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feedfrenzy Veteran	20-Jun-2017 09:33        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	past perfomance is not an indicative of the future get out of here..shooooo justinN      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 23:37) Posted: just look at the LT trend. this is just a temporary rebound. Could be going to 30c at the rate it is burning its cash.
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DoChun Member	20-Jun-2017 06:52        DoChun About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yawnzzz... can you post something new?! justinN      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 23:37) Posted: just look at the LT trend. this is just a temporary rebound. Could be going to 30c at the rate it is burning its cash.
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justinN Member	19-Jun-2017 23:37        justinN About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 2  Alert Admin	just look at the LT trend. this is just a temporary rebound. Could be going to 30c at the rate it is burning its cash.
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justinN Member	19-Jun-2017 23:35        justinN About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
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TenPips Veteran	19-Jun-2017 21:20        TenPips About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, price was 54/545 when those posts were published. Congrats for sticking to your own belief and being able to enjoy the mini rally today. 👍 Upz123      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 17:29) Posted: Congrats ! I hv almost wanted to sell off at 545 after reading EB' s posts .  Counter really runs... but runs towards the north pole ! TenPips      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 17:16) Posted: I will be holding.
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junction Master	19-Jun-2017 20:50        junction About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is not the first time this counter goes against your analysis and prediction of price movement.   Huat to all holders! earlybird2017      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 17:20) Posted: From here count 2- 3 days. Price still below 56-56.5, you better run. earlybird2017      ( Date: 17-Jun-2017 18:14) Posted: Take the chance to get out from this counter. Expect price will be soften at 56 for 2-3 days. If this happen and never go up again, you better run fast from this counter. The cash flow and assets vs debt and dividend payout ratio are too similar to Rickmer maritime trust. Cash flow: always just enough to pay dividend and expenses, not enough increasing the borrowing, debt is never be paid. Debt: grow from 1.29 nil to 1.35bil in a year, never be reduced but increase, the revenue and profit margin Not improve at all. Assets: tangible assets including property and equipment which can be sold to market( but always record in best time and never impaired as per depreciation and etc) only 309mio, intangible assets( this is like noble fair value gain from contract, an assets which cannot be converted to cash but record its value from business by assumption the value of business) is 2.43bil. So? Avoid after this round bounce. Why? Look at the expenses and profit margin, increase and decrease. Look at debt, increasing. Look at cash flow? Always not enough. So? What next? Cash will be burning continually, debt will be increasing. Then, one day, debt maturity come, what happen? Look at rickmer maritime and noble will do. Again, based on TA, Price should not cross 56 after 60 was set as high after this bounce. If it happen and come down from 56. We will see 40+ again within 6 months. This imply you potentially to lose your money if you buy at 56 or a downtrend from 56. Then next 2-3 years, debt maturity come, a right issue will be expected to be raised at lower price to pay debt. And then, another debt maturity come, a loan restructuring or bankruptcy protection will be filed to dilute further. EB has written another story after noble and Ezion for next 1-2 years. Let's wait and see what will happen for this counter
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bishan22 Supreme	19-Jun-2017 18:59        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Closed with a strong white candle with reasonable good volume..... bishan22      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:14) Posted: This long weekend enjoy yourself with the given 0.01625 dividend.....
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earlybird2017 Veteran	19-Jun-2017 18:30        earlybird2017 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 2  Alert Admin	Look properly, I said 56. Hold from here if you dare. Upz123      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 17:29) Posted: Congrats ! I hv almost wanted to sell off at 545 after reading EB' s posts .  Counter really runs... but runs towards the north pole ! TenPips      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 17:16) Posted: I will be holding.
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Upz123 Senior	19-Jun-2017 17:29        Upz123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Congrats ! I hv almost wanted to sell off at 545 after reading EB' s posts .  Counter really runs... but runs towards the north pole ! TenPips      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 17:16) Posted: I will be holding.  feedfrenzy      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:55) Posted: exactly.. got margin of safety also... make me itchy to sell or hold haha anwyay.we shall se
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earlybird2017 Veteran	19-Jun-2017 17:20        earlybird2017 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	From here count 2- 3 days. Price still below 56-56.5, you better run. earlybird2017      ( Date: 17-Jun-2017 18:14) Posted: Take the chance to get out from this counter. Expect price will be soften at 56 for 2-3 days. If this happen and never go up again, you better run fast from this counter. The cash flow and assets vs debt and dividend payout ratio are too similar to Rickmer maritime trust. Cash flow: always just enough to pay dividend and expenses, not enough increasing the borrowing, debt is never be paid. Debt: grow from 1.29 nil to 1.35bil in a year, never be reduced but increase, the revenue and profit margin Not improve at all. Assets: tangible assets including property and equipment which can be sold to market( but always record in best time and never impaired as per depreciation and etc) only 309mio, intangible assets( this is like noble fair value gain from contract, an assets which cannot be converted to cash but record its value from business by assumption the value of business) is 2.43bil. So? Avoid after this round bounce. Why? Look at the expenses and profit margin, increase and decrease. Look at debt, increasing. Look at cash flow? Always not enough. So? What next? Cash will be burning continually, debt will be increasing. Then, one day, debt maturity come, what happen? Look at rickmer maritime and noble will do. Again, based on TA, Price should not cross 56 after 60 was set as high after this bounce. If it happen and come down from 56. We will see 40+ again within 6 months. This imply you potentially to lose your money if you buy at 56 or a downtrend from 56. Then next 2-3 years, debt maturity come, a right issue will be expected to be raised at lower price to pay debt. And then, another debt maturity come, a loan restructuring or bankruptcy protection will be filed to dilute further. EB has written another story after noble and Ezion for next 1-2 years. Let's wait and see what will happen for this counter. earlybird2017      ( Date: 15-Jun-2017 07:17) Posted: ExD Liao. See how low will it fall. Shall has some support at 50
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TenPips Veteran	19-Jun-2017 17:16        TenPips About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I will be holding.  feedfrenzy      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:55) Posted: exactly.. got margin of safety also... make me itchy to sell or hold haha anwyay.we shall see TenPips      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:49) Posted: Up 6 pips. Shortists burnt also in this counter.
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feedfrenzy Veteran	19-Jun-2017 16:55        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	exactly.. got margin of safety also... make me itchy to sell or hold haha anwyay.we shall see TenPips      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:49) Posted: Up 6 pips. Shortists burnt also in this counter.
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TenPips Veteran	19-Jun-2017 16:49        TenPips About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Up 6 pips. Shortists burnt also in this counter.
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Morello Veteran	19-Jun-2017 16:34        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hv a good time bro feedfrenzy      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:31) Posted: morello big timer loh a few K dividends. mine isnt so much but good enough for a simple holiday across causeway :p Morello      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:28) Posted: eh...that' s a few thousands for limpeh how to blow away in a weekend ..
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feedfrenzy Veteran	19-Jun-2017 16:31        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	morello big timer loh a few K dividends. mine isnt so much but good enough for a simple holiday across causeway :p Morello      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:28) Posted: eh...that' s a few thousands for limpeh how to blow away in a weekend ... bishan22      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:14) Posted: This long weekend enjoy yourself with the given 0.01625 dividend.....
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Morello Veteran	19-Jun-2017 16:28        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	eh...that' s a few thousands for limpeh how to blow away in a weekend ... bishan22      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:14) Posted: This long weekend enjoy yourself with the given 0.01625 dividend.....
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feedfrenzy Veteran	19-Jun-2017 16:18        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	shiok shiok....... bishan22      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 16:14) Posted: This long weekend enjoy yourself with the given 0.01625 dividend.....
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bishan22 Supreme	19-Jun-2017 16:14        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This long weekend enjoy yourself with the given 0.01625 dividend.....
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DoChun Member	19-Jun-2017 15:46        DoChun About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont need to argue with these ppls.. share drop, hold for dividend.. share rise until u think enough, sell if not hold for next dividend then decide. at least can hold until end of the year..
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TenPips Veteran	19-Jun-2017 14:52        TenPips About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Results will show. Don' t have to quarrel with them. Waste my time only.  junction      ( Date: 19-Jun-2017 14:49) Posted: Just kig out their previous posts over 3-6 months to see how credible they are. TenPips      ( Date: 15-Jun-2017 15:12) Posted: That' s why we must discern which story to read and believe. Because ultimately, it' s our pocket that will be affected.  There may be some who genuinely believe in APTT being a lousy company, because there are articles online that reinforced their views. Those articles published when APTT was below 0.4 can still be used to generate fear and will certainly be used whenever APTT corrects. We must do own own research so that we can stay firm in whichever positions we take in a counter. The strange thing is whenever a counter surges, all good news will be requoted again and again.   When a counter dives, all bad news will be shared. By the time you react to those news, it' s probably too late as trend may be changing. E.g. bad news circulated here when APTT at 0.54 (before XD, equals to 0.52 now). Those who reacted to fear will be dumping it at prob the lowest short-term price.
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