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HUTCHISON PORT TRUST -HIGHEST YIELD AT ROCK BOTTOM
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09-Oct-2020 16:19     
 
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 Alert Admin 		zzzzzzzz...... 
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Barcalo
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09-Oct-2020 16:15     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Shortlists covering back now....
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WiseInvestor
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09-Oct-2020 15:44     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I just bought this net worth 55 cents at 0.146 Us cents. For many year, the Trust has distributed capital out of non-cash depreciation expenses of HKD 5 million since its ports are the main assets of the Trust being subject to annual depreciation. Depreciation expenses are deducted from net income, but this non cash item is added back for the purpose of DPU.
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09-Oct-2020 13:22     
 
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 Alert Admin 		THE CHINA AND HONG KONG BIG BOYS ARE BACK FROM HOLIDAYS

IT SHOULD BE ROCKET TIME
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09-Oct-2020 12:57     
 
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 Alert Admin 		where is GOLDFINGER ? He posted 2 messages in HPHT when 17c then cut loss disappeared ?!!!

bobdog      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 12:26) Posted:

No bullets liao:( I spend the last bullets in medtecs and capchina. Hold my xxx lots tightly.

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bobdog
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09-Oct-2020 12:26     
 
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 Alert Admin 		No bullets liao:( I spend the last bullets in medtecs and capchina. Hold my xxx lots tightly.
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09-Oct-2020 12:08     
 
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 Alert Admin 		It may be a good time for me to average up since i am vested at avg 10.5 cents.
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09-Oct-2020 12:04     
 
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 Alert Admin 		going to scoop in now after profit taking from 17c
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09-Oct-2020 11:57     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Medtec reported almost 10,000% increase in profits. BB or no BB, if company/reits does well consistently, share price goes up.

My fav reits is Acendas. Rights issue at 10-20% discount, recover back very fast. Damn power. And income increase. DPU increase

danger      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:54) Posted:

it is true ... medtecs from like 6c can push until $1.90 in few months .. WTF

Barcalo      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:43) Posted:

Aiya dun talk about all this terms lah, if BBs wanna push what shit also push, they dun see all these DPU, CDI.... Lah
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09-Oct-2020 11:56     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Shorted at 148, good chances to cover around 143 as looks weak. Yesterday last minute push up which I think BB kill shortists 

ssw518      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 10:20) Posted:

nice Easywin shorting? I buy lower. Good economy data presented ppl still sell,
means mostly contra / short? Let' s see how since hell lots of retail buyer all switch to medical
for next week hoping medtec result can give super boost to medical market.
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09-Oct-2020 10:28     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Hope NAV of 55 cents will be realised soon by way of privatisation which is still on card. 

If not privatisated, we can make use of this NAV of 55 cents by way of high DPU in term of capital distribution for a long term until we can realise this net worth! Even the HPH Trust' s ports' positive cash generation in term of income distribution can exceed investors' expectation.

Therefore,  14.7 US cents are too cheap to buy!
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09-Oct-2020 10:20     
 
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 Alert Admin 		nice Easywin shorting? I buy lower. Good economy data presented ppl still sell,
means mostly contra / short? Let' s see how since hell lots of retail buyer all switch to medical
for next week hoping medtec result can give super boost to medical market.
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09-Oct-2020 10:08     
 
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China predicted to report 2.3% positive GDP growth: research

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1202901.shtml
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09-Oct-2020 10:07     
 
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Mainland Chinese stocks surge as they return to trade private survey shows China &rsquo s services activity expanding

 
  • China ' s Caixin/Markit services Purchasing Managers&rsquo Index for September came in at 54.8, above the 50 level that separates expansion and contraction.
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  • Investor focus will also likely be on ongoing developments regarding potential new fiscal stimulus stateside.


ssw518      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 09:57) Posted:

caixin service pmi came in at 54.8 point vs  expectation of 50.7.
Might see this one shoot up, if BB wanna push with this news,
HSI moving liao
dyodd

danger      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:54) Posted:

it is true ... medtecs from like 6c can push until $1.90 in few months .. WT
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09-Oct-2020 10:03     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I know all financial and accounting terms including accrual basis and deferred tax assets/liability. I guess you have not understood at all what I pointed out about DPU. CAPEX is still low - project under development related to port. Each port can generate annual cow cash - positive cash flow over the (negative) capex. Then DPU is positive!

I am vested in HPH Trust cos of very low Price/NAV - 55 cents which is to be made use of by way of capital distribution which mostly come from high depreciation expenses - not subject to tax. Plus Income distribution (Revenue nature from operation). DPU include income and capital distribution. This is practicable in many REITS. Low Price/NAV is very attractive in all analysts and investors' eyes.

Despite non-cash items like high impairment charges, unrealised loss on revaluation that cause a net comprenshive loss, there have been very positive and healthy cash flow for many years to present under review, that' s why the Trust distribute non-stop every 6 months to unitholders with 100% dividend policy which is based on cash flow situation.

uiop1223      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:32) Posted:

Non cash items like depreciation. Its CAPEX and allocated to expenses over time. CAPEX affects DPU right?

Deferred tax assets / liability it affects cash when its eventually realised right? That why financial standards are based on accrual basis and not cash accounting. Its all about timing and accrual, though not perfect, attempts to take into account of all these non cash but nevertheless impactful to company performance in financial sttms

I totally disagree with u and i doubt your understanding of financials. And you belong to grp of retailers who are easily cheated by companies who like to give overly optimistic forward looking statements.
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ssw518
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09-Oct-2020 09:57     
 
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 Alert Admin 		caixin service pmi came in at 54.8 point vs  expectation of 50.7.
Might see this one shoot up, if BB wanna push with this news,
HSI moving liao
dyodd

danger      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:54) Posted:

it is true ... medtecs from like 6c can push until $1.90 in few months .. WTF

Barcalo      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:43) Posted:

Aiya dun talk about all this terms lah, if BBs wanna push what shit also push, they dun see all these DPU, CDI.... Lah
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09-Oct-2020 07:54     
 
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 Alert Admin 		it is true ... medtecs from like 6c can push until $1.90 in few months .. WTF

Barcalo      ( Date: 09-Oct-2020 07:43) Posted:

Aiya dun talk about all this terms lah, if BBs wanna push what shit also push, they dun see all these DPU, CDI.... Lah
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danger
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09-Oct-2020 07:51     
 
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 Alert Admin 		uiop don' t worry about CAPEX... HPHT capex has been declining since 2016 where is over HKD 1 billion 

Until last result the CAPEX is dropped to around HKD 290m only
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09-Oct-2020 07:47     
 
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 Alert Admin 		And you are telling people to ignore impairment charges because its non cash? You know why temasek pull out from keppel offer? If its something to be ignored, why temasek pull out? Reits or company are to be analysed the same. The key difference is that REITs have very little retained earnings and when they need to expand or suffer huge loss of income, they need to do rights issue because they dont save for rainy days. Reits distribute all their income which make them attractive to retailers. So, normally, u get a few qtr of DPU, then reits manager will ask u for money or dilute your units by issuing private placement. Reits is not as wonderful as it seems to be.
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Barcalo
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09-Oct-2020 07:43     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Aiya dun talk about all this terms lah, if BBs wanna push what shit also push, they dun see all these DPU, CDI.... Lah
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