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Secret_Squirrel Elite	05-Nov-2019 08:45        Secret_Squirrel About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Stay curious but skeptical"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://investor.eagleht.com/news.html/id/742933 can open and view it at their company website. married deal of 12,800,000 stapled security. lailai      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 08:21) Posted: Anybody manage to open latest announcement ytd evening by Eagle regarding change of interest of ssh. Appreciate if can share. Thks.
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lailai Elite	05-Nov-2019 08:45        lailai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks for the info. Looks really bad currently.  The sshs are the ones that seem to be causing the panic.  Even QIAN whose holding is less than 10% is also cashing out. How can retailers cash in in small volumes, when sshs are cashing out in huge volumes. CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 21:30) Posted: SGX web could not download. Got it from Eagle website :- QIAN JIANRONG let go of 12,800,000 shares for USD7,040,000 on 31/10. From 7.53% to 6.06%. raptor87      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 21:19) Posted: Anybody able to download the Disclosure of Interest form for EHT posted on SGX at 5.20 pm today? It keeps opening a new tab and couldn' t view the pdf. Wonder who sold today.
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 08:28        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Pls see my post last night at 21.30. lailai      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 08:21) Posted: Anybody manage to open latest announcement ytd evening by Eagle regarding change of interest of ssh. Appreciate if can share. Thks.
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lailai Elite	05-Nov-2019 08:21        lailai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anybody manage to open latest announcement ytd evening by Eagle regarding change of interest of ssh. Appreciate if can share. Thks.
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Goldfinger Supreme	05-Nov-2019 08:15        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Actually - these are very large married deals. Do we know who is buying the other side?
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Sgvale Supreme	05-Nov-2019 07:47        Sgvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Crucial if substantial shareholders stop paring down their holdings.
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 01:07        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not easy to find willing partners with such kind of sentiment. For me better just watch the drama for now......., yet another sub-plot. raptor87      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 00:11) Posted: I hope the CEO and management team are persuading the large shareholders to seek married trades in order to pare their stake to less than 10% so as not to affect market sentiment further.
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 01:02        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, it meant Yuans, etc will have to sell down to 10pct. So price will be weak as they sell at lower & lower price. raptor87      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 00:05) Posted: " Non-U.S. Stapled Securityholders should comply with the Portfolio Interest Exemption Limit, that is, they should not directly or indirectly own 10% or more of the outstanding Stapled Securities, in order for them to be able to claim the Portfolio Interest Exemption." This is perhaps another reason why they are taking the opportunity to pare their stake.  If that is indeed the case, then perhaps there could be a let-up on the selling soon.  CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 00:00) Posted: Think if below 10pct holding not affected. In this case because of under-subscription, they ended up with more than 10pct. Eagle Web there is some info on taxation, mentioning 10 pct. Not sure if substantial holders of other US reits own more than 10pct or not.
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raptor87 Member	05-Nov-2019 00:11        raptor87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I hope the CEO and management team are persuading the large shareholders to seek married trades in order to pare their stake to less than 10% so as not to affect market sentiment further.
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raptor87 Member	05-Nov-2019 00:05        raptor87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	" Non-U.S. Stapled Securityholders should comply with the Portfolio Interest Exemption Limit, that is, they should not directly or indirectly own 10% or more of the outstanding Stapled Securities, in order for them to be able to claim the Portfolio Interest Exemption." This is perhaps another reason why they are taking the opportunity to pare their stake.  If that is indeed the case, then perhaps there could be a let-up on the selling soon.  CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 00:00) Posted: Think if below 10pct holding not affected. In this case because of under-subscription, they ended up with more than 10pct. Eagle Web there is some info on taxation, mentioning 10 pct. Not sure if substantial holders of other US reits own more than 10pct or not. raptor87      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:43) Posted: If it was tax, then similar SGX-listed US Reits would have sold off too, won' t it? They use a similar structure to avoid investors having to pay tax.
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 00:00        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Think if below 10pct holding not affected. In this case because of under-subscription, they ended up with more than 10pct. Eagle Web there is some info on taxation, mentioning 10 pct. Not sure if substantial holders of other US reits own more than 10pct or not. raptor87      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:43) Posted: If it was tax, then similar SGX-listed US Reits would have sold off too, won' t it? They use a similar structure to avoid investors having to pay tax.   CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:29) Posted: I read a blog, the blogger said that it may be due to tax, but he could not confirm. Coulden remember which blogger. Understand the withholding tax is 30pct. If the Ipo was fully subscribed, the story will be totally different. It was because the Singapore investors were spooked by QM & only subscribed to 40%, thus available shares were re-allocated to these big players. We retail investors are quite smart & discerning to avoid this Ipo.
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uk1234 Member	04-Nov-2019 23:57        uk1234 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	that' s why we discount it 50%. so now is closer to 90% to " real book value" .  But seriously, 50% off current valuation, however inflated it is, is really the limit already.  Further down beyond this is clearly fraud level. uiop1223      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:49) Posted: Not sure if we can use the p/b to view this as attractive since it was sold at premium to eagle trust.. wonder where are the analysts now?
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uk1234 Member	04-Nov-2019 23:53        uk1234 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	> that is very scary alamak why scared.  it' s a *married* trade.  for all you know, he sells to a friend to hold it for him.    you want conspiricy theory ? I give you one even bigge one: if you notice, there are frequent *married trades* at intra day with  *low price* compared to prevaling bid/offer.  It' s almost as if the married trade is trying to scare retail investor into believing there are real sellers, and so all the bids start to vanish and price went down after that.    So theoretically chinaman didn' t make any real loss, he sell left hand to right hand at whatever price, but retail scared, all panic sell down, like now. 50% P/B for a reit makes no sense.  Then later after price collases, they can go in and buy back easily.  disclaimer: above my own imagination only, it' s totally illegal.  I just wanted to highlight many of these SSH trades are *married* trades.  Do your own interpretation and DD. m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:18) Posted: a long term investor,  his horizon is 5 years or longer to sell in few months ??? that is very scary m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:12) Posted: by the way, this kind of investor never sell at lousy pric
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uiop1223 Supreme	04-Nov-2019 23:49        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not sure if we can use the p/b to view this as attractive since it was sold at premium to eagle trust.. wonder where are the analysts now?
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raptor87 Member	04-Nov-2019 23:43        raptor87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If it was tax, then similar SGX-listed US Reits would have sold off too, won' t it? They use a similar structure to avoid investors having to pay tax.   CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:29) Posted: I read a blog, the blogger said that it may be due to tax, but he could not confirm. Coulden remember which blogger. Understand the withholding tax is 30pct. If the Ipo was fully subscribed, the story will be totally different. It was because the Singapore investors were spooked by QM & only subscribed to 40%, thus available shares were re-allocated to these big players. We retail investors are quite smart & discerning to avoid this Ipo. m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:18) Posted: a long term investor,  his horizon is 5 years or longer to sell in few months ??? that is very scar
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raptor87 Member	04-Nov-2019 23:37        raptor87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If there was real price manipulation from the Chinese, they would take loads of short sell position and then use real money to buy after retailers exit. But short interest, as is reported by SGX, is very low.  Conspiracy theories aside, its seems to be just big panic selling from retailers.
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Goldfinger Supreme	04-Nov-2019 23:37        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wait a bit more first to buy - I am waiting now for 39 cents to enter bigger lots.
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	04-Nov-2019 23:29        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I read a blog, the blogger said that it may be due to tax, but he could not confirm. Coulden remember which blogger. Understand the withholding tax is 30pct. If the Ipo was fully subscribed, the story will be totally different. It was because the Singapore investors were spooked by QM & only subscribed to 40%, thus available shares were re-allocated to these big players. We retail investors are quite smart & discerning to avoid this Ipo. m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:18) Posted: a long term investor,  his horizon is 5 years or longer to sell in few months ??? that is very scary m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:12) Posted: by the way, this kind of investor never sell at lousy pric
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m2d4pc Senior	04-Nov-2019 23:18        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	a long term investor,  his horizon is 5 years or longer to sell in few months ??? that is very scary m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:12) Posted: by the way, this kind of investor never sell at lousy price m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:10) Posted: base on your info provided on his background but need to verify the info first He never have to sell any stock at all this kind of investor will only buy, never sell
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m2d4pc Senior	04-Nov-2019 23:12        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	by the way, this kind of investor never sell at lousy price m2d4pc      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:10) Posted: base on your info provided on his background but need to verify the info first He never have to sell any stock at all this kind of investor will only buy, never sell   raptor87      ( Date: 04-Nov-2019 23:04) Posted: He just pared 1.5% of his stake in a married trade. If desparately, probably just sell in open market already
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