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danger Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:53        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Laksaman cut loss already or HOLD ? Eagle is probably the one and only REIT or stock that lost nearly 50% of value just 4 - 5 mths after IPO listing
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m2d4pc Senior	05-Nov-2019 11:52        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	such cases of wash trade is very hard to charge if without evidence the only way to expose them so far is the parties involve testify in court that will only happen when there is internal fight one of the friends not happy and turn in to police otherwise noway to fine them cavdinsg      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:30) Posted: What uk1234 described (buying and and selling to friends or to yourself to artificially bring price down) is called " wash trading"   and is a common market manipulation technique that is of course illegal under MAS SGX regulation. I was just refering to uk1234 comment, don' t believe that is what is happening here. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:00) Posted: under what law can SGX charge them ??? please advise SGX
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laksaman57 Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:50        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is it very difficult for DBS to ask for the property seller's book price and evaluate against it's sale price to the reit ? Shouldn't this be part of its due diligence work ? m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:43) Posted: we can' t blame them if the price dive if they have done all due diligence and check and verify all documents bookrunners and underwriters,their duties are to make sure the IPO comply to all the law and accounting rules they can' t gurantee to investor the share price up or down dont blame them if tshare price drop   FrancisLim      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 09:41) Posted: Can rely that the issuer, financial adviser and the underwriters had done their DD. the joint bookrunners and underwriters, which comprise DBS Bank, Merrill Lynch (Singapore), UBS Singapore Branch, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank Singapore Branch, and Jefferies Singapore. DBS was also the sole financial adviser and issue manager for the IPO If otherwise, would be a big hit on the financial adviser and issue manager' s reputation.
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m2d4pc Senior	05-Nov-2019 11:43        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	we can' t blame them if the price dive if they have done all due diligence and check and verify all documents bookrunners and underwriters,their duties are to make sure the IPO comply to all the law and accounting rules they can' t gurantee to investor the share price up or down dont blame them if tshare price drop   FrancisLim      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 09:41) Posted: Can rely that the issuer, financial adviser and the underwriters had done their DD. the joint bookrunners and underwriters, which comprise DBS Bank, Merrill Lynch (Singapore), UBS Singapore Branch, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank Singapore Branch, and Jefferies Singapore. DBS was also the sole financial adviser and issue manager for the IPO If otherwise, would be a big hit on the financial adviser and issue manager' s reputation.
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laksaman57 Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:42        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Without feathers can't stay in the air. CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:40) Posted: When Eagle is light enough, it should be able to fly again slowly....  CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:27) Posted: Eagle becoming very trim
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laksaman57 Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:40        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	More documents on properties price bought by sponsor then sold to reit should be provided to DBS to improve their due diligence check. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:24) Posted: DBS is ok, can' t be blamed if DBS check all the submited documents if all the documents are done by approved Bankers, accountants, valuers, lawyers This is the reality of financial markets,  if the dishonest businessmen can afford to employ the best lawyers and bankers illegal can become legal   Goldfinger      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:14) Posted: Does DBS as the issue manager have any responsibility for their due diligence?
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:40        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When Eagle is light enough, it should be able to fly again slowly....  CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:27) Posted: Eagle becoming very trim. teeth53      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 10:57) Posted: Eagle eagerness looking for a place to land, tis Eagle is still flying in circle. Each circle it fly, drop alot.... Well is going soft, gojng 0.430 cents. :((
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Goldfinger Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:38        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Question is - was full disclosure made on the relationships as per the IPO prospectus. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:24) Posted: DBS is ok, can' t be blamed if DBS check all the submited documents if all the documents are done by approved Bankers, accountants, valuers, lawyers This is the reality of financial markets,  if the dishonest businessmen can afford to employ the best lawyers and bankers illegal can become legal   Goldfinger      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:14) Posted: Does DBS as the issue manager have any responsibility for their due diligence?
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FrancisLim Elite	05-Nov-2019 11:37        FrancisLim About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There is liabiility if there were neligence in due diligence as the case below from Bloomberg:   China Forestry Holdings Co.&rsquo s liquidators are suing  KPMG LLP  for more than HK$1.3 billion ($166 million), citing the auditor&rsquo s negligence when assisting in the company&rsquo s listing in Hong Kong. KPMG failed to detect during the pre-IPO audit that then-executives of China Forestry falsified the company&rsquo s plantation assets and revenue, according to information contained in a  judgment  related to the court proceedings. A Hong Kong court will hear the case in June 2021 for 10 weeks, the filing showed.
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laksaman57 Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:34        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not to charge but improve approval rule. Demand more info such as seller bought price and how valuators justify delta difference of sale price to the reit. CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:24) Posted: Nobody expected the subscription to be at such low 40% at IPO. How could SGX charge leh? You should have cut & sold on Thurs or Fri and buy back at present level...    laksaman57      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:15) Posted: SGX should investigate to better tune their rule for approval of reit ipo from overseas.
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cavdinsg Member	05-Nov-2019 11:30        cavdinsg About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What uk1234 described (buying and and selling to friends or to yourself to artificially bring price down) is called " wash trading"   and is a common market manipulation technique that is of course illegal under MAS SGX regulation. I was just refering to uk1234 comment, don' t believe that is what is happening here. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:00) Posted: under what law can SGX charge them ??? please advise SGX   m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 10:58) Posted: that is nothing illegal anybody can sell big blocks of shares to his friends when price drop to very low, it is not  price manipulation  when SSH buy back if he think is undervalue
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danger Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:27        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	FORGET ABOUT EAGLE .. BUY SEMBCORP INDUSTRIES ... P/E :10 ..... NAV : $3.87
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:27        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Eagle becoming very trim. teeth53      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 10:57) Posted: Eagle eagerness looking for a place to land, tis Eagle is still flying in circle. Each circle it fly, drop alot.... Well is going soft, gojng 0.430 cents. :((
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m2d4pc Senior	05-Nov-2019 11:24        m2d4pc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DBS is ok, can' t be blamed if DBS check all the submited documents if all the documents are done by approved Bankers, accountants, valuers, lawyers This is the reality of financial markets,  if the dishonest businessmen can afford to employ the best lawyers and bankers illegal can become legal   Goldfinger      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:14) Posted: Does DBS as the issue manager have any responsibility for their due diligence?   CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:13) Posted: Some married, some paired off at the marketplace. KeKe
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:24        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nobody expected the subscription to be at such low 40% at IPO. How could SGX charge leh? You should have cut & sold on Thurs or Fri and buy back at present level...    laksaman57      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:15) Posted: SGX should investigate to better tune their rule for approval of reit ipo from overseas. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:00) Posted: under what law can SGX charge them ??? please advise SGX
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laksaman57 Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:23        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Such rule change may include disclosure of price paid by properties owner versus price sold to reit. laksaman57      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:15) Posted: SGX should investigate to better tune their rule for approval of reit ipo from overseas. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:00) Posted: under what law can SGX charge them ??? please advise SGX
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laksaman57 Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:15        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	SGX should investigate to better tune their rule for approval of reit ipo from overseas. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:00) Posted: under what law can SGX charge them ??? please advise SGX   m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 10:58) Posted: that is nothing illegal anybody can sell big blocks of shares to his friends when price drop to very low, it is not  price manipulation  when SSH buy back if he think is undervalue
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Goldfinger Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:14        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Does DBS as the issue manager have any responsibility for their due diligence?   CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:13) Posted: Some married, some paired off at the marketplace. KeKe. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:07) Posted: it is difficult to analyse or guess what has happen to this stock now such drama never happen in SGX before can only wait and see now the answer will only be known in a few months tim
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	05-Nov-2019 11:13        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Some married, some paired off at the marketplace. KeKe. m2d4pc      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:07) Posted: it is difficult to analyse or guess what has happen to this stock now such drama never happen in SGX before can only wait and see now the answer will only be known in a few months time jamesng      ( Date: 05-Nov-2019 11:05) Posted: Can anyone confirmed the selling are all married deals or selling in open markets??? Wonder why married deals are at such a low price???
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shk363 Elite	05-Nov-2019 11:08        shk363 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	at this rate on my target price of 20 cents can hit by this week
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