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NT1825 Master	13-May-2020 08:59        NT1825 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	From today, buyers or sellers already agreed to pay 3.00 each. No more persuasion required 4.00 is a good price. My feel is that it may go to 3.33.....dyodd commoner      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:49) Posted: omg... how come price getting lower and lower?
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uiop1223 Supreme	13-May-2020 08:57        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes. I nv say SIA will collapse. I just say short SIA lighter87      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:56) Posted: Sia will still survive, just that shareholders are screwed big time commoner      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:54) Posted: wah lao... no good leh... this is pride of singapore leh... SIA leh.... no eyes see
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lighter87 Master	13-May-2020 08:57        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I believe you are looking at Mcb price. Rights are at 1 dollar now uiop1223      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:55) Posted: The rights are so cheap. Pay $3 + $0.003 = $3.003 If SIA price continues to be $4.2, those who bought rights and subscribe to the shares will dump once the rights shares converted to common for trading in june right? That why i say this temesek rescue is different from olam or keppel
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lighter87 Master	13-May-2020 08:56        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sia will still survive, just that shareholders are screwed big time commoner      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:54) Posted: wah lao... no good leh... this is pride of singapore leh... SIA leh.... no eyes see. lighter87      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:53) Posted: Means market expect the mothershare to drop furthe
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halleluyah Supreme	13-May-2020 08:55        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	must hv a holding power fr abt 2yrs if want to long...low can be lower...next q expect big loss...if not look fr better counter n can sleep well...dyodd...
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uiop1223 Supreme	13-May-2020 08:55        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The rights are so cheap. Pay $3 + $0.003 = $3.003 If SIA price continues to be $4.2, those who bought rights and subscribe to the shares will dump once the rights shares converted to common for trading in june right? That why i say this temesek rescue is different from olam or keppel
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commoner Senior	13-May-2020 08:54        commoner About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "I cannot post anymore... Dont come to my thread!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah lao... no good leh... this is pride of singapore leh... SIA leh.... no eyes see. lighter87      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:53) Posted: Means market expect the mothershare to drop further commoner      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:49) Posted: omg... how come price getting lower and lower?
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lighter87 Master	13-May-2020 08:53        lighter87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Means market expect the mothershare to drop further commoner      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:49) Posted: omg... how come price getting lower and lower?
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commoner Senior	13-May-2020 08:49        commoner About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "I cannot post anymore... Dont come to my thread!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	omg... how come price getting lower and lower?
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uiop1223 Supreme	13-May-2020 08:43        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oh my.. the rights are trading so cheaply. Existing shareholders are screwed. Those yet to enter and want SIA, can consider buying the rights and then subscribe to the shares
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stanleytay Master	13-May-2020 08:30        stanleytay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Do you know if Temasek didnt step in for olam.. it will end up like noble? Noble didnt manage to attract any white knight. The truth is money talks.. esp big money. Choose your side wisely. Have a good trading session uiop1223      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:25) Posted: Olam is different. Temsaek offer a premium to buy more stake in the company. This support share price. We saw the same impact for keppel corp when the offer was announced. The unfortunate thing for keppel is that this process is complicated and needs to clear A - Z regulatory process. But SIA is different. It akin to a bailout. Temasek is pumping money to keep SIA alive. The strategy here is different. More cash to SIA while dilution of shares resulting in value destruction to shareholders. I will not short SIA if Temesak offers say $7.50 to shareholders in order to become a bigger shareholder, similar to olam and keppel. There is no dilution of shares for olam and keppel
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uiop1223 Supreme	13-May-2020 08:25        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Olam is different. Temsaek offer a premium to buy more stake in the company. This support share price. We saw the same impact for keppel corp when the offer was announced. The unfortunate thing for keppel is that this process is complicated and needs to clear A - Z regulatory process. But SIA is different. It akin to a bailout. Temasek is pumping money to keep SIA alive. The strategy here is different. More cash to SIA while dilution of shares resulting in value destruction to shareholders. I will not short SIA if Temesak offers say $7.50 to shareholders in order to become a bigger shareholder, similar to olam and keppel. There is no dilution of shares for olam and keppel
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stanleytay Master	13-May-2020 08:19        stanleytay About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Your view do make sense but do rem who is your opponent here when you try to short. Its true that SIA is in bad shape now, if not Temasek wont step in and hence rights issue.This is similar to Olam, when you fight against big money.. even you have the facts right, it doesnt mean the stock may go your way. uiop1223      ( Date: 13-May-2020 08:12) Posted: China airlines dont do hedging... which in turns may become a natural hedge? When they dont fly, they dont use oil SIA was greedy. It wanted to earn more profits. It was hit by raising oil prices earlier and wanted to earn more profit by managing costs. Turn out the hedge become more costly 🤣 It got greedy and enter into long term hedge on a volatile commodity - oil. Is this smart? So SIA deserve it. The mtgm who approved such strategy must be accountable and suffer big pay cuts https://www.straitstimes.com/business/sia-bets-on-oil-prices-going-up-as-it-extends-fuel-hedging Clearly they are taking a view that oil prices will gradually go up," said Maybank Investment Bank analyst Mohshin Aziz. "It's out of their norm as they usually do it 18 months forward. I don't think it's a bad move." SIA, which is battling overcapacity and aggressive pricing by budget airlines in the region, is seeking to cut costs as passenger yields - a key measure of profitability in the industry - continue to be under stress. Jet fuel accounted for 26 per cent of the company's total expenditure last quarter, making it the single biggest cost.
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TA_Expert Supreme	13-May-2020 08:12        TA_Expert About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "The World has changed"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why would existing shareholders subscribe the rights and MCB? Leave it to Temasek, the biggest shareholder. She has already mentioned that if there is no taker for the rights / MCB, she will take up all of them. Leave it to Temasek to save SIA. No point doing DCA for existing shareholders.
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NT1825 Master	13-May-2020 08:12        NT1825 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The question is how much one willing to pay, considering all facts on the state of the company. Some also added should the price be compared with others airlines nearby China, HK, Thailand. uiop1223      ( Date: 13-May-2020 01:21) Posted: They can sell the rights in the mkt NT1825      ( Date: 12-May-2020 20:51) Posted: The signs are showing today ??. Bank counter fall 3.2% From tomorrow 9am, buyers or sellers of rights have no other option but to exercise the rights share. Giving up simply means throwing away $ (4.40-3.00) per share
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uiop1223 Supreme	13-May-2020 08:12        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China airlines dont do hedging... which in turns may become a natural hedge? When they dont fly, they dont use oil SIA was greedy. It wanted to earn more profits. It was hit by raising oil prices earlier and wanted to earn more profit by managing costs. Turn out the hedge become more costly 🤣 It got greedy and enter into long term hedge on a volatile commodity - oil. Is this smart? So SIA deserve it. The mtgm who approved such strategy must be accountable and suffer big pay cuts https://www.straitstimes.com/business/sia-bets-on-oil-prices-going-up-as-it-extends-fuel-hedging Clearly they are taking a view that oil prices will gradually go up," said Maybank Investment Bank analyst Mohshin Aziz. "It's out of their norm as they usually do it 18 months forward. I don't think it's a bad move." SIA, which is battling overcapacity and aggressive pricing by budget airlines in the region, is seeking to cut costs as passenger yields - a key measure of profitability in the industry - continue to be under stress. Jet fuel accounted for 26 per cent of the company's total expenditure last quarter, making it the single biggest cost.
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NT1825 Master	13-May-2020 07:44        NT1825 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Best to refer to few china based airlines and cathay.   xxadidasxx      ( Date: 13-May-2020 02:03) Posted: SIA value at 4+ Not even make sense How many ppl will travel When can people travel How long covid 19?will last Even when covid 19 slower down how many countries will have restriction How many plan are grounded and parking overseas parking fee? So many choice of airlines why must take SIA So many questions. And ???? Over it Counters that are making millions dollar drop in profit not even value at 4+
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uiop1223 Supreme	13-May-2020 07:08        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can short mah 😎 AhLiang      ( Date: 13-May-2020 05:50) Posted: How many rights will flood the market..? And after that, how many new shares will flood the market..? Avoid!
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SmallSmall Supreme	13-May-2020 06:49        SmallSmall About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone can determine how much is the MCB right worth based on last SIA price? Pls share your estimates. Thanks
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AhLiang Elite	13-May-2020 05:50        AhLiang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How many rights will flood the market..? And after that, how many new shares will flood the market..? Avoid!
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