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ss2017. Supreme	13-Oct-2023 06:38        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I wish emailpeter prediction will come true. After price appreciation of 20% from 36c plus given 2.5c div for three years, we shall arrive at 50c as well. Maybe I prefer YZJFH to be delisted, return us 70% of NAV, at the original listing peak price, is my dream.
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emailpeter Veteran	12-Oct-2023 23:50        emailpeter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good to see YZJFH stabilised now with very limited downside. The impatient grumpy ones here were those who either sold out of YZJSH and loaded here. Or came in too early during listing, deluded by fundamentals of 1.08 or 1.5x PBV, or CAGR to 2.80 ......  Given that YZJSH has mildly corrected to 1.56, giving all shareholders a substantial gain, choices aplenty. SH 1.55 can easily gain 20% to 1.86. So can FH at 0.35 gain 20% to 0.42. Both equal chance to me, but I side SH a bit more as it had touched that, and has a solid much lower risk cash cow. This FH property and political risk is real, hit our pockets hard. And will continue to overhang for next 3 years minimum. Any big solid buyer will sideline for years to see thru its track record, then we will see a SH like forceful push upwards.... My gut feeling is if this doesn' t occur next 3 years, Ren might well use his SH might and divs to privatise FH. Take out the cash and plough it back to next China financial upswing. Will we get at least 0.50 MBO ? lets hope so....   HVRRVH      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 15:31) Posted: Have to say quite happy with the amount of YZJF I have now and the way price is holding, plus management posture regarding SBB as well as visibility in dividend policy and may I add, reasonable business prospects going forward. In my view it is advantageous to be net cash for YZJF now as they can pounce if and when opportunities arises. Today SGD 6-month Tbill yield already dropped. If recovery take hold in China, YZJF can start reaping good prices for collaterals held in hands. The management also exhibited patience now as compare to early days of SBB, in the past, they would tried to makan the ?asked? and benefited the sellers who were eager to let go. Now, they always wait patiently at ?bid? as if to say ok, you want to let go make sure you don?t earn much. Yes these freeloaders who got 1:1 still earned! YZJF is so kind that giving 1:1 and let all these big funds benefited especially YZJS has been trading above $1.5 for some time now. No wonder all these funds have been selling with impunity! Never mind, patience is a virtue and even though I am quite happy with the amount of shares I have now, seeing these funds may still sell down and management responds which show they know what they are doing, I have decided to queue another trance at 34.5. Waiting behind SBB and let?s see what happen.
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sgng123 Supreme	12-Oct-2023 19:46        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China impose capital control on brokerage firms in china meaning cannot take in new customers for investing overseas. hopefully would not impact yzjfh liquidity pool scheme.
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volvo125 Master	12-Oct-2023 19:27        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At every price point, there will be people selling or wanting to sell and people buying or wanting to buy.  Value is in the eyes of the beholders depending on their value system and belief. Most people are hardwired to sell when the stock exhibits weakness or decline and rush in to buy when the stock exhibits strength and rising. I think most algorithm are also written in this way. YFH highly busllish technical posture was forcefully bashed down in the past 2 weeks+, at very low trading volume some more, and the chart now projects only weakness. The Golden Cross happened just 2 days ago on 10 Oct but there have been no fireworks till now except more selldown which YFH SBB had fully absorbed, and an artificial Ask Wall of 4mil+ to curb any advance beyond 0.355. The price today is still suppressed below all the key moving avberages except the 100d, and all the major technical indicators MACD, ADX and Stochastic are forced into the oversold zone or negatively placed.  So for most traders and algorithms who are ignorant of fundamentals and buy sell only looking at chart or price action, they will either sell or short YFH now.   stonkmaster      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 19:07) Posted: Until now still got people or robots want to sell so cheap? volvo125      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 19:06) Posted: YFH again absorbed all the pathetic 9.3k @0.35 selldown today.
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stonkmaster Veteran	12-Oct-2023 19:07        stonkmaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Until now still got people or robots want to sell so cheap? volvo125      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 19:06) Posted: YFH again absorbed all the pathetic 9.3k @0.35 selldown today.
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volvo125 Master	12-Oct-2023 19:06        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	YFH again absorbed all the pathetic 9.3k @0.35 selldown today.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	12-Oct-2023 16:14        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 4  Alert Admin	Next year should be happier. Trade with expectation and DYODD HVRRVH      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 15:31) Posted: Have to say quite happy with the amount of YZJF I have now and the way price is holding, plus management posture regarding SBB as well as visibility in dividend policy and may I add, reasonable business prospects going forward. In my view it is advantageous to be net cash for YZJF now as they can pounce if and when opportunities arises. Today SGD 6-month Tbill yield already dropped. If recovery take hold in China, YZJF can start reaping good prices for collaterals held in hands. The management also exhibited patience now as compare to early days of SBB, in the past, they would tried to makan the ?asked? and benefited the sellers who were eager to let go. Now, they always wait patiently at ?bid? as if to say ok, you want to let go make sure you don?t earn much. Yes these freeloaders who got 1:1 still earned! YZJF is so kind that giving 1:1 and let all these big funds benefited especially YZJS has been trading above $1.5 for some time now. No wonder all these funds have been selling with impunity! Never mind, patience is a virtue and even though I am quite happy with the amount of shares I have now, seeing these funds may still sell down and management responds which show they know what they are doing, I have decided to queue another trance at 34.5. Waiting behind SBB and let?s see what happen.
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HVRRVH Elite	12-Oct-2023 15:31        HVRRVH About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Have to say quite happy with the amount of YZJF I have now and the way price is holding, plus management posture regarding SBB as well as visibility in dividend policy and may I add, reasonable business prospects going forward. In my view it is advantageous to be net cash for YZJF now as they can pounce if and when opportunities arises. Today SGD 6-month Tbill yield already dropped. If recovery take hold in China, YZJF can start reaping good prices for collaterals held in hands. The management also exhibited patience now as compare to early days of SBB, in the past, they would tried to makan the ?asked? and benefited the sellers who were eager to let go. Now, they always wait patiently at ?bid? as if to say ok, you want to let go make sure you don?t earn much. Yes these freeloaders who got 1:1 still earned! YZJF is so kind that giving 1:1 and let all these big funds benefited especially YZJS has been trading above $1.5 for some time now. No wonder all these funds have been selling with impunity! Never mind, patience is a virtue and even though I am quite happy with the amount of shares I have now, seeing these funds may still sell down and management responds which show they know what they are doing, I have decided to queue another trance at 34.5. Waiting behind SBB and let?s see what happen.
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Segarvale Senior	12-Oct-2023 12:04        Segarvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CFD, you pit against the broker house. No actual share involved usually so there wun be transaction volume shown in sgx. So when you short sell in CFD, another player buy up, they earn the spread difference, or commission fee. That is the best scenario for them. Likewise, they also earn the daily interest on your leverage, be it long or short. So end of the day, if there is any huge unmatched transactions from the buy and sell, either they eat themselves or they will buy from actual market to minimise their risk.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	12-Oct-2023 12:00        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 4  Alert Admin	No buying interest for days to come. Trade with awareness and DYODD
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volvo125 Master	12-Oct-2023 11:25        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The trade is on the price movement and difference. There is no physical shares transaction, it' s a contract between 2 parties on the price difference, you and someone. So who is this someone or the counterparty ? The counterparty is not the broker (eg, Phillips Sec) right?  pkli899      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 10:53) Posted: Yes, CFD - Contract For Differences is trading the differences in price movement. Brokers offering this service would require u to deposit a sum and u can trade on leverage, mostly 10 times of the money u put in with them. U can hold your position as long as the money with them is enough to cover the daily interest charge. If not eough, u top up lor. To play safe, use one third to trade, one third set aside for paying interest, one third as spare for any necessary action may be needed to take. Say u put in 300k, technically, u can trade 3m worth of shares but nobody will do that. Usually, trade up to 1m only. Not any one can open CFD account. There are quite stringent criterias to be met before u can do so. High risk, high gain, if u r sophisticated and disciplined enough. pursuer76      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 09:21) Posted: My understanding of CFD is the investor is buying the price movement, not the shares. Hence, it doesn' t affect the share price.
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pkli899 Supreme	12-Oct-2023 10:53        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, CFD - Contract For Differences is trading the differences in price movement. Brokers offering this service would require u to deposit a sum and u can trade on leverage, mostly 10 times of the money u put in with them. U can hold your position as long as the money with them is enough to cover the daily interest charge. If not eough, u top up lor. To play safe, use one third to trade, one third set aside for paying interest, one third as spare for any necessary action may be needed to take. Say u put in 300k, technically, u can trade 3m worth of shares but nobody will do that. Usually, trade up to 1m only. Not any one can open CFD account. There are quite stringent criterias to be met before u can do so. High risk, high gain, if u r sophisticated and disciplined enough. pursuer76      ( Date: 12-Oct-2023 09:21) Posted: My understanding of CFD is the investor is buying the price movement, not the shares. Hence, it doesn' t affect the share price.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	12-Oct-2023 10:15        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 3  Alert Admin	For those who haven't bought yet? Buy 35 or lower for best deal. Just queue and wait for next year. Trade with 5% dividend and DYODD stonkmaster      ( Date: 11-Oct-2023 22:45) Posted: Why got people still want sell down? volvo125      ( Date: 11-Oct-2023 19:05) Posted: SBB 1.1513mil @0.35 today. YFH fully absorbed the entire 0.35 sell down volume today with SBB.
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pursuer76 Veteran	12-Oct-2023 09:21        pursuer76 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My understanding of CFD is the investor is buying the price movement, not the shares. Hence, it doesn' t affect the share price.
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ss2017. Supreme	12-Oct-2023 06:46        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree. CFD is very established here. Let say they sell at 35.5 hope to buy back at 35. If this price fails them, they can buy at 35.5 to cover back. sgng123      ( Date: 11-Oct-2023 23:42) Posted: Cos sgx is shorting exchange, can only make money through shorting lol.
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sgng123 Supreme	11-Oct-2023 23:42        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cos sgx is shorting exchange, can only make money through shorting lol.
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stonkmaster Veteran	11-Oct-2023 22:45        stonkmaster About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why got people still want sell down? volvo125      ( Date: 11-Oct-2023 19:05) Posted: SBB 1.1513mil @0.35 today. YFH fully absorbed the entire 0.35 sell down volume today with SBB.
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ss2017. Supreme	11-Oct-2023 19:17        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am optimistic. With SBB continue supporting the low share price, the next price level I wish to see is 36c, breaking 36c should be good news, let's see it at next Friday mkt closing price. Be patient. https://ibb.co/PhRGLqn
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volvo125 Master	11-Oct-2023 19:05        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SBB 1.1513mil @0.35 today. YFH fully absorbed the entire 0.35 sell down volume today with SBB.
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sgng123 Supreme	11-Oct-2023 11:41        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Stick with 5+% dividend valuation. But currently there uncertainty on 2h earning so market can only give valuation on 1h result. Current trading range 0.35 -0.36 is around 5% yiekd valuation based off 2022 dividend 0.018 To see higher valuation, 2h result need to be good and no npl provision.
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