total container throughput, which rose by 9.7% to 29,494,353 TEU (corresponding period of 2012: 26,876,860 TEU). The Group's terminal companies in mainland China handled a total of 24,377,866 TEU (corresponding period of 2012: 22,302,104 TEU), up 9.3%. Equity throughput of the Group was up 8.2% to 8,201,200 TEU (corresponding period of 2012: 7,581,363 TEU). Source: Cosco Pacific Group |
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sgng123
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27-Aug-2013 14:50
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Market undergo correction in anticipation of Sep tapering down by 50 noon. Might breach 3000 soon and any stock that give dividend and overvalued would be hit. So stay clear of market till dust settle down | ||
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sgng123
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26-Aug-2013 14:06
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ship staying in range till more short covering. Today big news is china minzhong( mushroom grower) got into trouble as short seller agency accuse it of false reporting of annual result for the last 5 years. Share price tank 50% till now, that explain why i don encourage investing in china firm, all kelong and big international short sellers like to target them. I still remember some peep in post argue that china minzhong is a better play than ship due to stable business model and strong dividend but look what happen lol. Ship is safest play cos it got a very strong backer and it is run by Singaporean who is not afraid to report losses. ship got transparency while other private firm got lot of problem popping up when QE ending. Lot of bankruptcy for china listed companies in STI, avoid them all. | ||
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sgng123
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26-Aug-2013 09:19
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cross 1.10 again, hope momentum continue | ||
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sgng123
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23-Aug-2013 17:30
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ship recovered almost all the losses suffered this week. Hope next week upward trend continue. Still not going in due to low volume and uncertain trading trend. | ||
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sgng123
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22-Aug-2013 21:16
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good news out of global economy PMI data. US/Europe/China all reported positive growth data of PMI above 50. US jobless claim edge up from 320K to 336K , average 4 weeks data is at pre-recession level. Look likely August job data going to be in the 200K+, no wonder fed reserve wanted to ended QE3 to prevent overheating of economy. If all goes well might see China/US/Europe the big three all going to recover in 4Q, might improve container cargo demand for next year during CNY to prepare  for stronger consumer demand. 2014 might be the breakthrough year for ship performance. | ||
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sgng123
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22-Aug-2013 13:06
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Later tonite got jobless claim from US at 8.30PM, better data would again trigger another correction on US market and maybe caused another selldown in asia like today. Markets in asia are starting to return to normal once the QE3 money influx retreated, existing valuation on dividend and defensive stocks not warranted and might see a correction soon it overdue for it. Markets going to take off QE drug addiction and start to function normally. Again just to all bro, don play commodity stocks, the  era for ridiculous commodity prices is coming to a end Due to a surging US dollars, everything would be back to demand and supply basic which usually meant low commodity price due to slow global growth. Ship investors just need to hang on these few months from Aug till end Oct then ship would see upside movement once it returned to positive core earning in 3Q which is highly possible. 3Q result out on 30 Oct 2013, keep finger cross and pray hard  more cost saving are achieved to improve earning.  | ||
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sgng123
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22-Aug-2013 10:37
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southeast stock markets got hammered today, so ship also go down by a touch. A piece of good news is HSBC china flash  PMI return to growth from 47.7 to 50.1, indicating improving demand from developed countries. As long china PMI indicate moderate growth should be good for ship performance later in 3Q/4Q. Currently the market sentiment is bad, investors are dumping southeast stocks and return back to the west. More downside for STI as Singapore is seen as safe haven for hot money parking so would take a lot more hit than other when money start to move out. | ||
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