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Infinity Member	23-Feb-2018 17:33        Infinity About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My question here is: if this monkey is currently a shortist, while holding tones of shares in this counter to be able to manipulate the price? could his lost on his sells value covered by his earn in shortist?
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 16:57        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	He struck again... wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 15:55) Posted: We watch together to see whether the monkey exerts his authority later to depress the price further down. Now at 3.38 : 3.39. Its normal if we see 3.35 : 3.36 later. Especially during pre-closing when the manipulation usually occurs.
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 15:55        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We watch together to see whether the monkey exerts his authority later to depress the price further down. Now at 3.38 : 3.39. Its normal if we see 3.35 : 3.36 later. Especially during pre-closing when the manipulation usually occurs.
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SC0369 Member	23-Feb-2018 15:32        SC0369 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you are right if the seller has only one stock and is human. I think the seller is an algorithm who is selling here to buy somewhere else. IT may have sold SingTel and bought DBS or AEM or Hi-P, we dont know. When the algorithm sees no value in other stocks, it will come back here. Overall profit is important to the algorithm, not individual profit or loss. Until it comes back here....zzzzzzzz We are fighting with machines, probably not people. wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 14:51) Posted: Bro... My gutfeel. Based on common sense. And also my past observation of price action in this stock as well as other stocks whenever a stock was sold down and went into a prolonged fall. The common sense part is this : Let' s say I am a seller of scrips I own. I am divesting. I am not SHORTing.    My objective will be to sell at the highest possible price so that I get back more capital for my scrips. I wouldnt want to sell senselessly and crash the price. That wouldnt benefit me. So on a day like today when I see the price rising nicely to 3.41 on the back of Dow rebounding by +164 pts after falling for 2 nites, I should do nothing and let the price bounce higher since sentiments have improved. If I am selling, not SHORTing, the higher the bounce, the better it is for me. Why throw a pail of icy cold water over the bulls by coming out so early at 10.35am to throw down 281.7 lots at the buyers at 3.40 to send the price back down to 3.39 : 3.40 ? Just on Mon, the price rebounded to 3.43 even. As a real seller, wouldnt I want the price to recover back to 3.50 or higher? And let the buying wave gather momentum and grow stronger fed by the greed of investors and traders and I can then join the queue to sell at various levels and distribute slowly when the price is on its way up? Put it another way - what type of monkey dont want to see the price go higher and higher? A Bear Monkey who is divesting and want the best prices for his scrips OR  a Kartek Monkey who has outstanding SHORTs and looking to cover his SHORTs at lower prices ?    KAMAL0883      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 14:06) Posted: Bro how you know this monkey is a short seller ? cannot be a pure seller who sold his/their holding ? Tk
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	23-Feb-2018 15:28        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	k tks for your view.   wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 14:51) Posted: Bro... My gutfeel. Based on common sense. And also my past observation of price action in this stock as well as other stocks whenever a stock was sold down and went into a prolonged fall. The common sense part is this : Let' s say I am a seller of scrips I own. I am divesting. I am not SHORTing.    My objective will be to sell at the highest possible price so that I get back more capital for my scrips. I wouldnt want to sell senselessly and crash the price. That wouldnt benefit me. So on a day like today when I see the price rising nicely to 3.41 on the back of Dow rebounding by +164 pts after falling for 2 nites, I should do nothing and let the price bounce higher since sentiments have improved. If I am selling, not SHORTing, the higher the bounce, the better it is for me. Why throw a pail of icy cold water over the bulls by coming out so early at 10.35am to throw down 281.7 lots at the buyers at 3.40 to send the price back down to 3.39 : 3.40 ? Just on Mon, the price rebounded to 3.43 even. As a real seller, wouldnt I want the price to recover back to 3.50 or higher? And let the buying wave gather momentum and grow stronger fed by the greed of investors and traders and I can then join the queue to sell at various levels and distribute slowly when the price is on its way up? Put it another way - what type of monkey dont want to see the price go higher and higher? A Bear Monkey who is divesting and want the best prices for his scrips OR  a Kartek Monkey who has outstanding SHORTs and looking to cover his SHORTs at lower prices ?    KAMAL0883      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 14:06) Posted: Bro how you know this monkey is a short seller ? cannot be a pure seller who sold his/their holding ? Tk
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 14:51        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro... My gutfeel. Based on common sense. And also my past observation of price action in this stock as well as other stocks whenever a stock was sold down and went into a prolonged fall. The common sense part is this : Let' s say I am a seller of scrips I own. I am divesting. I am not SHORTing.    My objective will be to sell at the highest possible price so that I get back more capital for my scrips. I wouldnt want to sell senselessly and crash the price. That wouldnt benefit me. So on a day like today when I see the price rising nicely to 3.41 on the back of Dow rebounding by +164 pts after falling for 2 nites, I should do nothing and let the price bounce higher since sentiments have improved. If I am selling, not SHORTing, the higher the bounce, the better it is for me. Why throw a pail of icy cold water over the bulls by coming out so early at 10.35am to throw down 281.7 lots at the buyers at 3.40 to send the price back down to 3.39 : 3.40 ? Just on Mon, the price rebounded to 3.43 even. As a real seller, wouldnt I want the price to recover back to 3.50 or higher? And let the buying wave gather momentum and grow stronger fed by the greed of investors and traders and I can then join the queue to sell at various levels and distribute slowly when the price is on its way up? Put it another way - what type of monkey dont want to see the price go higher and higher? A Bear Monkey who is divesting and want the best prices for his scrips OR  a Kartek Monkey who has outstanding SHORTs and looking to cover his SHORTs at lower prices ?    KAMAL0883      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 14:06) Posted: Bro how you know this monkey is a short seller ? cannot be a pure seller who sold his/their holding ? Tks wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 13:56) Posted: On Monday (19 Feb), we saw a nice bounce of 10 cts and she closed at the Day High at 3.43. But the monkey came out to exert his authority the very next day (Tue) and hammered the price back down to close at 3.38...down 5 cts. On Wed, there was another attempt to bounce to touch 3.40 but the monkey couldnt allow a mutiny and he again came out with his baton to hammer the bulls back to their shed to close at 3.37.  Then on Thu, right from the opening bell, the monkey made his presence known by hammering the price down to revisit 3.33 even before any bull could go around to organise a public demonstration. The monkey' s message to everyone was clear. That he is in-charge of this counter. That no rebellion against what he wants to do, will be tolerated. Today, we are seeing a repeat of what we saw on Mon to Thu. Bulls came out from the opening bell this morn and as a result, we had a nice bounce which reached 3.41. But the monkey couldnt allow this group of resistance fighters to gather strength and momentum. Becoz that' s how such things happen in history which led to a great event. First, you have a few people giving speeches to a small crowd. If left unchecked, that crowd grows into a mob. If still left unchecked, that mob grows into a sizeable force. Next you will see public demonstrations and mass gathering of people at town squares and vital government buildings. And with each passing day, more and more people joined the opposition groups to stage public demonstrations. And finally, after a period of unrest and turmoil, a dictator is brought down. We have seen this happening many times throughout history. And it is still happening. Likewise, a Kartek Monkey will not allow bull rebel fighters to gather strength and momentum in their quest for recovery. Becoz if he sits by and do nothing, the price will keep rising and in the stock market, a rising stock is like a magnet. It will draw and lure out more and more bulls from the sidelines to come out to chase it. And if the rise in the stock price triggers a " You BUY, I BUY" phenomenon, everyone including funds, institutional investors, retail investors and traders will all come out to grab for fear of missing the boat. Such a buying wave will then become much too strong for the Kartek Monkey to quell and reverse. That is why he will not allow this to happen. He may allow the price to bounce a little for him to collect more SHORTs at higher prices but he will not allow the price to rise in such a way that it gives birth to a buying wave which will knock him off his feet. As such, whenever we see a bounce...even a bounce of 10 cts and it is greeted after that by a spate of selldowns to hammer the price back into the monkey' s comfort zone, this price action is consistent with the theory that the monkey is not done with his SHORTing Expedition yet. Now at 3.37 : 3.38.
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	23-Feb-2018 14:06        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro how you know this monkey is a short seller ? cannot be a pure seller who sold his/their holding ? Tks wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 13:56) Posted: On Monday (19 Feb), we saw a nice bounce of 10 cts and she closed at the Day High at 3.43. But the monkey came out to exert his authority the very next day (Tue) and hammered the price back down to close at 3.38...down 5 cts. On Wed, there was another attempt to bounce to touch 3.40 but the monkey couldnt allow a mutiny and he again came out with his baton to hammer the bulls back to their shed to close at 3.37.  Then on Thu, right from the opening bell, the monkey made his presence known by hammering the price down to revisit 3.33 even before any bull could go around to organise a public demonstration. The monkey' s message to everyone was clear. That he is in-charge of this counter. That no rebellion against what he wants to do, will be tolerated. Today, we are seeing a repeat of what we saw on Mon to Thu. Bulls came out from the opening bell this morn and as a result, we had a nice bounce which reached 3.41. But the monkey couldnt allow this group of resistance fighters to gather strength and momentum. Becoz that' s how such things happen in history which led to a great event. First, you have a few people giving speeches to a small crowd. If left unchecked, that crowd grows into a mob. If still left unchecked, that mob grows into a sizeable force. Next you will see public demonstrations and mass gathering of people at town squares and vital government buildings. And with each passing day, more and more people joined the opposition groups to stage public demonstrations. And finally, after a period of unrest and turmoil, a dictator is brought down. We have seen this happening many times throughout history. And it is still happening. Likewise, a Kartek Monkey will not allow bull rebel fighters to gather strength and momentum in their quest for recovery. Becoz if he sits by and do nothing, the price will keep rising and in the stock market, a rising stock is like a magnet. It will draw and lure out more and more bulls from the sidelines to come out to chase it. And if the rise in the stock price triggers a " You BUY, I BUY" phenomenon, everyone including funds, institutional investors, retail investors and traders will all come out to grab for fear of missing the boat. Such a buying wave will then become much too strong for the Kartek Monkey to quell and reverse. That is why he will not allow this to happen. He may allow the price to bounce a little for him to collect more SHORTs at higher prices but he will not allow the price to rise in such a way that it gives birth to a buying wave which will knock him off his feet. As such, whenever we see a bounce...even a bounce of 10 cts and it is greeted after that by a spate of selldowns to hammer the price back into the monkey' s comfort zone, this price action is consistent with the theory that the monkey is not done with his SHORTing Expedition yet. Now at 3.37 : 3.38.
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 13:56        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	On Monday (19 Feb), we saw a nice bounce of 10 cts and she closed at the Day High at 3.43. But the monkey came out to exert his authority the very next day (Tue) and hammered the price back down to close at 3.38...down 5 cts. On Wed, there was another attempt to bounce to touch 3.40 but the monkey couldnt allow a mutiny and he again came out with his baton to hammer the bulls back to their shed to close at 3.37.  Then on Thu, right from the opening bell, the monkey made his presence known by hammering the price down to revisit 3.33 even before any bull could go around to organise a public demonstration. The monkey' s message to everyone was clear. That he is in-charge of this counter. That no rebellion against what he wants to do, will be tolerated. Today, we are seeing a repeat of what we saw on Mon to Thu. Bulls came out from the opening bell this morn and as a result, we had a nice bounce which reached 3.41. But the monkey couldnt allow this group of resistance fighters to gather strength and momentum. Becoz that' s how such things happen in history which led to a great event. First, you have a few people giving speeches to a small crowd. If left unchecked, that crowd grows into a mob. If still left unchecked, that mob grows into a sizeable force. Next you will see public demonstrations and mass gathering of people at town squares and vital government buildings. And with each passing day, more and more people joined the opposition groups to stage public demonstrations. And finally, after a period of unrest and turmoil, a dictator is brought down. We have seen this happening many times throughout history. And it is still happening. Likewise, a Kartek Monkey will not allow bull rebel fighters to gather strength and momentum in their quest for recovery. Becoz if he sits by and do nothing, the price will keep rising and in the stock market, a rising stock is like a magnet. It will draw and lure out more and more bulls from the sidelines to come out to chase it. And if the rise in the stock price triggers a " You BUY, I BUY" phenomenon, everyone including funds, institutional investors, retail investors and traders will all come out to grab for fear of missing the boat. Such a buying wave will then become much too strong for the Kartek Monkey to quell and reverse. That is why he will not allow this to happen. He may allow the price to bounce a little for him to collect more SHORTs at higher prices but he will not allow the price to rise in such a way that it gives birth to a buying wave which will knock him off his feet. As such, whenever we see a bounce...even a bounce of 10 cts and it is greeted after that by a spate of selldowns to hammer the price back into the monkey' s comfort zone, this price action is consistent with the theory that the monkey is not done with his SHORTing Expedition yet. Now at 3.37 : 3.38.
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allent Master	23-Feb-2018 13:34        allent About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	let' s see if it will go below 3.20  wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 13:15) Posted: Yes, bro Ah Long Ker, Many of our Siong Tee Jia Mei have also been waiting and waiting until all our necks are longer than theirs ler.   fightingdragons      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 12:32) Posted: Thanks for the daily monitoring! Vested at 3.6... waiting to average down
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 13:15        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, bro Ah Long Ker, Many of our Siong Tee Jia Mei have also been waiting and waiting until all our necks are longer than theirs ler.   fightingdragons      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 12:32) Posted: Thanks for the daily monitoring! Vested at 3.6... waiting to average down. wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 11:09) Posted: Speak of the Chow monkey...
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fightingdragons Member	23-Feb-2018 12:32        fightingdragons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks for the daily monitoring! Vested at 3.6... waiting to average down. wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 11:09) Posted: Speak of the Chow monkey...
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TenPips Veteran	23-Feb-2018 11:55        TenPips About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you. Waited very long already...since 3.70 - 3.80.
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 11:50        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oooops !!!    Actually can wait since she is going nowhere meantime. But since you already undressed yourself and has gotten into the hot pool ... then all the best to you !!! TenPips      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 11:34) Posted: Just joined you guys to long at 3.38. Huat!
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 11:39        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Kamal bro... You said... " ...as long as Wall Street never crash within the next few days/weeks/months..."     Some market watchers and fund managers believe that there will be one final last leg down to end the correction.  This last leg down will end slightly lower than the Previous Low registered when Dow fell by more than -1000 pts twice within 3 days some two weeks ago. Read this... If you were planning on putting your money back into stocks, you might want to hold on. That' s the message from Nader Naeimi of AMP Capital Investors Ltd. who' s still hanging on to the bulk of his cash reserves for another possible selloff by March. After an initial sharp selloff, equity markets typically have a brief recovery before another bout of sustained selling, said Naeimi, AMP' s head of dynamic markets who helps oversee about $120 billion at the firm. After moving some 30 percent of his assets  to cash  last year, Naeimi is waiting for that second round to occur before jumping back in. " The plan is to buy in the second leg down, usually it' s best to wait for the markets to build a base before committing heavily back into the buy side" , Naeimi said in an interview  with Bloomberg Television.  " As we go to the Fed meeting March 9, I think there will be more potential volatility weakness."       Still, Naeimi is dipping his toes back into the stock market and has started returning to some cyclical positions including energy, financials and Japanese equities. He is also impressed by the resilience of emerging market stocks and currencies during the rout and rising volatility.         " That' s a great sign" , he said. " So this weakness, we' re using that weakness to buy into emerging market equities as well."
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TenPips Veteran	23-Feb-2018 11:34        TenPips About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just joined you guys to long at 3.38. Huat!
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 11:16        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Your HUAT well wishes...in order to come true must come with a nice HUAT picture. Look at her mouth.  Her lips are in sync with her shouting ........... " HUAT Arrrrrr !!!!!!!!" SuperLuckyCorn      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 10:53) Posted: Good to hear that..we love u too. With General wave & others, may all of us Huat & Huat big big.    tanweiming_      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 10:13) Posted: Because I love you all, that' s why I didn' t sell away LOL. Actually is order not filled that' s why lol
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	23-Feb-2018 11:13        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ya hor .... but dun worry the big lots also makan by big funds wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 11:09) Posted: Speak of the Chow monkey...
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	23-Feb-2018 11:12        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	short term 3.50  long term no one know .... who would know Don' t Bull Shit ( DBS ) price can go higher than UOB otherwise the righit issue in year 2009 at $6++ will hold till now liao Shampain      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 11:04) Posted: 3.50 only? siao liao loh...  selldown big lots found. This general wave keep reminding BB to sell tsk tsk Just kidding KAMAL0883      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 10:57) Posted: thanks  sell down big lots but there' re also buy up big lots otherwise the price would hv collaped like SMM liao as long as Wall Street nvr crash within next few days/weeks/months think ST can go back to 3.50 or above... p.s. Wall Street eventually will crash just duno when only
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wavehunter Supreme	23-Feb-2018 11:09        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Speak of the Chow monkey...
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canalrat Member	23-Feb-2018 11:07        canalrat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I bought at 3.69 last Nov and am staring at a paper loss of almost $2k. Definitely waiting eagerly for that u-turn to come! Or at least Im hoping there will still be a dividend run eventually leading up to August wavehunter      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 10:45) Posted: Then just hold and wait for her U-turn. Do not despair. This company makes close to $1 bn every quarter. Not many companies in the STI can do that. Only the banks can. Even a high tech company like ST Engrg makes only $511.9m for one whole year. But  SingTel makes $890m in just  one quarter. So what is there to worry about? SingTel is not like Noble or Ezion. If you are vested in these two, then you are in a house which is still burning and on fire. But you are in SingTel... a company which is majority owned by Temasek Holdings. Having said how solid a company SingTel is, the stark reality of this game is - when a monkey buys your stock, your stock will rise. When a monkey sells, your stock will languish. Why is the monkey selling is totally irrelevant and none of our business. The why is not important. The fact that he is selling, is. And it is all that matters. Wait for him to stop selling. Dont buy meantime. Becoz if he is still selling, whatever you buy will not rise. When you buy, you are merely adding anguish to yourself. Would you cross the road if you see an elephant stampede coming your way? Ofcoz not. You stand aside first and wait for the stampede to pass you by.    There is a monkey and he is selling. He has been selling for weeks already. Whether it is the same monkey selling or more than one monkey coming in...in succession to sell, that... we can all debate and argue until the cows come home. But there is a monkey selling. Over the last few days, I posted all his selldown trades in big lots. Yesterday he was still selling. But today...I havent seen him yet. Whether he is really done or whether he stood aside to allow the price to rise so that he can resume selling at higher prices, that...we will have to wait and see what the price action is like from now till end of day. Becoz he stopped selling, we have a nice rebound this morning to a HIGH of 3.41. Then one selldown trade of 281.7 lots at 3.40 brought the price back down to 3.39 : 3.40. It is still too early at this stage to declare that the selling monkey has left the room. He may still be at the driver' s seat. Let' s watch the price action together to see whether there are any more selldown trades in big lots to hammer the price back to 3.35 : 3.36.  tanweiming_      ( Date: 23-Feb-2018 10:13) Posted: Because I love you all, that' s why I didn' t sell away LOL. Actually is order not filled that' s why lol
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